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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2025
« Reply #75 on: July 31, 2025, 11:15:23 PM »
The hun discussing trading Vlastuin.

I am among his biggest fans but for a first rounder you'd have to do it for a 32 year old.

For a first rounder. This stage of the rebuild.
does Nick get a say in the matter?

If he was chasing another flag he'd have left with the other lot last year.

Not trading Vlas. Would take more than a single first rounder to make me reconsider that even at his age especially in this upcoming draft and then the next drafts all being compromised by Tassie.

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2025
« Reply #76 on: July 31, 2025, 11:31:49 PM »
The hun discussing trading Vlastuin.

I am among his biggest fans but for a first rounder you'd have to do it for a 32 year old.

For a first rounder. This stage of the rebuild.
does Nick get a say in the matter?

If he was chasing another flag he'd have left with the other lot last year.

Not trading Vlas. Would take more than a single first rounder to make me reconsider that even at his age especially in this upcoming draft and then the next drafts all being compromised by Tassie.

If he's not playing in the next grand final you should make a business decision

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2025
« Reply #77 on: July 31, 2025, 11:35:17 PM »
The hun discussing trading Vlastuin.

I am among his biggest fans but for a first rounder you'd have to do it for a 32 year old.

For a first rounder. This stage of the rebuild.
does Nick get a say in the matter?

If he was chasing another flag he'd have left with the other lot last year.

Not trading Vlas. Would take more than a single first rounder to make me reconsider that even at his age especially in this upcoming draft and then the next drafts all being compromised by Tassie.

If he's not playing in the next grand final you should make a business decision

He is worth more to us providing some experience and helping mentor and drive culture for the next generation then a single 1st rounder especially when it would be a late first rounder at best in a weak draft this year and a compromised draft next year.

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2025
« Reply #78 on: July 31, 2025, 11:35:44 PM »
I wouldn't trade Vlastuin unless he asked for it and there was a top 10 pick on offer.

Would rather he just retired

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2025
« Reply #79 on: July 31, 2025, 11:38:10 PM »
The hun discussing trading Vlastuin.

I am among his biggest fans but for a first rounder you'd have to do it for a 32 year old.

For a first rounder. This stage of the rebuild.
does Nick get a say in the matter?

If he was chasing another flag he'd have left with the other lot last year.

Not trading Vlas. Would take more than a single first rounder to make me reconsider that even at his age especially in this upcoming draft and then the next drafts all being compromised by Tassie.

If he's not playing in the next grand final you should make a business decision

He is worth more to us providing some experience and helping mentor and drive culture for the next generation then a single 1st rounder especially when it would be a late first rounder at best in a weak draft this year and a compromised draft next year.

Leadership and culture is largely rubbish.

Richmond won three flags with very little mature players for a long time leading into 2017 with mostly duds as the older players.

Look at how young the list.

If you have an opportunity to find an 18 year old Vlastuin to add to pick 2 and 3 + the current group very silly to overlook that

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2025
« Reply #80 on: July 31, 2025, 11:39:28 PM »
I wouldn't trade Vlastuin unless he asked for it and there was a top 10 pick on offer.

Would rather he just retired

Did hodge going to Brisbane hurt his legacy ? No

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2025
« Reply #81 on: August 01, 2025, 08:47:08 AM »
The hun discussing trading Vlastuin.

I am among his biggest fans but for a first rounder you'd have to do it for a 32 year old.

For a first rounder. This stage of the rebuild.
does Nick get a say in the matter?

If he was chasing another flag he'd have left with the other lot last year.

Not trading Vlas. Would take more than a single first rounder to make me reconsider that even at his age especially in this upcoming draft and then the next drafts all being compromised by Tassie.

If he's not playing in the next grand final you should make a business decision

He is worth more to us providing some experience and helping mentor and drive culture for the next generation then a single 1st rounder especially when it would be a late first rounder at best in a weak draft this year and a compromised draft next year.

Leadership and culture is largely rubbish.

Richmond won three flags with very little mature players for a long time leading into 2017 with mostly duds as the older players.

Look at how young the list.

If you have an opportunity to find an 18 year old Vlastuin to add to pick 2 and 3 + the current group very silly to overlook that


Ask North if it's rubbish, they're desperately trying to get experienced players.
We'd be stupid to trade the best one on one defender in the game.

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2025
« Reply #82 on: August 01, 2025, 09:31:06 AM »
Leadership and culture is largely rubbish.

Richmond won three flags with very little mature players for a long time leading into 2017 with mostly duds as the older players.

Look at how young the list.

If you have an opportunity to find an 18 year old Vlastuin to add to pick 2 and 3 + the current group very silly to overlook that

Genuinely honest question, are you actually a Tiger supporter? Don't mind either way, just actually curious.

Leadership and culture are critical items in a rebuild with so many young kids. Being a good player doesn't mean you're a leader and being a leader doesn't mean you're a good player (see Maxwell, Pies captain. Harley, Cats captain. Modest players IMO).

I also don't think any club is going to offer a top 10 or even 15 pick for Vlastuin at his age. Maybe they'd be offering 15-20+ but with this draft reportedly not that deep, and the amount of kids we've already drafted, I wouldn't be entertaining it unless it was an offer too good to refuse. Of which we haven't received any yet.

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2025
« Reply #83 on: August 01, 2025, 09:53:56 AM »
Leadership and culture is largely rubbish.

Richmond won three flags with very little mature players for a long time leading into 2017 with mostly duds as the older players.

Look at how young the list.

If you have an opportunity to find an 18 year old Vlastuin to add to pick 2 and 3 + the current group very silly to overlook that

Genuinely honest question, are you actually a Tiger supporter? Don't mind either way, just actually curious.

Leadership and culture are critical items in a rebuild with so many young kids. Being a good player doesn't mean you're a leader and being a leader doesn't mean you're a good player (see Maxwell, Pies captain. Harley, Cats captain. Modest players IMO).

I also don't think any club is going to offer a top 10 or even 15 pick for Vlastuin at his age. Maybe they'd be offering 15-20+ but with this draft reportedly not that deep, and the amount of kids we've already drafted, I wouldn't be entertaining it unless it was an offer too good to refuse. Of which we haven't received any yet.

Like I said. Who were the old leaders in the 17 flag? And the years before.  The tigers had very few mature players bar a couple like maric and Newman. The leadership was developed from within the young core; cotchin, Vlastuin etc.

That resulted in a young list and winning three times and only finished when it was mishandled at the end.

Vlastuin at 32 is a champion but he is stopping the development of a young player and the back 6 is too old with broad. Short. Floss.

It's be very short sighted to reject a proper top20 selection for him.

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2025
« Reply #84 on: August 01, 2025, 10:10:58 AM »
The hun discussing trading Vlastuin.

I am among his biggest fans but for a first rounder you'd have to do it for a 32 year old.

For a first rounder. This stage of the rebuild.
does Nick get a say in the matter?

If he was chasing another flag he'd have left with the other lot last year.

Not trading Vlas. Would take more than a single first rounder to make me reconsider that even at his age especially in this upcoming draft and then the next drafts all being compromised by Tassie.

If he's not playing in the next grand final you should make a business decision

He is worth more to us providing some experience and helping mentor and drive culture for the next generation then a single 1st rounder especially when it would be a late first rounder at best in a weak draft this year and a compromised draft next year.

Leadership and culture is largely rubbish.

Richmond won three flags with very little mature players for a long time leading into 2017 with mostly duds as the older players.

Look at how young the list.

If you have an opportunity to find an 18 year old Vlastuin to add to pick 2 and 3 + the current group very silly to overlook that


Ask North if it's rubbish, they're desperately trying to get experienced players.
We'd be stupid to trade the best one on one defender in the game.

So your only example is one bad team that'll likely be better next season?

Why not comment on the top8 teams with young lists

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2025
« Reply #85 on: August 01, 2025, 11:48:11 AM »
You need a spell AJ. Some horrendous takes from you
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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2025
« Reply #86 on: August 01, 2025, 12:04:08 PM »
You need a spell AJ. Some horrendous takes from you

Apart from,  not being bent on keeping a 32 year old...at all costs. In year 1 of a rebuild...

Where the club is going 'well' (3rd last trending downwards ) , due to the mature players carrying the club in the middle (nank, prestia, tt, hop, McIntosh ) and back (Vlastuin, broad, short) along with Lynch being the only focal point in the first half of the year.

And the list having massive holes in the mid-age sections that'll come to bite sooner rather than later (24-28)

Which other takes got your panties in a twist?


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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2025
« Reply #87 on: August 01, 2025, 12:40:28 PM »
The hun discussing trading Vlastuin.

I am among his biggest fans but for a first rounder you'd have to do it for a 32 year old.

For a first rounder. This stage of the rebuild.
does Nick get a say in the matter?

If he was chasing another flag he'd have left with the other lot last year.

Not trading Vlas. Would take more than a single first rounder to make me reconsider that even at his age especially in this upcoming draft and then the next drafts all being compromised by Tassie.

If he's not playing in the next grand final you should make a business decision

He is worth more to us providing some experience and helping mentor and drive culture for the next generation then a single 1st rounder especially when it would be a late first rounder at best in a weak draft this year and a compromised draft next year.

Leadership and culture is largely rubbish.

Richmond won three flags with very little mature players for a long time leading into 2017 with mostly duds as the older players.

Look at how young the list.

If you have an opportunity to find an 18 year old Vlastuin to add to pick 2 and 3 + the current group very silly to overlook that


Ask North if it's rubbish, they're desperately trying to get experienced players.
We'd be stupid to trade the best one on one defender in the game.

So your only example is one bad team that'll likely be better next season?

Why not comment on the top8 teams with young lists

Well they’d better hope they’re better next season given them finished last or second last for the past 7 seasons.

We’ve been down the bottom for 2 seasons now. Getting a pick in the 20s for vlas is not going to accelerate that and make us worse in the short term.

Don’t compare us currently to that list rebuild that led to the dynasty. Within that rebuild we drafted some generational talents and all time greats of the club. Will see in 5 years time if our current crop can even touch the heights of that team.

And come off it. Vlas is not stopping the development of any young player. Who is he currently keeping out of the side that deserves to come in, unless you think Blight is that player….. Gibcus has just started returning from injury and once he’s ready to go I’m sure he will be straight back in. Broad will retire at the end of next season, he has already stated that which will open up another defensive spot if we chose to draft anymore defenders.

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2025
« Reply #88 on: August 01, 2025, 02:53:44 PM »
Leadership and culture is largely rubbish.

Richmond won three flags with very little mature players for a long time leading into 2017 with mostly duds as the older players.

Look at how young the list.

If you have an opportunity to find an 18 year old Vlastuin to add to pick 2 and 3 + the current group very silly to overlook that

Genuinely honest question, are you actually a Tiger supporter? Don't mind either way, just actually curious.

Leadership and culture are critical items in a rebuild with so many young kids. Being a good player doesn't mean you're a leader and being a leader doesn't mean you're a good player (see Maxwell, Pies captain. Harley, Cats captain. Modest players IMO).

I also don't think any club is going to offer a top 10 or even 15 pick for Vlastuin at his age. Maybe they'd be offering 15-20+ but with this draft reportedly not that deep, and the amount of kids we've already drafted, I wouldn't be entertaining it unless it was an offer too good to refuse. Of which we haven't received any yet.

Like I said. Who were the old leaders in the 17 flag? And the years before.  The tigers had very few mature players bar a couple like maric and Newman. The leadership was developed from within the young core; cotchin, Vlastuin etc.

That resulted in a young list and winning three times and only finished when it was mishandled at the end.

Vlastuin at 32 is a champion but he is stopping the development of a young player and the back 6 is too old with broad. Short. Floss.

It's be very short sighted to reject a proper top20 selection for him.


You didn't answer my question.


What's your own question specifically? Do you want to know who our experienced leaders were prior to the dynasty/development of our 4 key players?


The 2020 list was actually very mature and I'm somewhat in agreement with the theory that the shorter games in 2020 suited that aspect of our list to be honest.


Vlastuin IMHO is not stopping anyone's development. Nor is Broad. Who should be taking their spots this year? Short might be, yes, I said I'm agreeable to trade him.

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2025
« Reply #89 on: August 01, 2025, 05:16:35 PM »
Vlastuin should never be traded under any circumstances. On the verge of an AA cap and some are happy for him to go for a pick who most likely will be a dud in a dud draft.

On field leaders, Maric, Grigg, Bachar, Rance, all were or would have been 29 plus i'm pretty sure by our first flag. Before that we saw chapman, edwards, daniel jackson, lids, J King, roll around.

This argument doesn't take into consideration tassy and the compromised draft that we are heading into.

Vlas isn't stoping anyone developing. In fact he is fast tracking our rebuild.

Crazy to suggest otherwise IMO.

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