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Re: BEN COUSINS [merged]
« Reply #1200 on: August 02, 2010, 07:37:04 PM »
Coaches votes this week would suggest we supporters don't see the same things that the coaches look for:

Richmond v Adelaide
8 Shane Tuck (Rich)
5 Chris Newman (Rich)
4 Brett Deledio (Rich)
4 Ben Rutten (Adel)
3 Michael Doughty (Adel)
2 Scott Thompson (Adel)
2 Shane Edwards (Rich)
1 Daniel Jackson (Rich)
1 Dustin Martin (Rich)

Not a vote for Cuz!  :o
He couldve tipped one of those crows players out!

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Re: BEN COUSINS [merged]
« Reply #1201 on: August 02, 2010, 08:39:22 PM »
If its 1 more year for Cousins or Tuck or King then I vote to keep Cousins  :gotigers

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« Reply #1202 on: August 02, 2010, 10:59:25 PM »
Coaches votes this week would suggest we supporters don't see the same things that the coaches look for:

Richmond v Adelaide
8 Shane Tuck (Rich)
5 Chris Newman (Rich)
4 Brett Deledio (Rich)
4 Ben Rutten (Adel)
3 Michael Doughty (Adel)
2 Scott Thompson (Adel)
2 Shane Edwards (Rich)
1 Daniel Jackson (Rich)
1 Dustin Martin (Rich)

Not a vote for Cuz!  :o

Not a huge surprise. Played well but we had more influential players than Cousins yesterday.

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« Reply #1203 on: August 02, 2010, 11:03:48 PM »
If he does get cut at years end what's wrong with keeping him @ punt road as a development coach?
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Re: BEN COUSINS [merged]
« Reply #1204 on: August 06, 2010, 02:09:17 AM »
'Football family' helping Cousins, says Demetriou
PETER HANLON
August 6, 2010


WITH a decision on Ben Cousins' football future looming, AFL boss Andrew Demetriou yesterday hinted at the fears many hold for how the recovering drug addict will cope with life after the game.

Speaking with compassion and support for a player who has effectively been football's substance abuse guinea pig, Demetriou said the prospect of a documentary on Cousins' battles airing while he was still an AFL player did not concern him, as there would be much for all to learn from it.

''I think Ben's next challenge is … if he plays next year he'll have another year of structure around him. If he's not playing next year, I hope that he can stay within football,'' Demetriou said.

''I think the football family will help Ben, and I think he's got a lot to offer the football family.''

Richmond is mulling over whether to give Cousins a third season at Punt Road, with Tiger great Kevin Bartlett yesterday urging the club to maintain the faith it has shown in the Brownlow medallist.

Demetriou also praised Richmond for the opportunity it has given Cousins, and spoke of the benefits a structured football environment has provided him.

Demetriou forecast that the two-hour documentary, which has been purchased by Channel Seven for a six-figure sum, would explain a lot about the 32-year-old's trials, and be invaluable for parents and families in the fight against drug abuse.

''As I understand it, the documentary will be very confronting, but it will also have lots of things that we can take out of it, particularly with trying to help raise awareness about the plight of illicit drug use,'' Demetriou said. ''Our preference is that it wouldn't be [aired] in the finals, because we obviously have a huge focus around the finals. We'll wait and see when it's on.''

Richmond coach Damien Hardwick echoed Demetriou's sentiments, and said he would like to show the film to the Tigers' playing group. ''The thing about the documentary is if one person learns one thing from it, I reckon it will be a documentary well worth doing,'' Hardwick said. ''You've got to heed its message - drugs within our society, it's a very confronting thing, I have young kids myself.''

Demetriou said there were some ''very deep learnings to be had'', not only from the 266-game premiership player's battle but the way it has been viewed. ''I think the media in the beginning - like the AFL and others - found it hard to believe. It was the shock of it. Some were outraged, others were more balanced, but overall I think the coverage was balanced.

''Interestingly enough, I think when he was penalised people were relieved, but when he came back he became a hero, people were glad to see him back playing. I think the public threw their arms around him.''

Bartlett yesterday implored Richmond to weigh up the contribution Cousins can make next season, praising the club for how it has coped with his off-field issues, and saying it was ''a no-brainer'' that he be given a contract extension if deemed medically fit to play on.

''There is no doubt that he's become a favourite son for the supporters,'' Bartlett said on SEN. ''His enthusiasm is there for all to see. No one enjoys winning more than Cousins at Tigerland.

''The club is on record saying that Cousins has been a fantastic asset. The club's resurgence still needs Ben Cousins.''

Demetriou enthused about what ''an extraordinary player'' Cousins has been, bemoaning that such greatness can be forgotten when things go awry, a situation he likened to Jason Akermanis's recent axing by the Western Bulldogs.

''At the height of his powers he was extraordinary - his capacity to play, his endurance, his fitness regime, his mental toughness. He's showing that still now, with Richmond at age 30-plus, he's playing great football.''

Richmond president Gary March said this week the club will make a decision on Cousins' future within three weeks.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/football-family-helping-cousins-says-demetriou-20100805-11kok.html

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« Reply #1205 on: August 07, 2010, 02:28:35 PM »
Have Tigers already made up their mind about Cousins?
By Justin Rodski
Roar
August 7, 2010



With a decision looming on the future of Ben Cousins, the way the Tigers have been dealing with the issue in the past fortnight suggests the club might have already made up its mind.

Ultimately when you weigh up all the positives and negatives he has to offer, to me, the probability seems to fall in his favour, but in taking a closer look at recent events, perhaps the club is leaning towards ending his controversial career, not prolonging it any further.

The imminent release of his documentary isn’t working in his favour.

The Tigers would be slightly concerned about its contents and how it might end up reflecting on the club. Not to mention the distraction and frenzy it has the potential to create both in the build up to its release and in the aftermath as well.

Its understood Richmond CEO Brendan Gale has seen a rough cut of the documentary and remains somewhat nervous about it being shown on primetime TV.

Coach Damien Hardwick said he hadn’t seen the documentary but

“It is something that we at some stage would like to show our playing group.” He said yesterday

Hmmm, at some stage, like maybe when Cousins has left the club?

But then again if he plays on for another year, wouldn’t the producers be keen on documenting his final year? What if he relapsed? Surely the story isn’t complete until he retires from football?

This might be his saving grace if you’ll pardon the pun and could work well to appease both parties if he was to re-sign for one last chapter.

2010 couldn’t have been scripted any better, like his career, it had all the drama of a soap opera and the media and the general public once again followed his life like a gripping TV series.

When he was rushed to hospital unconsciousness a month ago the automatic conclusion most people quickly jumped to was that he had relapsed, however the club and then Cousins later revealed, he had a reaction to a prescription drug and not an overdose at all.

All great drama yes, but seriously, for a bloke trying to keep his nose clean this isn’t going to sit well with Richmond.

How many other AFL players have ended up in intensive care this season under suspicious circumstances?

He seems to be a victim of the wrong place at the wrong time far too often.

Involved in a drunken night at a Sydney hotel earlier in the year, Cousins who protested he wasn’t drunk, had to use physical force to restrain an intoxicated team-mate.

More unwanted attention at Punt Road.

It has to be said of course the Tigers knew what they were getting themselves into and for the most part I think they have managed, massaged and responded extremely well to the hysteria and incidents that have occurred throughout his time at Tigerland.

But now Cousins is a year older and after another season of hysteria and focus on his every move, you cant help but wonder if the club might say, OK, enough is enough and its time we move on without the Cousins distraction.

Interestingly Richmond has asked their players to tow the club line when it comes to questions about his future, Brett Deledio said “I don’t have an opinion on that, I’m just going to say what the club has told me to say and that’s no comment”

This comes after several Richmond players publicly declared their support for Cousins to play on for another year, maybe now the club has realised the ground swell of public opinion is well and truly favouring Cousins to play on, and for fear of a major backlash if they do decide to cut him lose, they have quickly closed ranks to avoid any further damage being done.

Hardwick has publicly always been a huge supporter of Cousins and while this week he again wouldn’t be drawn on the issue, his comments last week hinted he too might be trying to prepare the football public for a tough decision.

He said the proposed capping of interchange rotations from next season would potentially affect his decision on Cousins future, because a player of his age requires more time on the bench to recover.

But hang on a minute, when was the last time a player retired or was denied a contract because of a rule change?

Surely he can still find 7 interchange rotations for Ben Cousins even if rotations are capped.

Maybe, just maybe, this was another subtle way of telling the Tigers faithful that Cousins wont be playing in the yellow and black next season?

Working in his favour is of course Cousins talent and ability as a player, when he has managed to have an injury free or incident free run at it this season his form easily warrants another contract.

He’s also taken on a mentoring role with a number of the Tigers younger players, whilst being a great communicator out on the ground Cousins has become a real general in the midfield with the way he instructs and directs his teammates into position at the stoppages.

You can’t buy his football knowledge and experience, but will the Tigers end up paying the ultimate price if they keep him?

Is he simply too much of a distraction?

Right now as it stands, despite public sentiment, I’d say Richmond believe he’s not worth the risk of another season

http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/08/07/have-tigers-already-made-up-their-mind-about-cousins/

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« Reply #1206 on: August 08, 2010, 05:14:05 PM »
Cousins is still in our best 22 infact he is still in our best 18, the club should keep him on and make some tough decisions elsewhere.

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Re: BEN COUSINS [merged]
« Reply #1207 on: August 08, 2010, 05:22:26 PM »
One more year...PLEASE
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Re: BEN COUSINS [merged]
« Reply #1208 on: August 08, 2010, 06:51:09 PM »
On current form over the past few weeks he's been in our best 6. Based on his football he deserves another year and it's not as though we don't have plenty of list cloggers ahead of him. The only reason I can see him not getting another year is because the club doesn't want the off-field soap opera and obsession from the media that surrounds him.
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« Reply #1209 on: August 08, 2010, 08:59:31 PM »
if the club gives him the ars and he gets back on the gear they can GFT!

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« Reply #1210 on: August 08, 2010, 09:13:36 PM »
He's got to deal with that, sooner or later, though ox.
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Re: BEN COUSINS [merged]
« Reply #1211 on: August 08, 2010, 09:36:35 PM »
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Retire him at your peril RFC

We need him
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Re: BEN COUSINS [merged]
« Reply #1212 on: August 08, 2010, 09:43:32 PM »
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Retire him at your peril RFC

We need him
whatever the decision. Keep him there anyway. Employ him as a development coach even if he's cut. Atleast then he's busy and not left with nothing to do.
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« Reply #1213 on: August 09, 2010, 06:02:36 AM »
We will move past Cousins as we have other older players.
The fact is we will again finish 2nd last.
Ben is finishing off well but hardly a stretch to move on an 32 year old at the end of his career.

We need to inject more young talent into the side as we are still a way off.
I just hope the supporters don't lambast the club if a hard decision on his future is made on the side of the ledger they disagree with.

Hardwick, whilst agreeing he's been good, has been hardly effusive in his praise for Cousins despite his recently improved form.
Like it or not, I think they'll ask him to call it a day.
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« Reply #1214 on: August 09, 2010, 09:12:23 PM »
Here's Mark Robinson's The Tackle’s list from those under the greatest prssure to the least

4. Ben Cousins
Not the man himself, but the decision to keep him or delist him. Cousins is a champion of the game and no-one can take that off him. The Tigers, however, can end one of the most fascinating careers of them all. The decision will be made within a fortnight and when Tigers president Gary March told the Herald Sun it would be made before the end of the season, it smacked of a farewell game. I dare say if there is one, Cousins will simply smile and say he had fun.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tackle