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Do you believe Dimma had run his race at Tigerland ??
« on: May 25, 2023, 12:35:57 PM »
Hindsight is a wonderful thing - but something had been a little off at Richmond for a while .

So many narrow defeats. How many times have we snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

I’m still losing sleep over the West Coast defeat in 2021 , last years Elimination final . The Dreamtime defeat is just the cherry on top . Richmondy is not dead .

I’m pretty excited about the next chapter. Hopefully it might reinvigorate a few.

However , without doubt- the man is a legend and deserves his statue.
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Re: Do you believe Dimma had run his race at Tigerland ??
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2023, 01:15:58 PM »
Run his race and deserves a statue. Both are true IMO.

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Re: Do you believe Dimma had run his race at Tigerland ??
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2023, 01:21:23 PM »
Yes.  I believe so.

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Re: Do you believe Dimma had run his race at Tigerland ??
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2023, 02:37:50 PM »
Yes I think so.

And even if not, better a year early than a day late.

Would hate to see something like the Malthouse or Clarkson fiascos.

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Re: Do you believe Dimma had run his race at Tigerland ??
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2023, 03:15:26 PM »
I think his message wasn't carrying the necessary weight anymore, so yes, he was done, but I do think he should have stayed until the end of the year. He should have coached Cotch on his 300th and left the ground with Jack and Cotch in the last game. Gale made a point in one of his recent interviews that he has to think of John O'Rourke and stick around on his behalf. That to me is selfless.

I got the sense from Balme that his first reaction was shock and disappointment -- frustration even-- and then he realised the manner of the departure actually meant it was a good time to move on and get someone eager and modest in the joint again. Hardwick had acted like he was above the fray for a while -- and did so again during the announcement in my view -- and his players had picked that up too. Ill-discipline and self-regard has characterised us for a while now.

I personally don't buy the selfless tag being stitched onto this resignation. If I were the club I would market the event as selfless as well and use it however I could to reinforce the players' belief in their own culture, but I'd be shocked if there weren't some disgruntled opinions behind the scene. I'm sure the club are happy it's been so well-received in the media.

If it's all about the journey and not about the silverware, why did the journey come to an end as soon as silverware was considered unrealistic? Can't have it both ways.

To me it was a very controlling decision -- "I leave you." (He's good at leaving things overnight, I'll give him that.)

Unpopular opinion perhaps, and I could be way off the mark -- it could be undisclosed and urgent mental health pressures, for example. But all in all I'm pretty disappointed in this chain of events, and so on reflection, yeah, it's time to move on.

Okay, throw your tomatoes at me now.  :help

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Re: Do you believe Dimma had run his race at Tigerland ??
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2023, 04:05:03 PM »
I only hope there isn't a health related reason for Hardwick's departure.  Mental health is one thing, but general health is another. 
Otherwise, Hardwick has every right to call time on his terms.  Its tough on those left behind but the club is always bigger than the individual.    :gotigers
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Re: Do you believe Dimma had run his race at Tigerland ??
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2023, 06:35:05 PM »
He most definitely lost hid mojo toward the end there.
Players were full bore with him but he was too easily outpointed in the box and players started to lose on fundamentals - off the head:-
Norf last year - Zurhaar getting goal side too easily of a ruck contest
Lions final - allowing Daniher on goal line
Even Balta taking more than 30 secs
Goldie - leaving that player clear in d50

Bombers game plan on Sat night was basically Collingwood’s from r2, 2019. Amazed we didn’t close that down by now?

A legend of the game and our club with impeccable timing to exit when he had done it.
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Do you believe Dimma had run his race at Tigerland ??
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2023, 06:39:25 PM »
He most definitely lost hid mojo toward the end there.
Players were full bore with him but he was too easily outpointed in the box and players started to lose on fundamentals - off the head:-
Norf last year - Zurhaar getting goal side too easily of a ruck contest
Lions final - allowing Daniher on goal line
Even Balta taking more than 30 secs
Goldie - leaving that player clear in d50

Bombers game plan on Sat night was basically Collingwood’s from r2, 2019. Amazed we didn’t close that down by now?

A legend of the game and our club with impeccable timing to exit when he had done it.

Yep I was furious they didn't clamp down on that crap.

Should have won that game by 5 goals

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Re: Do you believe Dimma had run his race at Tigerland ??
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2023, 08:44:28 PM »
Being the bloke who took away so much pain with 2017 im not going to say a thing except to say id say he went too late.

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Re: Do you believe Dimma had run his race at Tigerland ??
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2023, 01:03:36 AM »
I think his message wasn't carrying the necessary weight anymore, so yes, he was done, but I do think he should have stayed until the end of the year. He should have coached Cotch on his 300th and left the ground with Jack and Cotch in the last game. Gale made a point in one of his recent interviews that he has to think of John O'Rourke and stick around on his behalf. That to me is selfless.

I got the sense from Balme that his first reaction was shock and disappointment -- frustration even-- and then he realised the manner of the departure actually meant it was a good time to move on and get someone eager and modest in the joint again. Hardwick had acted like he was above the fray for a while -- and did so again during the announcement in my view -- and his players had picked that up too. Ill-discipline and self-regard has characterised us for a while now.

I personally don't buy the selfless tag being stitched onto this resignation. If I were the club I would market the event as selfless as well and use it however I could to reinforce the players' belief in their own culture, but I'd be shocked if there weren't some disgruntled opinions behind the scene. I'm sure the club are happy it's been so well-received in the media.

If it's all about the journey and not about the silverware, why did the journey come to an end as soon as silverware was considered unrealistic? Can't have it both ways.

To me it was a very controlling decision -- "I leave you." (He's good at leaving things overnight, I'll give him that.)

Unpopular opinion perhaps, and I could be way off the mark -- it could be undisclosed and urgent mental health pressures, for example. But all in all I'm pretty disappointed in this chain of events, and so on reflection, yeah, it's time to move on.

Okay, throw your tomatoes at me now.  :help

I will be forever thankful and grateful that Dimma stayed after 2016 and gave us so much joy and memories that will never be forgotten.

That said, IMO his infidelity proved to be his downfall.
Not all players would have given too poos about it but I think some important players were greatly affected. Very disrespectful to have the “new chick” attend Brownlow night and the Jack Dyer medal presentation so soon. Nothing about that is selfless.

With all the talk during our success of vulnerability, connection and family.

We heard of the importance of mindfulness and the famous hardship, highlight, hero.

Senior players, and probably more significant, those players wives, were unwilling casualties of his most “selfish” act anyone at the club had seen before.

By his own admission his voice was done, he publicly stated that this year was “always” going to be his last.

My opinion is (post infidelity)………

1) that he knew that the players at this club weren’t “listening” 100% anymore or his words had lost credibility

2) he knows the only thing that gives him no baggage is a clean slate at another club

3) another club has already given him a job next year

4) leaving on his own terms early  gives him enough time away to stay out of the footy spotlight bubble and reset for next season rejuvenated.

5) Cotchin has been very silent (remember his wife’s tweet after discovery)



I think you are right on the money with your opinion about this being anything but a “selfless act”.

This decision has more to do with Dimma and his own personal ambitions.
The more I think about it he will be definitely coaching next season.

If he does I’ll be ok with it unless it’s the blue Cheats (would be a fitting choice for him though )
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Re: Do you believe Dimma had run his race at Tigerland ??
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2023, 08:54:57 AM »
Tigeritis is Kane Cornes right? I might check the Taranto thread for more evidence…
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Do you believe Dimma had run his race at Tigerland ??
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2023, 09:18:49 AM »
Oh please HRT, lol.

Plenty of what Tig is saying makes sense.

I'm partially convinced and have been for a while.

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Re: Do you believe Dimma had run his race at Tigerland ??
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2023, 06:28:10 PM »
Ahhh this old chestnut.

Instead of the obvious let’s look for the rumours. 3 flags in 4 years. Just like the Hawks and the Lions before that, we peaked and absolutely cashed in and as our stars got older and our draft picks got worse we slid. A tale as old as time.

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Re: Do you believe Dimma had run his race at Tigerland ??
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2023, 06:34:36 PM »
RJKTigeritis..... :shh
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Re: Do you believe Dimma had run his race at Tigerland ??
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2023, 06:46:51 PM »
I will always be grateful to Dimma  and never wanted him to go but I have a gut feel and won’t be surprised if he is the next Port coach.
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