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Re: Noah Balta charged with assault
« Reply #60 on: January 13, 2025, 10:26:39 AM »
If RFC did not act in this world of where any social issue and social engineering is seen as more important than football, then the AFL with the media camp followers assisting will issue the penalty, which would likely be a lot more severe.
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Re: Noah Balta charged with assault
« Reply #61 on: January 13, 2025, 11:46:31 AM »
What happened to innocent until proven otherwise?
I think it’s time clubs called the AFL’s bluff but standing firm on player rights until these things play out.
Charge him and have the trial. Let the thing play out.
Reading between the lines here, but it seems to me like Balta has come clean and admitted he did something wrong and the club gets the penalty out of the way ASAP instead of having it dragged out.

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Exactly.

Club isn't being woke.

They're just being proactive and clearly know more than we do.

If they know something, just declare it. It’s woke to just suspend him with being more specific. FFS, if he’s done the wrong thing, declare it an announce he plans to plead guilty. Otherwise, it’s just jumping at shadows which is weak, insipid leadership

Why the stuff would they declare what they know when there's a police investigation in process?

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Re: Noah Balta charged with assault
« Reply #62 on: January 13, 2025, 03:05:33 PM »
There is a reason why "details" of what allegedly took place are not out in public domain....

Talk about prejudicing someone's case  ::)

This is an internet forum.
As such there is a lot of gossip about incidents, much of it either plain wrong or misinformed.
"not out in the public domain". I would bet that every resident of Mulwala/Yarrawonga knows the full story of what happened, particularly since it has been reported in the national media.
I presume the court case will include CCTV footage and other evidence, notably from witnesses.
What I have posted to this forum will NOT be part of the case and since it will not be a jury case I don't think there is any relevant "prejudice".

There  have  been multiple postings here that voiced the idea that Balta and his brother were totally innocent and had been attacked.
That is prejudice based on the hope that one of our players was not at fault and nothing else.
As a result I posted what I believe to be the truth based on an informed source.

Your attack on me for my "prejudice" seems to me to be the pot calling the kettle black.

You would loose that bet.

Are they loose in Mulwala?
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Re: Noah Balta charged with assault
« Reply #63 on: January 13, 2025, 03:39:59 PM »
What happened to innocent until proven otherwise?
I think it’s time clubs called the AFL’s bluff but standing firm on player rights until these things play out.
Charge him and have the trial. Let the thing play out.
Reading between the lines here, but it seems to me like Balta has come clean and admitted he did something wrong and the club gets the penalty out of the way ASAP instead of having it dragged out.

Yahuh

Exactly.

Club isn't being woke.

They're just being proactive and clearly know more than we do.

If they know something, just declare it. It’s woke to just suspend him with being more specific. FFS, if he’s done the wrong thing, declare it an announce he plans to plead guilty. Otherwise, it’s just jumping at shadows which is weak, insipid leadership

Why the stuff would they declare what they know when there's a police investigation in process?

Well why TF would they suspend him when the rationale for that suspension cannot be explained to members?
Cart before horse Andy. Don’t fall for the woke option which is the other way around.
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Noah Balta charged with assault
« Reply #64 on: January 13, 2025, 08:56:02 PM »
While I get your point HRT

Would you rather the AFL dish out a penalty, which I've got no doubt would be harsher than what the Club has issued? 

Not sure what you want the Club to declare when Balta hasn't had his day in court

They gave their reasons as to why he's been suspended by the Club, I get you don't like or agree with their reason but they have given a reason
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Re: Noah Balta charged with assault
« Reply #65 on: January 13, 2025, 09:36:04 PM »
What happened to innocent until proven otherwise?
I think it’s time clubs called the AFL’s bluff but standing firm on player rights until these things play out.
Charge him and have the trial. Let the thing play out.
Reading between the lines here, but it seems to me like Balta has come clean and admitted he did something wrong and the club gets the penalty out of the way ASAP instead of having it dragged out.

Yahuh

Exactly.

Club isn't being woke.

They're just being proactive and clearly know more than we do.

If they know something, just declare it. It’s woke to just suspend him with being more specific. FFS, if he’s done the wrong thing, declare it an announce he plans to plead guilty. Otherwise, it’s just jumping at shadows which is weak, insipid leadership

Why the stuff would they declare what they know when there's a police investigation in process?

Well why TF would they suspend him when the rationale for that suspension cannot be explained to members?
Cart before horse Andy. Don’t fall for the woke option which is the other way around.

Why are you carrying on like the club is at fault here?

Noah clearly stuffed up and forced the club into an awkward position.

On a side note, “woke” has to be the most lazy, redundant and overused word going around. 

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Re: Noah Balta charged with assault
« Reply #66 on: January 14, 2025, 12:11:59 AM »
What happened to innocent until proven otherwise?
I think it’s time clubs called the AFL’s bluff but standing firm on player rights until these things play out.
Charge him and have the trial. Let the thing play out.
Reading between the lines here, but it seems to me like Balta has come clean and admitted he did something wrong and the club gets the penalty out of the way ASAP instead of having it dragged out.

Yahuh

Exactly.

Club isn't being woke.

They're just being proactive and clearly know more than we do.

If they know something, just declare it. It’s woke to just suspend him with being more specific. FFS, if he’s done the wrong thing, declare it an announce he plans to plead guilty. Otherwise, it’s just jumping at shadows which is weak, insipid leadership

Why the stuff would they declare what they know when there's a police investigation in process?

Well why TF would they suspend him when the rationale for that suspension cannot be explained to members?
Cart before horse Andy. Don’t fall for the woke option which is the other way around.

Because they don't owe you an explanation when they fart.

$50 says when it's all said and done he will be found to have assaulted someone and the club acted on this but chose not to tell the holier than thou members whilst a police investigation was ongoing and balta due to face court.

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Re: Noah Balta charged with assault
« Reply #67 on: January 14, 2025, 07:21:33 AM »
What happened to innocent until proven otherwise?
I think it’s time clubs called the AFL’s bluff but standing firm on player rights until these things play out.
Charge him and have the trial. Let the thing play out.
Reading between the lines here, but it seems to me like Balta has come clean and admitted he did something wrong and the club gets the penalty out of the way ASAP instead of having it dragged out.

Yahuh

Exactly.

Club isn't being woke.

They're just being proactive and clearly know more than we do.

If they know something, just declare it. It’s woke to just suspend him with being more specific. FFS, if he’s done the wrong thing, declare it an announce he plans to plead guilty. Otherwise, it’s just jumping at shadows which is weak, insipid leadership

Why the stuff would they declare what they know when there's a police investigation in process?

Well why TF would they suspend him when the rationale for that suspension cannot be explained to members?
Cart before horse Andy. Don’t fall for the woke option which is the other way around.

Why are you carrying on like the club is at fault here?

Noah clearly stuffed up and forced the club into an awkward position.

On a side note, “woke” has to be the most lazy, redundant and overused word going around.

The club ARE at fault for not waiting until the facts are presented at court or in public and this is woke because it’s pandering to a super sensitive environment that cannot tolerate any controversy with professional athletes. It’s the perfect use of the word - you’re just institutionalised to it.

We can’t control what the AFL do but by doing something ourselves we are supporting them - not our player.
As I said, be strong and show leadership. If player has done something wrong, announce he will plead guilty at a presser, do your stupid sanction and move on.

Until then, leave it.

I find it quite bizarre that Richmond supporters are actually supportive of punishing a player who hasn’t been proven or confessed to doing anything wrong in a forum that allows us the evidence to make judgement.
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Noah Balta charged with assault
« Reply #68 on: January 14, 2025, 07:34:43 AM »
Reckon you last sentence sums up why some people are OK with the sanction HRT

Yes it hasn't been proven he's guilty of anything in a court of law

Publicly, he hasn't confessed to anything but behind closed doors, within the 4 walls of the Club you don't think he hasn't told the Club what happened and what he did?

IMHO the club has acted on what Noah has told them about the incident. They have acted swiftly (again rightly IMHO). IMV that is leadership, Club has taken control of the situation rather than letting the media have a field day and HQ dictating how the Club should handle it
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Re: Noah Balta charged with assault
« Reply #69 on: January 14, 2025, 07:48:22 AM »
Then do it properly. Announce he will plead guilty, do the sanction and get it before the courts. Until then, we are all guessing.
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Noah Balta charged with assault
« Reply #70 on: January 14, 2025, 12:41:09 PM »
It’s not difficult to comprehend that sometimes players admit to things that warrant a suspension before potentially-lengthy legal proceedings play out.

You are the one ”guessing” about a “woke” club reaction when you have no idea what discussions have transpired between player and club.

I’m happy back the club’s judgement on this issue. If you’re not then I guess we leave it there.

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Re: Noah Balta charged with assault
« Reply #71 on: January 14, 2025, 06:34:03 PM »
Willy - it’s simple. Give members the transparency around such a big decision - when was the last time we suspended a player for a month over an off field transgression.
Where does it end?

I don’t think transparency over such a big decision is a big deal.
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Noah Balta charged with assault
« Reply #72 on: January 14, 2025, 09:07:38 PM »
I think the club has taken their transparency as far they should, the rest of the transparency will come from the legal proceedings.

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Re: Noah Balta charged with assault
« Reply #73 on: January 14, 2025, 10:56:15 PM »
There’s zero transparency - only a suspension.
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Noah Balta charged with assault
« Reply #74 on: January 14, 2025, 11:24:14 PM »
There’s zero transparency - only a suspension.

Think you're a real minority on this one, even an outlier.

Nobody bar you seems to expect the club to disclose what Balta has told them prior to court proceedings lol.