Taj Hotton [merged]

[Damo]

What a ridiculous comparison. Hotton has played like 3 or 4 games for the lowest scoring team in the league. Reid (who is a gun) has played all year for the team currently in 5th.

Absurd comparison.
One had a full pre-season and has played all year.
The other is coming off an ACL and no pre-season, with 3 games under his belt.

Anyway , apparently goal assists is the new stat that is the be all and end all.

Jack Ross is our leader in that category this year.

Give the man a raise.

Richards and bont are 1 and 2. Dangerfield. Butters. McCluggage... Not far behind. Not a bad group of players.  the stat has some value.

I'm not potting hotton he has shown a lot but the 3 will naturally be compared over the coming years.

Why will they naturally be compared ?
Seems utterly ridiculous to me

Isaac Kako would seem the logical one to compare with Reid, who was taken the pick after Hotton and is a similar style of player.

And if being real fair dinkum, what about Berry and Allen, who were taken right before him.

[Andyy]

What a ridiculous comparison. Hotton has played like 3 or 4 games for the lowest scoring team in the league. Reid (who is a gun) has played all year for the team currently in 5th.

Absurd comparison.
One had a full pre-season and has played all year.
The other is coming off an ACL and no pre-season, with 3 games under his belt.

Anyway , apparently goal assists is the new stat that is the be all and end all.

Jack Ross is our leader in that category this year.

Give the man a raise.

Richards and bont are 1 and 2. Dangerfield. Butters. McCluggage... Not far behind. Not a bad group of players.  the stat has some value.

I'm not potting hotton he has shown a lot but the 3 will naturally be compared over the coming years.

Why will they naturally be compared ?
Seems utterly ridiculous to me

Isaac Kako would seem the logical one to compare with Reid, who was taken the pick after Hotton and is a similar style of player.

And if being real fair dinkum, what about Berry and Allen, who were taken right before him.

They won't. It's utter garbage.

Hindsight is 20-20 and we're not a full season in. Reid might break his neck and never play again.

We could have had Fyfe!

[Francois Jackson]

Or we could have missed  out on recruiting Jordy McMahon 

[ajGreen]

What a ridiculous comparison. Hotton has played like 3 or 4 games for the lowest scoring team in the league. Reid (who is a gun) has played all year for the team currently in 5th.

Absurd comparison.
One had a full pre-season and has played all year.
The other is coming off an ACL and no pre-season, with 3 games under his belt.

Anyway , apparently goal assists is the new stat that is the be all and end all.

Jack Ross is our leader in that category this year.

Give the man a raise.

Richards and bont are 1 and 2. Dangerfield. Butters. McCluggage... Not far behind. Not a bad group of players.  the stat has some value.

I'm not potting hotton he has shown a lot but the 3 will naturally be compared over the coming years.

Why will they naturally be compared ?
Seems utterly ridiculous to me

Isaac Kako would seem the logical one to compare with Reid, who was taken the pick after Hotton and is a similar style of player.

And if being real fair dinkum, what about Berry and Allen, who were taken right before him.

For a number of reasons. Richmond has 7 good picks. Anyone half decent will inevitably be discussed in comparison to the Richmond players.

He was within a few draft places of faull and hotton.

Kako will likely not be directly compared in the same way as he was always going to the efc

[Assange Tiger 😎]

You're the only one doing it though. No one else.

It's not Tambling/Franklin ffs

[ajGreen]

What a ridiculous comparison. Hotton has played like 3 or 4 games for the lowest scoring team in the league. Reid (who is a gun) has played all year for the team currently in 5th.

Absurd comparison.
One had a full pre-season and has played all year.
The other is coming off an ACL and no pre-season, with 3 games under his belt.

Anyway , apparently goal assists is the new stat that is the be all and end all.

Jack Ross is our leader in that category this year.

Give the man a raise.

Richards and bont are 1 and 2. Dangerfield. Butters. McCluggage... Not far behind. Not a bad group of players.  the stat has some value.

I'm not potting hotton he has shown a lot but the 3 will naturally be compared over the coming years.

Why will they naturally be compared ?
Seems utterly ridiculous to me

Isaac Kako would seem the logical one to compare with Reid, who was taken the pick after Hotton and is a similar style of player.

And if being real fair dinkum, what about Berry and Allen, who were taken right before him.

They won't. It's utter garbage.

Hindsight is 20-20 and we're not a full season in. Reid might break his neck and never play again.

We could have had Fyfe!

It shall. Did Hodge ball judd ever get talked about?

What about tambling and Franklin.

Everyone taken before NWM is already in the spotlight

[ajGreen]

You're the only one doing it though. No one else.

It's not Tambling/Franklin ffs

It's not too far off Scully Martin etc.

If Reid doesn't break his neck and continues to light it up it'll be a common talking point.

Ditto Whitlock v whoever the Richmond pick is with the north 1st

Jobe Shanahan is another

[ajGreen]

Or we could have missed  out on recruiting Jordy McMahon 

Or Cripps / Ben Lennon

[Tiger Khosh]

Geez man take a break. Between this and your Vlastuin tirade, you’re swimming well and truly against the current.

Players can be compared once the sample size is big enough, say in 3-5 years time. After 1 season is ridiculous and you are the only one harping on about it.

And did you really bring up the Whitlock trade? We could end up drafting the duddiest dud who ever dudded and I’d still make that trade 1 million times out of 1 million. We gave up pick 27 for what will end up being pick 2-3, cmon now.

[Hard Roar Tiger]

We gave up picks 19 (this year) and 27 last year to get pick which is currently 2 this year.
One way to look at this deal is through draft points which are used to secure academy picks, father/son etc etc - in that example our current pick from norf is worth 2481 points. When you combine our pick from last year’s and the pick this year, combined it’s worth 1254 points.
The difference in points is basically pick 11.
So, as a stand alone trade, this is a slam dunk.
In a shallow draft where top 5 picks are going to be even more precious, the deal only elevates in its value.

Executing the deal - the drafting itself - is a completely separate topic and we will see how this plays out in the years to come.

[ajGreen]

Geez man take a break. Between this and your Vlastuin tirade, you’re swimming well and truly against the current.

Players can be compared once the sample size is big enough, say in 3-5 years time. After 1 season is ridiculous and you are the only one harping on about it.

And did you really bring up the Whitlock trade? We could end up drafting the duddiest dud who ever dudded and I’d still make that trade 1 million times out of 1 million. We gave up pick 27 for what will end up being pick 2-3, cmon now.

That's how you become a strong swimmer.

Btw I didn't say they should be compared currently. I merely agreed with damo. I would keep faull for Reid but be happy to do him for hotton. The later prob 90%+ of football followers would agree with. So maybe it's you going against the flow?

North also took richmonds 2nd rounder. It's early days but it was a good trade obviously. Hopefully the pick they right guy.

As for Vlastuin I stand by that comment. There will be talented players 15-30 and some of them will turn out very handy. Richmond kicking zero goals and two for the game for mine is pretty solid evidence. 'leadership and culture' are pretty overrated in comparison to young talent on the list. More so when rebuilding.

He is a champion but at 32 next season he isn't going to add much more to a list in this position.

[Tiger Khosh]

Your entire post which started this was “Faull and Hotton would want to be good” together with Reid’s incorrect goals and assists total this season. Sounds like a comparison to me alluding to the fact that we made a mistake and should have taken Reid ahead. No need to back down from it now, that’s clearly what you were implying and given 1 has played like 4 games for the lowest scoring team in the league while the other has played all season for a finals team it’s a ridiculous comparison.

Also if you think his Vlastuins leadership contribution is directly correlated to our win/loss and total goals scored in a game I don’t know what to tell you. By that logic we should be trading every single 1 of our players aged in their late 20s or older because hey they won’t be around for the next premiership so what does it matter.