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Re: 2025 AFL Draft
« Reply #240 on: August 07, 2025, 09:49:23 AM »
Kellaway not in the top 40 in today's HS rankings.

Some seemingly talented guys from 13-30 , if the tigers can find another draft pick in that region

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Re: 2025 AFL Draft
« Reply #241 on: August 07, 2025, 03:38:53 PM »
Or  trade a future 2nd or 3rd rounder
"The money might have been better. But, at the end of the day, Richmond showed faith in me. It's only fair that now we're 18th on the ladder, I show the faith back in the club and do everything I can to put them in front. In the end, I'm stoked I made the decision to stay. I f***ing love this club”

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Re: 2025 AFL Draft
« Reply #242 on: August 07, 2025, 04:54:49 PM »
It’s been reported that the contract being offered to Draper as well as his current contract at the bombers doesn’t qualify for band 1 compo so I don’t think it matters but better to finish below them just in case lol.

And damo makes a good point about starcevich. Let’s hope the eagles land him so it dilutes their compo to a second rounder.

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Re: 2025 AFL Draft
« Reply #243 on: August 07, 2025, 04:58:09 PM »
You are all forgetting one factor
The eagles are keen to sign Starcevich

If that happens it affects the free agency compo

This is brilliant
"The money might have been better. But, at the end of the day, Richmond showed faith in me. It's only fair that now we're 18th on the ladder, I show the faith back in the club and do everything I can to put them in front. In the end, I'm stoked I made the decision to stay. I f***ing love this club”

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Re: 2025 AFL Draft
« Reply #244 on: August 07, 2025, 07:07:32 PM »
It’s been reported that the contract being offered to Draper as well as his current contract at the bombers doesn’t qualify for band 1 compo so I don’t think it matters but better to finish below them just in case lol.

And damo makes a good point about starcevich. Let’s hope the eagles land him so it dilutes their compo to a second rounder.

Bombers won't let him go unless it's B1 compo

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Re: 2025 AFL Draft
« Reply #245 on: August 07, 2025, 07:38:49 PM »
It’s been reported that the contract being offered to Draper as well as his current contract at the bombers doesn’t qualify for band 1 compo so I don’t think it matters but better to finish below them just in case lol.

And damo makes a good point about starcevich. Let’s hope the eagles land him so it dilutes their compo to a second rounder.

Bombers won't let him go unless it's B1 compo

He is unrestricted so bombers don’t have the power to match contract and force a trade.

Allen is restricted, that’s the difference.

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Re: 2025 AFL Draft
« Reply #246 on: August 07, 2025, 08:13:16 PM »
It’s been reported that the contract being offered to Draper as well as his current contract at the bombers doesn’t qualify for band 1 compo so I don’t think it matters but better to finish below them just in case lol.

And damo makes a good point about starcevich. Let’s hope the eagles land him so it dilutes their compo to a second rounder.

Bombers won't let him go unless it's B1 compo

He is unrestricted so bombers don’t have the power to match contract and force a trade.

Allen is restricted, that’s the difference.

Draper will do what all the decent players do - request adequate compensation for his club, so he'll be looking for a contract that results in band 1 given how big the discrepancy between that and band 2 will be.

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Re: 2025 AFL Draft
« Reply #247 on: August 07, 2025, 08:32:43 PM »
Lol of course he would want that, because the only way he they get it is by giving him more $$$ and more years. He is negotiating for himself and whatever that lands on is what Essendon will get, there is no altering motive of getting the bombers a good deal, it is 1 in the same purpose. That sort of thinking can not works in trade scenarios.

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Re: 2025 AFL Draft
« Reply #248 on: August 07, 2025, 09:15:40 PM »
Lol of course he would want that, because the only way he they get it is by giving him more $$$ and more years. He is negotiating for himself and whatever that lands on is what Essendon will get, there is no altering motive of getting the bombers a good deal, it is 1 in the same purpose. That sort of thinking can not works in trade scenarios.

There's the deal he wants, the clubs want, market value etc.

The WankFL isn't transparent about the formula but my understanding is that clubs can enquire about what comp a deal will get.

When you're in that tax bracket making another $100k/year is going to net you $55k minus whatever your agent is being paid, so if you have to move states it may not be worth it, although for a guy like Draper he might be open to a return to SA for less money/year if that's what he wants.

So no, it's not always about that last dollar at the end of the day.

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Re: 2025 AFL Draft
« Reply #249 on: August 07, 2025, 10:14:44 PM »
I really think you’re failing to grasp the major difference between a restricted and an unrestricted free agent.

Oscar Allen is a restricted FA. The Lions make him a contract offer. The eagles check with the AFL what level of compensation they will get based on that contract. If the AFL come back and say band 1, done deal, all parties are happy. If the AFL come back and say band 2 the eagles say F that we will match that contract and force a trade to which the Lions say F that we’ll just increase the $$$ and or years to get the eagles band 1 so they don’t have to give up any players or draft assets.

Sam Draper is an unrestricted free agent. The crows/lions make him a contract offer. The bombers check with the AFL what level of compensation they will get based on that contract. If the AFL come back and say band 2, there’s not a damn thing the bombers can do about it. They can’t threaten to match it to force a trade, they have no leverage on the chasing clubs to get them to do anything.

The best chance the bombers have of getting band 1 compo for Draper is if a bidding war erupts between the chasing teams however I can’t see two of the top4 teams in the comp offering that high a salary for an average player especially the lions who will already be giving up a chunk for Allen.

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Re: 2025 AFL Draft
« Reply #250 on: August 08, 2025, 07:22:27 AM »
What you are all assuming is that this competition is built on some semblance of integrity. Which ain’t the case.
If Draper leaves, which he will, Bumbles the clown club will get a 1st rounder because the afl need them to start winning soon.
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Re: 2025 AFL Draft
« Reply #251 on: August 08, 2025, 08:45:26 AM »
What you are all assuming is that this competition is built on some semblance of integrity. Which ain’t the case.
If Draper leaves, which he will, Bumbles the clown club will get a 1st rounder because the afl need them to start winning soon.

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Re: 2025 AFL Draft
« Reply #252 on: August 08, 2025, 08:57:48 AM »
What you are all assuming is that this competition is built on some semblance of integrity. Which ain’t the case.
If Draper leaves, which he will, Bumbles the clown club will get a 1st rounder because the afl need them to start winning soon.

voice of reason  :thumbsup

the old herbs and spices mix from the wokefl will come to the fore.

I’m not sure they like Essendon much

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Re: 2025 AFL Draft
« Reply #253 on: August 08, 2025, 09:31:43 AM »
I really think you’re failing to grasp the major difference between a restricted and an unrestricted free agent.

Oscar Allen is a restricted FA. The Lions make him a contract offer. The eagles check with the AFL what level of compensation they will get based on that contract. If the AFL come back and say band 1, done deal, all parties are happy. If the AFL come back and say band 2 the eagles say F that we will match that contract and force a trade to which the Lions say F that we’ll just increase the $$$ and or years to get the eagles band 1 so they don’t have to give up any players or draft assets.

Sam Draper is an unrestricted free agent. The crows/lions make him a contract offer. The bombers check with the AFL what level of compensation they will get based on that contract. If the AFL come back and say band 2, there’s not a damn thing the bombers can do about it. They can’t threaten to match it to force a trade, they have no leverage on the chasing clubs to get them to do anything.

The best chance the bombers have of getting band 1 compo for Draper is if a bidding war erupts between the chasing teams however I can’t see two of the top4 teams in the comp offering that high a salary for an average player especially the lions who will already be giving up a chunk for Allen.

Yep, so then you're ultimately making an assessment of how badly Draper wants to leave.

The different in offers may be minimal or zero - from what I hear, Essendon has increased their offer to match rival offers.

He may not want to go that badly.

If the compo ends up band 1, Essendon may well ask him to take it and go to help their rebuild.

Lots of factors and it's not just money. Restricted or not.

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Re: 2025 AFL Draft
« Reply #254 on: August 08, 2025, 11:49:10 AM »
You’re right in the sense that he may ask bombers to match the offer and if so he’d agree to stay to which they may do if it’s band 2 compo but not be so inclined to do so if it’s band 1 compo, but yeah like I said there isn’t really a back and forth between clubs changing contract terms in order to manipulate the compo because there is no reason for the clubs attracting the player to do so.