Kevin Sheedy threads [merged]

[harry bosch]

If wallace walked away now he wouldnever get a job again..

As for getting rid of him now it is ludicrous , who do people suggest we replace him with??

[Passionfruit]

Wallace would get a job in the media, no problems

[harry bosch]

Was talking about another coaching job , after walking o nthe dogs another walk would end his career..

[Passionfruit]

People dont realise he destroyed the dogs,
Why do you think there is that hatred between him Chris Grant, Scott west and co.
They havent forgiven him.

[WilliamPowell]

Sheeds wants to coach for another 5 years.
If he went to another club, he would take an an assistant who he would had over the reins to eventually and mentor.
he wouldnt work with a Terry wallace type but more of a younger coach

Does Sheeds actually realise that sometimes we don't get what we want ???

Now these are serious questions Jack;

1/ Has Sheeds actually thought maybe it is time to give it away - IMO perhaps it would better for him to got out on top.

2/ Do you really think it is relasitic for Sheeds to think that he can go to another Club, coach and then say this blokes my successor, I would think the coaching position at a footy club would be determined by the Board not Sheeds

I think TJ is going senile - fancy comparing Wallace and Sheedy with Parkin and Brittain. There are no parallels.

Senile?

Dillusional past players/coaches more like it

[Passionfruit]

Will answer WP.

1/ Would think he has 3-5 years left in him
He always has excellent assistants under him with plenty of experience. Eg Ex coaches, Robert Shaw, Gary Ayres etc.

2/ Would think if Sheeds goes to another club and that he will, he will bring a package with him eg. Neale Daniher as an assistant etc.
If regards to an successor, it would only work if the person was currently in an assistant roles and had some tie with the club, eg. Richmond and Chris Bond for example. He couldnt bring on board an inexperienced assistant and expect the club to accept that.

Might also add that two of Richmond current assistants have had no experience before they started there roles, Eg King and Rawlings.
If you were running a business, you wouldnt employ Managers who havent had the experience would you ????? Richmond did on Wallaces recommendations so  I see little difference if what Sheeds would do compared to current situation with inexperinced people in major roles.
the Sheedy model would solve this

[WilliamPowell]

Thanks Jack -

If you were running a business, you wouldnt employ Managers who havent had the experience would you ????? Richmond did on Wallaces recommendations so  I see little difference if what Sheeds would do compared to current situation with inexperinced people in major roles.
the Sheedy model would solve this

Fair call. Sometimes how ever as a Senior manager you have to make the tough call and bring in someone with no experience simply because they are the best option. In some cases a fresh idea from a fresh face can have a massive impact.

From a coaching perspective I think that's why some people are so keen on Voss going straight into a senior role. Also look at the pies and Scott from the Lions who's a development coach for them - everyone is raving about how he is going. He didn't have the experience but got the job and the results are all positive

I would argue that one of the roles of a senior coach is to not only teach players but also teach coaches - that is why they bring in the inexperienced and give then a go. Also I reckon it's important to have blokes just out of the game on your coaching panel.

[Moi]

Did we have a huge budget for assistant coaches?

[Passionfruit]

Thanks Jack -

If you were running a business, you wouldnt employ Managers who havent had the experience would you ????? Richmond did on Wallaces recommendations so  I see little difference if what Sheeds would do compared to current situation with inexperinced people in major roles.
the Sheedy model would solve this

Fair call. Sometimes how ever as a Senior manager you have to make the tough call and bring in someone with no experience simply because they are the best option. In some cases a fresh idea from a fresh face can have a massive impact.

From a coaching perspective I think that's why some people are so keen on Voss going straight into a senior role. Also look at the pies and Scott from the Lions who's a development coach for them - everyone is raving about how he is going. He didn't have the experience but got the job and the results are all positive

I would argue that one of the roles of a senior coach is to not only teach players but also teach coaches - that is why they bring in the inexperienced and give then a go. Also I reckon it's important to have blokes just out of the game on your coaching panel.

I not just saying this to be friendly but I reckon this would work with other clubs but not us. We have been a basket case for years and years and we arent in a position to give people experince and them to move on or in some situation fail and change careers.
RFC needs the best people there, I dont beleive this is the current situation.
From coaches to fitness .
E.g. geelong gaining  Balme, Wheadon and Kellaway makes a huge difference.

[WilliamPowell]

I not just saying this to be friendly but I reckon this would work with other clubs but not us. We have been a basket case for years and years and we arent in a position to give people experince and them to move on or in some situation fail and change careers.
RFC needs the best people there, I dont beleive this is the current situation.
From coaches to fitness .
E.g. geelong gaining  Balme, Wheadon and Kellaway makes a huge difference.

I would argue very strongly that Craig McCrae has been an outstanding pick up for the RFC this season. We need to hang onto him. Perhaps your mate Craig Cameron would be a good fit too. Personally I have had question marks over the fitness guys for a couple of years now simply because they have been there so long

In answer to your question Moi - our footy department budget is one o fhte smallest in the Comp but will increase next year as we were told last Wednesday night at the locker room night

[Passionfruit]

McCrae wont be there next year

Carlton with Voss

[mightytiges]

Gracie on Y&B:

March answered that there has not been any movement from the club on Sheedy as Sheedy was still the Essendon coach. March said the club would love to have him back but it wouldn't be as coach or coaching director.

http://www.yellowandblack.com.au/forum/showpost.php?p=102786&postcount=1

We'll need to find two development coaches for next year if McRae leaves to join Voss. One to replace McRae plus the new one.

[torch]

sheedy in the club would be great ...

assistant would be a dream ...

[tigersalive]

McCrae wont be there next year

Carlton with Voss

stuff it. 

McRae is the only one of our assistants I think is doing a decent job.

[torch]

McCrae wont be there next year

Carlton with Voss

eff it. 

McRae is the only one of our assistants I think is doing a decent job.

i agree ... seems to be doing a good job !!!