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Re: 2024 Fixture
« Reply #45 on: November 17, 2023, 06:43:21 AM »
Playing Geelong at their piece of steaming dump of a ground simply cannot be justified.
2021 - 54800
2022 - 59300
2023 - 58100

vs Bombers
2021 - 15,500 (at steaming dumpster)
2023 -  23,200 (same venue)

They had a 54,500 crowd at G

So, this piece of crap oval is costing afl 30,000 fans each time they play there.
Don’t tell it’s because the stand is getting build - who the hell wants to go to the cattery?

Geelong are going to be rubbish next year so their fans won’t go either.

Does that mean the AFL will move their games to Punt Rd as a penalty for not being any good?
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: 2024 Fixture
« Reply #46 on: November 17, 2023, 07:15:23 AM »
I an not happy about the game in Geelong

But just on that the stands will be finished so capacity will be around 40k

And torch I have no idea what you mean with this 👇


15 matches to go to out of 23 and the price went up, disgrace. You can’t not say the Geelong match we can go to with their minimal tickets available.


What prices have gone up?
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Re: 2024 Fixture
« Reply #47 on: November 17, 2023, 10:12:36 AM »
Why do they keep saying we got two of the top 6?
Does it include finals as opposed to ladder positions?

Eg St Kilda

Regardless , we were stiff in who we drew for twice in the other bottom 5

West Coast, nup, plus the game against them is away
North, nup

Gave us the other 3.

Then we should have got two in middle bracket.
Nup, give us one and it’s the team that actually finished top bracket before finals.

One in the top bracket.
Nup, gave us two.

What a joke

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Re: 2024 Fixture
« Reply #48 on: November 17, 2023, 03:18:12 PM »
Play anyone anywhere

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Re: 2024 Fixture
« Reply #49 on: November 17, 2023, 03:34:16 PM »
Club-by-club AFL fixture report card: Who cashed in, who got dudded in 2024 draw

Max Laughton and Ben Waterworth
Fox Sports
November 17th, 2023


RICHMOND

Games played against...

Top eight: 11

Top four: 5

Bottom 10: 12

Bottom four: 6

Who they play twice: Carlton, Fremantle, Gold Coast Suns, Hawthorn, Port Adelaide, St Kilda

Bye weeks: Round 6, Round 15

Average percentage of double-up opponents: 100.4% (sixth-easiest)

Analysis:
 
Not as much primetime love for the Tigers to start the season. The only other primetime slot besides the traditional Round 1 Thursday clash against Carlton is a trip to Adelaide to face the Crows. However that doesn’t include the traditional Anzac Eve clash against Melbourne, which next year lands on a Wednesday night. The Tigers also have two five-day breaks early in the year: Between Opening Round and Round 1 then between Rounds 12 and 13. They’ll also host a match at Marvel Stadium – against Marvel Stadium tenants St Kilda – in Round 22, while they’ll travel to GMHBA Stadium to face Geelong for premiership points for the first time since 2017. Then there’s three trips to Adelaide (including Gather Round), two to Perth and two to Queensland. On the bright side, they have two hat-tricks of MCG clashes (Round 1-3 and 7-9) early in the year before five straight games in Melbourne to end the season – and three of those games are against bottom-four teams from 2023.

Grade:

C-

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https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-fixture-2024-clubbyclub-fixtures-analysis-report-card-grades-winners-and-losers-easiest-and-hardest-draws-latest-news/news-story/bf423b4d359e956159c838236de088f2

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Re: 2024 Fixture
« Reply #50 on: November 17, 2023, 03:37:03 PM »
Why do they keep saying we got two of the top 6?
Does it include finals as opposed to ladder positions?

Eg St Kilda
Yeah, they do. So, while the Saints finished sixth at the end of the H/A season, because they lost to GWS in the Elim Final, they dropped down to 7th overall.

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Re: 2024 Fixture
« Reply #52 on: November 18, 2023, 10:14:37 AM »
The company responsible for the fixture is owned by a Geelong supporter.


https://twitter.com/Jonesracing82/status/1725394324144415078

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1064360/meet-the-canadian-rick-stone-who-helps-build-your-clubs-afl-fixture-software-optimal-planning-solutions-josh-bowler

Long bow to draw there Mr OE  :lol

What I found interesting was the software is used by the EPL, MLB, NHL, NFL to name a few and it seems to work without the apparent bias that we get in the AFL.

That to me points to the HQ putting in the scenarios they want and getting the rest of the draw spat out by the software around it; while adhering to the CBA player requirements

It's comical
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Re: 2024 Fixture
« Reply #53 on: November 18, 2023, 03:18:25 PM »
its going to be a very long year.


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Re: 2024 Fixture
« Reply #54 on: November 18, 2023, 04:23:24 PM »
its going to be a very long year.

Don’t stress
We still have the other thread

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Re: 2024 Fixture
« Reply #56 on: November 18, 2023, 07:08:01 PM »
What I found interesting was the software is used by the EPL, MLB, NHL, NFL to name a few and it seems to work without the apparent bias that we get in the AFL.

That to me points to the HQ putting in the scenarios they want and getting the rest of the draw spat out by the software around it; while adhering to the CBA player requirements

It's comical
EPL - everyone plays each other twice (home & away) and each club has its own home ground. What the old VFL was like before ground rationalisation and nationalisation of the competition itself. No finals/play-offs either by the way in European soccer leagues.

American comps - teams are placed in conferences and divisions. So, the rival match-ups in each division are already set in place rather than having to fudge the fixture as the AFL does. IIRC, in the NFL, divisional rivals play each other twice (home & away) while the remaining 11 regular season games are played against teams outside your division once. So, you don't play against every franchise each year, and divisional rivals are competing directly against each other for top divisional spot which qualifies you for the play-offs rather than having one big ladder of 32 NFL teams.

I know many footy fans would hate adopting another Americanism, but if you wanted a fairer fixture, then with a Tassie team plus eventually a 20th side coming into the comp, you could split the league into four 5-club divisions where you play each divisional rival twice and the rest once (23 games).

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Vic Docklands: Geel, Haw, WB, StK, Norf
North-East Aus: Bris, GC, Syd, GWS, Tassie.
South-West Aus: Adel, Port, WCE, Freo, 3rd WA side.
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Re: 2024 Fixture
« Reply #57 on: November 18, 2023, 09:53:49 PM »
I say this every season the starting point and fairest way to set up the AFL draw when teams don't play one and another twice is to make sure in the first 17 rounds all teams play each other once, then you worry who plays who a 2nd time.

It is a joke that we don't play say the Pies until what is it round 20?

Same thing happened this year not playing certain sides until the final month of the season

I get it will always be compromised but at a minimum have each side play each once straight up
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Re: 2024 Fixture
« Reply #58 on: November 18, 2023, 10:44:32 PM »
Agree WP but the AFL will say it gives them more flexibility regarding scheduling.

It is a joke that we don't play say the Pies until what is it round 20?
Depending on how we go next year, that may end up a blessing in disguise given where both clubs are in their cycles - reigning premiers vs rebuilding mode  :-\. It sure was painful in 2010-11 sitting through Pies games :P.
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Re: 2024 Fixture
« Reply #59 on: November 23, 2023, 07:27:46 PM »
Our Prez in his latest report to members highlighted that this year the "AFLM draw had a reduced number of blockbuster home games". The Club then won't be happy with next year's fixture being a repeat on that front.