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Re: 'Awkward' Sheeds pulls pin on Tigers (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #1020 on: July 12, 2009, 10:45:06 AM »
See this is classical Richmond.

At a time when the board, the management, the players, the members, supporters and sponsors need to get together and agree on a decision we have another wedge in the relationships going on at the club. So whoever gets the job now, a section of the club still wont be happy. Some will say the process was rigged and Sheeds should have been coach, the other section who want a young coach will be happy if its Hardwick, Buckley or Hird, - anyone else and they to will be unhappy.

Our club has turned what was supposed to be a professional process into another Richmond brothel.

only because ignorant fans cant see the forrest from the trees


GM has done exactly what he had to do in this situation.

Its not his fault that KB and Sheeds are imbeciles

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Re: Candidate for coaching job has pulled out!!!!
« Reply #1021 on: July 12, 2009, 10:49:18 AM »
Well atleast the circus will end now and the real dealings in finding the next coach can go on behind closed doors...until of course it gets leaked into the media or by Jacko in OER lol.

Ramps, one thing is for certain.
The club will more than likely make the same mistakes as its done with the past 6 coaches that have FAILED.
What funny is this , everyone bagged Spud, ( you know the coach that got us to our last final series )  Reason Spud failed as he didnt have the support of the club and most of the people around him - they all new better and tried to under mine him- FACT.
 With Wallace, the club beleived the crap proposal , gave him 5 years at $600,000 a year with NO measuring on his performance, who is too blame, THE CLUB.
And then "'behind the scenes"" they ask Wayne Campbell to come back to the club as he has been "'promised "" the gig in 2010.
God help this footy club.
Dont blame Sheeds for pulling the pin, the process down there is a joke.
People make decsions and arent accountable :banghead
If the club had any balls, go and offer Buckley the gig NOW, forget about the rubbish process. You will find the Buckley with Campbell as his assistant would be a good mix, they are best mates
The only facts I believe from you are that you said Sheedy would coach Richmond - FACT
But OH SO WRONG  :wallywink
Just shows how deluded you are.
All I said all along that Sheeds wanted the job.  Not my fault that March and others have "personal" issues.
Now Moi and Froars, what happens to wayne Campbell now ?
I didnt promise him the gig in 2010 :banghead

campbell wont get the job next year, so you are wrong there.

and sheedy did not get the job because of personal issues. So wrong again.

Jack, have you actually made a presiction that came true? because your srtike rate is 0.

Give it up

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Re: 'Awkward' Sheeds pulls pin on Tigers (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #1022 on: July 12, 2009, 11:14:01 AM »
See this is classical Richmond.

At a time when the board, the management, the players, the members, supporters and sponsors need to get together and agree on a decision we have another wedge in the relationships going on at the club. So whoever gets the job now, a section of the club still wont be happy. Some will say the process was rigged and Sheeds should have been coach, the other section who want a young coach will be happy if its Hardwick, Buckley or Hird, - anyone else and they to will be unhappy.

Our club has turned what was supposed to be a professional process into another Richmond brothel.

No it wasn't our Club.
It was an ex-player who, after a 20 year absence, thinks he knows best. Selfish as a player and hasn't changed.
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Re: KB wants Sheeds as coach [merged]
« Reply #1023 on: July 12, 2009, 11:14:55 AM »
Wait for the past player and coterie sooks to have a cry come Monday morning now that their mate is out. Serves them right for publicly pushing his cause and putting pressure on and embarrassing the Club ::). The media will make a big deal about this but good on the Club for holding firm and not caving in. Part of the cultural change is generational change both on and off field  :thumbsup.

Excellent post MT. 

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Re: 'Awkward' Sheeds pulls pin on Tigers (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #1024 on: July 12, 2009, 11:17:49 AM »
http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/07/12/richmond-shouldnt-fall-for-media-intimidation/

By Michael DiFabrizio

The tail is again attempting to wag the dog at Richmond. Fresh from the Terry Wallace saga – where members of the playing group were alleged to have approached the head coach and asked him to resign – another group are now meddling in club affairs, the media.

In what has been widely described as an “orchestrated campaign”, former Tiger star and Essendon coach Kevin Sheedy last week announced he’ll put himself in the running for the vacant head coach position.

Club legend Kevin Bartlett, through his popular morning show on radio station SEN and in television interviews, has come out backing Sheedy.

Other Tiger legends such as Tom Hafey and Francis Bourke have been named as supporters of the push.

Journalist Patrick Smith wrote a lengthy article in The Australian joining the chorus.

There are a few factors that influence Sheedy’s credentials. He’s 61 at a time when there has been a notable shift towards younger coaches. Yet he’s also the man who took Essendon to 19 finals series and four premierships.

Deciding whether or not he’s the right man for the job is a delicate question.

But, at the end of the day, it’s a question that should be answered by the club and its in-depth process. It certainly shouldn’t be answered by a media-driven campaign.

That seems to be what the Sheedy camp are banking on – that, just like they did with Ben Cousins late last year, the Tiger faithful will all band together in support of their man and put insurmountable pressure on the club’s hierarchy.

The Richmond board (who are elected by the supporters, it must be remembered) shouldn’t have a bar of it.

Some of the best coaches in the game today slipped under the noses of the media. Some were even chosen ahead of past legends at those clubs.

Last year’s premiership coach Alastair Clarkson was chosen over a field that included ex-Hawthorn players because he was the clear standout during the selection process. Few people outside the club saw the choice coming.

The coach of this year’s ladder leaders St Kilda, Ross Lyon, similarly came out of nowhere to land his job. His competitors in the final phase of selection were all more well-known than him. Few people outside the club saw the choice coming.

Even the man chosen to replace Sheedy at Essendon, Matthew Knights, has been outperforming his expectations with the young Bombers list. Again, few people outside the club saw the choice coming.

Perhaps the best piece of evidence in support of having a thorough process comes from Richmond itself. The club has conceded there was little process involved in the hiring of Terry Wallace, he just appeared to be the best available coach.

Given how that turned out, it is imperative the Tigers find the right candidate.

If after all the interviews and input from experts, Kevin Sheedy is the right man for the job, then great – Kevin Sheedy should appointed coach of Richmond.

If there’s any influence beyond that process, through the media or otherwise, then it’s going to restrict the club from acting in its own best interests.

And if that happens, we can expect more of the same at Punt Rd.
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Re: 'Awkward' Sheeds pulls pin on Tigers (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #1025 on: July 12, 2009, 11:47:58 AM »
Well done to the RFC board for sticking to their due diligence.
Once Sheeds thought that he was not getting a free ride he pulled the pin.
That in itself will prove that the best candidate will be appointed who will strive to improve the RFC playing list.
The right candidate who is Sheeds would have increased memberships through the romance and myth of coming to Punt Rd had us scaling the pre season dizzy heights of hype and we would have come crashing down as we did on March 26 this year.
Kudos to the club for standing firm.
Sheedy forever the snake in the grass.



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Re: 'Awkward' Sheeds pulls pin on Tigers (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #1026 on: July 12, 2009, 11:50:27 AM »
Think I disagree with everything written about this subject. Haven't got the energy to argue all of it.
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Re: 'Awkward' Sheeds pulls pin on Tigers (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #1027 on: July 12, 2009, 12:00:20 PM »
Think I disagree with everything written about this subject. Haven't got the energy to argue all of it.

Then why did you bother to post that lol

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Re: Candidate for coaching job has pulled out!!!!
« Reply #1028 on: July 12, 2009, 12:10:55 PM »

Now Moi and Froars, what happens to wayne Campbell now ?
Maybe the club will appoint him
Or maybe he will go out and get some coaching experience which is what he should have in the first place
Maybe he'll run off with Daffy into the sunset
Who cares what he does  ::)


Facts of the matter are this.

Wayne was contracted to be at the dogs this year 2009, but his management was contacted by the RFC to come back with the prospect of coaching the tiges in 2010.
Western Bulldogs released Wayne form his contract so he could come back to Punt Road.
Whats even more amazing is that you talk about Wayne and Nick in the same sentence, funny they dont even talk any more. :banghead
Shows what a compete imbecile you really are.
Might further add both Nick and Wayne are quality people, more than I can say about some ;)
Show us some proof, Jack
Didn't we already have a coach
That means they were deliberately undermining Wallace before things started to go bad, before round one
Some pretty terrible accusations you're making, Jack
Put up or shut up, Jack

Everyone knew that Wallace wouldnt coach the year out,. even Terry knew
Considering we just missed the eight and were highly placed in most people's minds to make the eight, why was he a dead man walking "before" this season?

certainly says a lot about your intelligence if you thought finishing the year in 9th meant he wasn't a dead man walking.

fair dinkum some of you must have been hiding in Neverland the last 4 years.

It was his final year of 5 of which he has made the finals..........uumm let me see NOT ONCE.

We beat one side in the final 8 (Hawks) who ended up winning the flag.

Players have gone backwards in their development and some very stupid recruiting decisions which included Mclovin, Thompson, Hislop, and going back further Kingsley, Graham, P Bowden. That combined with the fact we still have JON and Schulz on our list.

Now i aint no rocket scientist but blind freddy can see that HE WAS A DEAD MAN WALKING.
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Re: Candidate for coaching job has pulled out!!!!
« Reply #1029 on: July 12, 2009, 12:31:56 PM »
Dont waste your time explaining logic daniel
half the people here have no idea and dont even go to the games, they still expect Schulz to be our savior, lol
You would of that every applicate would have a fair hearing, thus this isnt the case.
Wouldnt think March would hold his position much longer.

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Re: 'Awkward' Sheeds pulls pin on Tigers (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #1030 on: July 12, 2009, 12:33:32 PM »
GARY MARCH SHOULD STEP DOWN ASAP. AND IF I WERE KB, I WOULD START THE CAMPAIGN TO GET RID OF MARCH

MARCH IS TROUBLE AND IS THE SELF CENTRED SOB NOT SHEEDY

TOTALLY AGREE.
Why wouldnt every applicate have the same opportunity if you were going to go through the process.
On your bike March,

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Re: 'Awkward' Sheeds pulls pin on Tigers (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #1031 on: July 12, 2009, 12:34:14 PM »
See this is classical Richmond.

At a time when the board, the management, the players, the members, supporters and sponsors need to get together and agree on a decision we have another wedge in the relationships going on at the club. So whoever gets the job now, a section of the club still wont be happy. Some will say the process was rigged and Sheeds should have been coach, the other section who want a young coach will be happy if its Hardwick, Buckley or Hird, - anyone else and they to will be unhappy.

Our club has turned what was supposed to be a professional process into another Richmond brothel.

Agree Ramps

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Re: 'Awkward' Sheeds pulls pin on Tigers (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #1032 on: July 12, 2009, 12:35:18 PM »
See this is classical Richmond.

At a time when the board, the management, the players, the members, supporters and sponsors need to get together and agree on a decision we have another wedge in the relationships going on at the club. So whoever gets the job now, a section of the club still wont be happy. Some will say the process was rigged and Sheeds should have been coach, the other section who want a young coach will be happy if its Hardwick, Buckley or Hird, - anyone else and they to will be unhappy.

Our club has turned what was supposed to be a professional process into another Richmond brothel.

only because ignorant fans cant see the forrest from the trees


GM has done exactly what he had to do in this situation.

Its not his fault that KB and Sheeds are imbeciles

But the reality is that the campaign on SEN created a wedge that was probably there anyways. Let me ask you  this question - If Allan Richardson for example gets the gig- Do you believe he would have the support of the whole Richmond fraternity?

Personally I cant see it. Everyone has broken of into different directions.

- Some wanted Sheedy
- Some want Buckley
- Some want Malthouse
- Some want Hird
- Some want Hardwick
etc etc etc.

This is only my opinion, but because it has all happened as it has the only coach from that list that could unify everyone behind him is Malthouse but with Collingwood firing I cant see him leaving.

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Re: Candidate for coaching job has pulled out!!!!
« Reply #1033 on: July 12, 2009, 12:35:36 PM »
Daniel, stop being such a bigot! It was not the 9th finish that got everyone excited, it was the promise of things to come! Now it didnt eventuate but we all we all thought it would, even you and youre mate Jack who were conspicious by your absenteeism once we strung a few wins together late last season.

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Re: 'Awkward' Sheeds pulls pin on Tigers (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #1034 on: July 12, 2009, 12:35:56 PM »
Think I disagree with everything written about this subject. Haven't got the energy to argue all of it.

Then why did you bother to post that lol

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