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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #840 on: November 18, 2024, 10:14:18 AM »
Allan disposal is the worry.

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #841 on: November 18, 2024, 11:04:45 AM »
... I've heard Yze is very keen on Allan as a player who can go through the middle and help out defensively, it helps cover some of our mids defensive flaws.

... the club seem very set on Lalor and Smillie with the 2 picks, however, we'll likely take Langford or Tauru if Roos  take FOS, Blues take Draper, Crows take Jagga and Dees take Smillie.

1. Lalor
7. Smillie
12. Armstrong
13. Allan
21. Dattoli
24. Faull
27. Dodson

https://x.com/Grockadoc/status/1858065250115018788

Allan will 💯 be taken at our pick10/11 picks
We flew over last week for a chat 😉

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #842 on: November 18, 2024, 02:31:07 PM »
We like Shanahan more than Armstrong

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #843 on: November 18, 2024, 05:37:12 PM »
https://x.com/caltwomey/status/1858391012219252901?s=46&t=7da_RTBaGiPwKBo1aKmuVg

P1 -> Lalor
P7 -> Smillie
P12 -> Lindsay
P14 -> Shanahan
P21 -> Dattoli
P23 -> M.Whitlock
P27 -> Alger
P28 -> Trainor

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #844 on: November 18, 2024, 07:14:32 PM »
We shouldn’t be drafting to necessarily impact in year 1. Give Smillie 4 or 5 pre seasons, remember Cripps was also considered slow - particularly early on in his career

Is he now considered quick lol?

In all seriousness pace is just 1 attribute of a player. Sure we’d like all our players to be speedy Gonzalez’s but that will never be the case. They just have to excel is other facets which offset their lack of pace and be complemented by other pacey players around them - problem is this is an area we are severely lacking in atm.

Endurance can 1000% be improved on provided the players are willing to put in the work.

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #845 on: November 18, 2024, 07:31:20 PM »
Cripps is still slow - why he gets done for htb so often.... :shh
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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #846 on: November 18, 2024, 08:28:32 PM »
Yeah u can’t teach speed. Your either quick or your not. In saying that there have been some great great players that are considered slow, so I wouldn’t rule someone out just based on that. Seems to be getting more and more important in modern footy though.

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #847 on: November 18, 2024, 10:25:18 PM »
Smillie has no aerial game so can't go through the forward line.

I hope Langford is available at 6 as he is strong in the air and can play forward and in the midfield.

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #848 on: November 18, 2024, 10:34:47 PM »
A quick thinker can be more effective than a quick runner ...   
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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #849 on: November 18, 2024, 10:55:22 PM »
I’m still hoping this make believe trade that saw us get norths pick 2 and first rounder next year for picks 6 and 11 ends up happening.

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #850 on: November 18, 2024, 11:52:15 PM »
How Richmond could strategise its “draft from heaven”

By Andrew Slevison
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18 Nov 2024


There remains some intrigue surrounding Richmond’s remarkable 2024 draft hand.

The Tigers, as has been well publicised, hold eight picks in the first 24 in this year’s draft which takes place on Wednesday and Thursday this week.

But will they use all eight? Or trade some out for future first-round picks?

AFL Media’s draft guru Cal Twomey, who labelled it a “draft from heaven”, suggests that the 2024 wooden spooners might look to move out some of their selections in order to bolster themselves for the 2025 draft too.

He also speculated on some of the names that could be called out by Richmond on Wednesday night in the first round in particular.

“It’s a draft from heaven really, isn’t it,” Twomey said on SEN Breakfast.

“We know they’ve got 1, 6, 10, 11, 18, 20, 23 and 24 - eight in the first 24.

“Do they take all of them to the draft and use them all? I think they’re going to get significant offers for the last four picks - 18, 20, 23 and 24.

“I think they use the first four as it stands. The beauty of this year’s draft for them is that there is all sorts of different types of players in those different picks.

“Early we’ll see them go for midfielders. They’ve been linked strongly to Sam Lalor and Finn O’Sullivan at the top of the pool. Josh Smillie as well, Bo Allan is also in the mix.

“Then there are some talls that will come into it. Jack Whitlock, Jobe Shanahan, Xavier Lindsay as well. Then at the back end we might see some small forwards in that group like Jesse Dattoli who is a chance.

“Pick 24 is the first pick of the second night and traditionally over a two-night draft there’s been a huge rush for those selections.

“So they could well turn Pick 24, which will become 28 after bids on the night, into a future first-round pick.

“They really can’t lose, the Tigers.”

Twomey and Riley Beveridge later alluded on AFL Media’s Gettable Draft Countdown show that it was down to two players for Richmond’s first pick - Sam Lalor or Finn O’Sullivan.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/11/17/how-richmond-could-strategise-its-draft-from-heaven

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #851 on: November 19, 2024, 12:09:38 AM »
https://x.com/caltwomey/status/1858391012219252901?s=46&t=7da_RTBaGiPwKBo1aKmuVg

P1 -> Lalor
P7 -> Smillie
P12 -> Lindsay
P14 -> Shanahan
P21 -> Dattoli
P23 -> M.Whitlock
P27 -> Alger
P28 -> Trainor

Cal Twomey's Phantom Draft: Top 30, late picks, whispers

By Callum Twomey
afl.com.au
18 Nov 2024


IT IS the perfect storm for one of the toughest Phantom Drafts yet.

A very even draft all the way through the first round, a year without an obvious No.1 pick and clubs with multiple selections galore – 12 clubs own the first 26 selections, making the game-playing and cat-and-mouse at high stakes. The possibilities of trading, too, has added an extra degree of unpredictability.

The uncertainty has clubs predicting surprises while not being sure who gets through to their respective selections and how it will shake out, other than believing the early stages of this year's draft has plenty of depth.

Here is AFL.com.au's Phantom Draft for 2024. It includes where bids on father-son and Academy players may come, meaning the draft order in this top-30 has changed from how the draft order will begin. On Tuesday evening, we will release a late mail Phantom Draft as well, ahead of the first round of the Telstra AFL Draft taking place on Wednesday night.



It is the most even race for the No.1 pick in some time but the Tigers are poised to snare the gamebreaker in the pack. Where previous years had standout contenders, all of the top candidates this season have been very evenly ranked. Lalor's season was hit by different injury problems, including groin, hip and a hamstring strain to finish the year and saw him sit out of the Rebels' ascent to the Coates Talent League Grand Final. He is a powerful, explosive midfielder who likes a fend-off, a high mark, kicks goals at important stages of games and has genuine leadership within him. He has had all of the top-five clubs – Richmond, North Melbourne, Adelaide, Carlton and Melbourne – be in touch for chats or interviews over the past week or so and is the favourite to be crowned No.1. 

If not him? It has really come down to two – Lalor or Finn O'Sullivan. The Tigers have still been keen on O'Sullivan and he is the other significant contender, having spoken with Richmond on Monday, but Lalor looks the guy.

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2. North - Finn O'Sullivan
3. Carl - Jagga Smith
4. Adel - Sid Draper
5. Bris - Levi Ashcroft (bid)
6. Melb - Harvey Langford



Smillie has been linked to the Tigers by rivals for some time. Big-bodied, 195cm midfield bulls don't come around often and Smillie was the dominant midfielder in the first half of the season with the Eastern Ranges. He didn't have as many standout games in the second half of his campaign but remains a big ball-getter who uses it well by foot. He can play forward and tested well for his running at the Telstra AFL Draft Combine in the 2km time trial.

If not him? The Tigers have travelled to see West Australian Bo Allan in recent days and they could look to grab him here in case they don't see him getting through to their picks at 10 and 11. That is seen as a real option, as is Tobie Travaglia at this pick, which hasn't been mentioned much but is one to watch. If Alix Tauru comes into the top group then one of the midfield talents – such as Sid Draper, Jagga Smith or Harvey Langford – could also squeeze out to here and give Richmond a tough decision to make.

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8. St Kilda - Tobie Travaglia
9. Gold Coast - Leo Lombard (bid)
10. St Kilda - Alix Tauru
11. Melbourne - Bo Allan



Lindsay established himself as a first-rounder at the back end of the national carnival, when he picked up 30 disposals for Vic Country against Vic Metro and locked in his All-Australian guernsey. He took that form into the back end of Gippsland Power's season, storming home with a run of consistency and taking out the Morrish medal as the competition's best player. He is a left-footed midfielder who can play anywhere around the centre square – or inside it – and has a piercing kick that complements their other mix.

If not him? In terms of the other midfielders in the group, there's a possibility the Tigers try their luck of getting Josh Smillie through to these picks. Otherwise, Bo Allan is a real contender if available, while Murphy Reid and Joe Berry have also attracted interest. With back-to-back picks they could flip it and take a tall here. 

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13. Essendon - Isaac Kako (bid)



Clubs expect Richmond to start looking to diversify its group of picks with one of the talls using its third and/or fourth selections, and Shanahan is right in the mix. The straight-kicking key forward pushed his stocks further up draft boards during a run of impressive games for the Bombers' VFL side late in the season. He was named in the Coates Talent League team of the year and produced some excellent games at under-18 level, including a three-goal outing for the Allies against Vic Country at the national carnival. A super straight kick for goal, Shanahan doesn't need many chances to make his impact inside-50.

If not him? Harry Armstrong has been long linked to the Tigers and it will be a tight call – as it will for Jack Whitlock around this range as well if the club goes for a key position prospect here. If it's a small, the Tigers have considered taking Joe Berry here given he likely isn't available at their next pick. 

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15. West Coast - Murphy Reid
16. Port Adelaide - Harry Armstrong
17. Fremantle - Joe Berry
18. GWS Giants - Jack Whitlock
19. GWS Giants - Taj Hotton
20. W.Bulldogs - Cooper Hynes



Richmond met with Dattoli last week and if the Tigers want to add a small forward/midfielder to their mix then he might be the guy. Dattoli loves the big moments and performed well in those games late in the Northern Knights' season. He's a small forward who can also be very impactful around the midfield, where his toughness, game sense and overhead marking give him a different package of weapons. He averaged 23 disposals (11 contested) and nearly two goals a game for the Knights and tends to drill his chances inside-50.

If not him? At this stage the Tigers are expected to start getting some seriously tempting offers for picks from rivals so it will be fascinating to see if they hold or move any into the future to stagger their rebuild. They could continue looking at talls, and don't be shocked if Harry Armstrong actually got through to the Tigers’ selection here. Jobe Shanahan and the Whitlocks will also be in the mix depending on how the earlier take on talls goes. They like Jasper Alger as a creative forward as well as Harry Oliver as an uncompromising half-back and will be right in the mix for Taj Hotton if he's there.

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22. Sydney - Jonty Faull



Whitlock showed he can go forward and do well, having kicked 27 goals for the Murray Bushrangers, but will be selected as a key defender who can shift forward rather than the other way around. His development across the season gave clubs a good insight into what can be to come for the 18-year-old, who is athletic and can get around the ground alongside the key forwards he will be opposing. His marking is a strength as both a defender and forward and he is trusted with the ball in hand.

If not him? One of the other talls may be preferred and still available, such as Jobe Shanahan, Jack Whitlock or Jonty Faull. Plus, the Tigers have looked closely at Thomas Sims and Harry O'Farrell, so may consider either under a certain circumstance.

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24. GWS Giants - Harry Oliver
25. Brisbane - Sam Marshall (bid)
26. Sydney - Oliver Hannaford



Alger is capable of some exciting things inside-50, regularly finding separation on the lead and being an aerial presence despite his medium forward size. He is good at ground level too and can create something from nothing. Alger showed some of those tricks for Vic Country at the under-18 carnival and with the Oakleigh Chargers but missed the end of their season with a finger injury.

If not him? Richmond is a club that has looked at Cooper Hynes and he will be a chance to be still up for grabs. Would the Tigers look early at one of their own in VFL prospect Sam Davidson? He has a lot of clubs keen on him in the back half of the draft but at this point they don't have any selections there.



Trainor started the year as a top-five candidate but is not among the group of 20 players invited to the first night of the draft so is not expected to feature early on. The rebounding, attacking, intercept defender is a backman who likes the ball in his hands – he goes for his marks, he kicks well and averaged 20 disposals and six marks for Vic Metro at the carnival, having also gone forward to kick the title-sealing goal with the last kick of the championships. 

If not him? This will be the first pick of night two, which has traditionally become a highly sought after selection between the first and second rounds as clubs spend the day mulling trade options. So it could well be in another club's hands if the Tigers have used the rest of their allotment. Should they stay, ruckman Alex Dodson has been linked here if the club wants to add a young big man to its draft haul.

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29. W.Bulldogs - Christian Moraes
30. West Coast - Ned Bowman


CLUB-BY-CLUB WHISPERS AFTER PICK 30



Draft picks: 1, 6, 10, 11, 18, 20, 23, 24 (likely to use seven or eight selections)

It's the draft of the Tiger and the thrill of the night on Wednesday, with Richmond expected to use the majority – if not all – of its allocated top-30 picks. The Tigers have fielded trade offers but won't be packaging to go up to pick No.2 and are expected to take at least their first four picks to the draft as it stands. For the last four – 18, 20, 23 and then 24 to open night two – clubs are expected to throw future first-round picks at the Tigers as part of very attractive pick packages. The No.24 pick that will be the first of the second day will also get plenty of interest as that spot has become in-demand since the draft became a two-night event. Currently Richmond has 27 senior-list players, so using all eight of their picks in the first round is a chance, but they will also upgrade rookie Tylar Young to the senior list. They've recently done some work on back-end draft prospects, indicating if they do make a trade they could grab a late pick and eye using a selection deep into night two.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1256531/cal-twomeys-2024-phantom-draft-top-30-late-picks-whispers

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #852 on: November 19, 2024, 12:11:40 AM »
AFL Draft Whispers

Jack Jovanovski
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November 18th, 2024


Richmond is preparing to take seven first-round selections — and the first pick of the second round — into Wednesday’s count: Nos. 1, 6, 10, 11, 18, 20, 23 and 24.

Vic Country star midfielder-forward Sam Lalor is firming as the No. 1 selection to the Tigers, but there is less certainty about what they will do with their six other first-rounders — having been floated in Pick 6 trade-up talks.

The Tigers’ Victorian recruiting manager Rhy Gieschen previewed the count from a Richmond point of view.

“We’re super excited about (our haul). It’s a really unique position to have eight picks within the first round and the first pick of the second round,” Gieschen told Richmond Media.

“We’re really excited (about the level of talent). We’ve been tracking these players since their under-16 year, and we’ve always known that it’s a strong draft.

“It’s been well-documented that there are some quality midfielders in this year’s draft.

“But probably more recently, there (have) been some talls that have emerged — which we’re excited about — and some rucks and some outside players, so I think every club would be excited about the draft.

“Particularly at the top end where we’re picking, I think there’s something for everyone. It’s been a difficult job, narrowing it down, it is quite even — but we feel really well-placed now, and we’ve done a fair bit of planning and organising to get our list and our order to where it is now.”

Standout Sandringham Dragons key forward Harry Armstrong could well be one of the talls Gieschen speaks of. Armstrong booted 27.10 in Talent League action this year, including five four-goal hauls.

Gieschen also highlighted the level of character of the 2024 pool.

“One thing that stood out throughout the interview phase is not only are they great footballers, but there are some really good characters in this year’s draft,” he said.

“We’ve been amazed and blown away by the level of character — when we go to the home interviews ... they’ve all been fantastic.

“It’s a strong crop of players, but we also think we can bring in some future leaders of the club and some people that will contribute really strongly to our on and off-field culture.”

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2024-north-melbourne-kangaroos-pick-2-trade-melbourne-demons-strategy-will-thursfield-and-jason-taylor-comments-latest-news-and-rumours/news-story/618da97556d2598294a3f696300c020d

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
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