Pass mark for 2025?

[mat073]

Funny the things you remember.

First time GWS beat Sydney …there was a little excitement on here but someone wiser than me commented that it was scary . A baby Frankenstein learning to walk .

Obviously we have some tough times ahead but my hope after this years draft haul , in addition to what we might acquire in the draft next year - we might be viewed by opposition supporters as a “Baby Frankenstein “ .

[Diocletian]

Yes can't wait to see this list reach the heights of getting belted in a grand final and multiple embarrassing chokes in other finals.

[cub]

Last year was just horrible

Actually really looking forward to this year, what that brings who knows but just a bit excited about a new start

[Willy]

Last year was just horrible

Actually really looking forward to this year, what that brings who knows but just a bit excited about a new start

Agree.

[Go Richo 12]

Pass mark is 2nd last and Nth finish last.

[WilliamPowell]

Last year was just horrible

Actually really looking forward to this year, what that brings who knows but just a bit excited about a new start

Agree.

Ditto

[crackertiger]

Pass mark for me is to win some Ruck contests resulting in decent or at a minimum competitive clearance numbers. Hit outs to advantage that go to our players. 🤫

The massive Elephant in the room we are turning a blind eye to.....

[Tiger Khosh]

Pass mark is 2nd last and Nth finish last.

That’s not a pass mark. That would be like hitting the jackpot.

[lamington]

Going into specifics a pass mark for me is gibcus actually playing a whole season

[one-eyed]

Richmond will win the wooden spoon, and by some distance

Max Laughton
Fox Sports
December 24th, 2024

The Tigers accelerated their rebuild by finishing 18th in 2024, but you could certainly make the case they weren’t the worst list last season; the Kangaroos were pretty terrible too, and the Eagles were horrendous at times, with injuries limiting any chance of a good first campaign for Adem Yze. We suspect availability will be a problem in 2025 as well, but more because you can’t use players who aren’t on your list any more. Trading aggressively, and taking a million picks in the draft, should help Richmond get better in a few years’ time but they will cop plenty of losses in the interim. Everyone expects the Tigers will be bad but we don’t think the footy community is quite ready for how ugly things could get. The rebuild coach doesn’t usually survive to see the success, so Yze has to hope there’s a lot of patience at Punt Road.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2025-25-bold-predictions-for-2025-finals-and-top-eight-tips-carlton-premiers-hawthorn-grand-final-brownlow-medal-analysis/news-story/b2392b4c50ad6f95197fb4ac6ce6cbc4

[yandb]

A pass mark will be the development of the younger players, wins will be a bonus.

[mightytiges]

Development of the cubs as yandb says plus a focus as a team on the defensive aspects of the game including proper tackling technique.

[one-eyed]

Predicted AFL ladder

Max Laughton
Fox Sports
March 3rd, 2025

Whereas Richmond should be an especially bad team. In fact, we are more confident putting them 18th than we are putting any team in any position on this predicted ladder.

We’re not saying they’re going winless, because kinda like West Coast at their absolute lowest ebb, there’s enough established talent still here (when healthy) to compete at least a few times this season. Remember, they had a shocking run with injury in 2024 which made them look even worse than they truly were.

And teams just don’t go winless in modern footy - they win a random one against a good team that had a shocking day, or pinch some close ones. It’s really, really hard to be THAT bad.

But they have lost over 1000 games of experience for two consecutive off-seasons. Nobody is calling this tanking, because it’s not like they’re trying to lose games during the season itself -they are simply pushing as hard as they can on the accelerator.

Taking six first-round picks, plus the first pick of the second round, is a genuinely mind-boggling haul, especially if the 2024 draft is as good as all the recruiters think it was. And remember, they traded their seventh first-round pick to North for the Roos’ future first! It would be a surprise if Richmond didn’t have two top-five picks in the 2025 draft.

The only points of comparison we have are expansion teams, and expansion teams are always awful. The Tigers are basically an expansion side that somehow convinced more veterans than usual to play for them.

It would be remarkable if they avoided a bottom two finish. And really, it’d be weird if they didn’t win the wooden spoon. They are clearly a weaker list going into 2025 than they were going into 2024, and they won two games last year.

A much gentler run with injuries could mean they actually win a couple more games, of course, but that’s just the randomness of footy. On paper, they are clearly 18th of 18, and the only person who should be slightly concerned about that is Adem Yze - because it’s very hard to be the rebuild coach.

He will get support and patience from a club that’s much stronger than it was the last time it needed to build back up... it’s just that losing is tough, even when you’re not just expecting it, but accepting it.

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[camboon]

Development development and development plus the right culture , compete and never give up

[georgies31]

Forget about 4qtrs will be typical of a rebuilding side a good half or qtr here and there or patches and then drop-off.  All about good signs from the cubs and identifying a game style