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Re: Sheedy Sacked: Now the Tiges are amongst the pigeons.
« Reply #300 on: July 25, 2007, 09:43:58 PM »
I will repeat what I have been saying all along.


No chance of sheeds at richmond next year, none.

Sheeds may well coach again, but not at tigerland. that dream is dead. Thank God

Little secret here Blaisee
The deal with Sheeds was nearly over the line 3 years ago,
Just ask your friend Greg Miller who supported Wallace and not the ""BIG PICTURE""  This is fact.
If is wasnt for Miller, Sheeds would of been in his third year at Punt road and we wouldnt be on the bottom and we wouldnt have pretenders and mates as assistant coaches.
Ask the players what they think of Wallace. mail is worse than SPUD


if this is true jack, the terry and miller should f off immediately, i have never liked miller , never, abd wallce i have given him a chance, but if the players really think thi sway, he and miller should get the f outta here

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Re: Sheedy Sacked: Now the Tiges are amongst the pigeons.
« Reply #301 on: July 25, 2007, 09:49:18 PM »
atm, rfc has no confidence
atm, rfc fans have no confidence
atm , rfc players dont have confidence

we have a feeling of doom and gloom again

enter sheedy, and we will have hope.

yes hop. whether or not we succeed is irrelevant at this stage, but hop eis important

with hope comes improvement

with hope comes momentum

with hope comes mores sponsors

sheedy at rfc as headcoach will mean 37k members plus


bye bye wallce, welcome kevin(as long as u stop barracking for the bombers)

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Re: Sheedy Sacked: Now the Tiges are amongst the pigeons.
« Reply #302 on: July 25, 2007, 09:50:52 PM »
another new 5 year plan, with crazy john running the sideshow.

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Re: Sheedy Sacked: Now the Tiges are amongst the pigeons.
« Reply #303 on: July 25, 2007, 10:14:57 PM »
Little secret here Blaisee
The deal with Sheeds was nearly over the line 3 years ago,
Just ask your friend Greg Miller who supported Wallace and not the ""BIG PICTURE""  This is fact.
If is wasnt for Miller, Sheeds would of been in his third year at Punt road and we wouldnt be on the bottom and we wouldnt have pretenders and mates as assistant coaches.
Ask the players what they think of Wallace. mail is worse than SPUD


OMG - 3 years ago - let me see what was I nearly doing 3 years ago ::)

Sorry Jack - seriously "nearly"s don't cut it. He was never coming back 3 years ago. The time for him was 1999  and he chose to stay in the comfy confines of Windy Hill. Not the poor unresourced tigers.

Now the Bombers have said bye bye - he wants to come back - pluuzzee.

That's what worries me.  Since when did a select group of ppl run this club?
What happened to the rest of us poor old long suffering folk, the ones that turn up to see the Richos of the world play their 250th game while your friends don't even bother?


Exactly - so true

The faceless people who think the RFC is theirs and theirs alone -  :banghead

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Re: Sheedy Sacked: Now the Tiges are amongst the pigeons.
« Reply #304 on: July 25, 2007, 10:19:01 PM »


bye bye wallce, welcome kevin(as long as u stop barracking for the bombers)


Struth xXx you give the term bandwagon jumper new meaning

One minute your on Tezza, then sheeds, back to tezza, then sheeds, then tezza now sheeds

 :rollin :rollin
« Last Edit: July 25, 2007, 10:51:05 PM by WilliamPowell »
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Re: Sheedy Sacked: Now the Tiges are amongst the pigeons.
« Reply #305 on: July 25, 2007, 10:20:56 PM »
what a joke!

Crazy john, give me a break. All he is is an attention grabbing media whore!
Like he would put in $5million ::)

Members neeed to relax and look at peoples track records

Sheedy has used richmond since he left, used them to get longer more lucrative contracts from the bombers. Now he will use the tigers again to try and stitch up another club...probably fremantle, where he will shaft mark harvey..his mate...

That is the sheedy way

pee off you old washed up fart

there is no way in hell Mr Crazy would part with $5 mill of his OWN money

No way
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Re: Sheedy Sacked: Now the Tiges are amongst the pigeons.
« Reply #306 on: July 25, 2007, 10:21:38 PM »


bye bye wallce, welcome kevin(as long as u stop barracking for the bombers)


Struth xXx you give the term bandwagon jumper new meaning

One minute your on Tezza, then sheeds, back to tezza, then sheeds, the tezza now sheeds

 :rollin :rollin

LMAO  :lol  :lol

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Re: Sheedy Sacked: Now the Tiges are amongst the pigeons.
« Reply #307 on: July 25, 2007, 10:22:26 PM »
if crazy john was a real richmond man he'd just hand over the cash  :banghead

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Re: Sheedy Sacked: Now the Tiges are amongst the pigeons.
« Reply #308 on: July 25, 2007, 10:27:30 PM »
if crazy john was a real richmond man he'd just hand over the cash  :banghead

What purpose would that serve to an egomaniac?

No publicty in that scenario
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Re: Sheeds' press conference complete with typos lol
« Reply #309 on: July 25, 2007, 10:31:56 PM »
Why the decision has been made – won’t comment on that.  What he will say is the board took the decision with 3 to 5 years in mind.  On paper, better performed than last year.  Bad luck last year and good luck this year.

If we’re looking at where we’re at, led very well by players like Hird, Fletcher, Mal Michael.  Lloyd came back.

The point about that is the youngest of those players is 29 years old.  The board sees the future of this playing list over the next 3 to 5 years, not a 1 to 2 year decision.
The reason why I'm afraid of Sheeds.  Not him or his coaching, just his propensity to make decisions to fill holes in a list with has beens a la Frawley.
And it's the reason they're getting rid of him.
When these players go from the Bombers, they're gonna make a nice hole in their list.  Surely Sheeds isn't that dumb he couldn't have looked into the future.
As the bloke said, he's being sacked for making 1 to 2 year decisions, not planning for sustained success.

Essendon's winning record since 2005 has been worse than even ours.

http://afl.allthestats.com/statistics/alltime.php?t2=&yrfm=2005&yrto=2007&gnd=0&inat=4&when=

But Sheeds is the master and Terzza is a dud.........

How can that be.............

 :help


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Re: Sheedy Sacked: Now the Tiges are amongst the pigeons.
« Reply #310 on: July 25, 2007, 10:37:48 PM »
Ah, its been ages since I post anything remotely constructive (is this?), but at this time, I thought it best to highlight what conumdrums the RFC face in the next six weeks.

Fact number 1.  We have our highest membership base, coupled with our worst ever on-field performance.  

Issue number 1.  This immediately puts pressure on membership retention, let alone recruitment in 2008, and also immediately puts pressure on sponsor retention and recruitment for 2008.

Solution number 1.  What is the quickest fix?  Get Sheeds to tigerland. (at this stage I am not suggesting coach).  You would get more members, and hopefully more sponsors in this scenario.

Fact number 2.  Our list is not going to be able to perform well until another 2 seasons of chopping and changing in regards to list management and player development.  We are too young (experience), many lack physical development, and need a few serious deficiencies in player types addressed.

Issue number 2.  Our recruitment has been average (but there are reasons e.g we had a financial deficit which we needed to overcome quickly.  Easiest way to achieve this in any business is reduce resources - worst scenario for us, was in recruitment).  But I think Miller and Wallace have done well in regards to list management of existing players - Moi has the current evidence of this in her posts.

Solution number 2.  I suggest we spend some cash in regards to recruitment and player development.  Sheedy would be the optimum person to head this up.  Heck, call him Director of recruitment/football.

Fact number 3 - Wallace is on a 5 year contract with 2 to go.  

Issue number 3 - We knew it was going to be a five year task, so why sack the coach after 3.  But, if what some others post here (and this has been hinted to me before  :shh)  the players are not following what Wallace wants as the gameplan, as they do not agree it works, or even understand it.  This is the big issue.  I know the players like Wallace, but there are problems with the execution of the gameplan.  To even suggest we are tanking is wrong.  Currently the players are not as experienced or skillful enough to play the way Wallace wants them to.

Solution number 3.  All eyes are on the relationship between the players and the coaching staff.  If there are problems, then take away some of Terry's role to concentrate on the execution of a better game plan.  If Terry does not agree with this, then Terry will come under scrutiny.  Bring in Sheeds to deal with the "other" things like recruitment, coaching development of assistants, football issues, then we have more experienced people to execute a better gameplan with the cattle we currently have, and those we need to recruit.  It gets the players back on board, which are the guys ultimately responsible for our on field performance.

So in summary, I think RFC should definitely get Sheeds on board in some significant capacity, for the financial upside a Richmond prodigal son returning home would achieve.  I would suggest Director of Football, with an influence on the match committee and recruitment.  Terry should be given the opportunity to complete the 5 year plan, and then we reassess.  Can Miller, Wallace and Sheedy all work under the one roof?  Would love it to happen, but its highly doubtful.  

Just my thoughts here, and I think we need to take this course of action for the RFC, and then egos can settle afterwards.  Good luck to Gary March to hold all this together.

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Re: Sheedy Sacked: Now the Tiges are amongst the pigeons.
« Reply #311 on: July 25, 2007, 11:00:49 PM »
SEN just said Damien Barrett has an article in tomorrow's Herald-Sun about the push to get Sheeds to Tigerland. You've got to love how the media are influencing these coach sackings. Put pressure on a club until they cave in ::).
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Re: Sheedy Sacked: Now the Tiges are amongst the pigeons.
« Reply #312 on: July 25, 2007, 11:06:26 PM »
The media do run the show, MT
There will be a huge push to get Sheeds to Richmond from them.  Not because it's good for Richmond, but it will sell their papers.

And as for Mr Barrett, I responded to him re his article last week - funny it didn't get put up on their site!

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Kevin Sheedy into Tiger fold / Richmond keen on Sheeds but not as coach.
« Reply #313 on: July 26, 2007, 03:10:50 AM »
Kevin Sheedy into Tiger fold
Herald-Sun Damian Barrett
July 26, 2007 12:00am

THE Kevin Sheedy-to-Richmond push has been reignited after the veteran coach's exit from Essendon.

While Terry Wallace is contracted as Tigers coach until the end of 2009, immense pressure to have Sheedy return to his original football home is expected to fall on the club in coming weeks.

Richmond president Gary March yesterday ruled out Sheedy returning as coach during Wallace's contract.

But some Tigers greats urged the club to consider all options to bring Sheedy back into the fold, and adding to the intrigue was Fremantle president Rick Hart saying his club would consider Sheedy for its vacant coaching position.

Another Hart - Royce, a teammate of Sheedy's in the Richmond Team of the Century - said a Punt Rd return for Sheedy was "food for thought".

"They've only won one game (this year), haven't they," Royce Hart said.

"It is an interesting situation. I don't know, in some capacity, maybe it is the way to go.

"It would be good for the club if he did come back, to have another ex-Richmond person there, and it is not just his coaching.

"I could probably sum it up by saying it is food for thought."

March said Sheedy's availability, after 27 seasons as Essendon coach, would not sway his board.

"In a football sense, there is no lure to get Kevin back to Richmond," March said.

"In a non-football sense, sure, we would be stupid not to look at it because he is a great football person and has a great history with our club and Essendon.

"Would he be a great ambassador for our club? Sure he would. And if we can get him back in some other capacity, yes, but not in a football sense."

March said the Tigers' football plans for 2008 and 2009 would not be moulded to include Sheedy, who played 251 matches and in three premierships with the Tigers.

"Most definitely (Wallace's contract will be honoured)," March said.

 "We don't see a football role for Kevin because we have already set our path for next year with other recruitments we have got to do and we have started that process.

"So, we would have to turn it on its head and we are not prepared to do that.

"I can tell you that absolutely, categorically.

"The board met last night, we won't meet again till the next scheduled one (in late August)."

Another Tiger Team of the Century member Bill Barrot, along with club stalwarts Mal Brown and Tony Jewell, also added his weight to have Sheedy involved at Punt Rd.

"Obviously Terry is there, but my feeling would be he would be welcome at Richmond with open arms, and I don't know if that should be next year or the following year," Barrot said.

"Enthusiasm can come and go, it all depends if it is lasting, and Kevin has proved his is lasting."

Fremantle boss Rick Hart said Sheedy would be discussed by his board and even loomed as part of a possible double-act coaching set-up alongside his former assistant Mark Harvey.

"With Kevin's name now in the air, you would certainly have to look at it, have to consider talking to him," Hart said.

"We have already said we are looking down the line of the merit in considering a dual coach set-up and that is something we will also consider."

Brown said:

"He would be very handy for Richmond with his recruiting and his marketability, he would lift the income to another level.

"He could be director of football or football manager, taking the overall big picture of the game."

Jewell said:

"To bring him back in some role is fine but to bring him back as coach is another thing altogether. You would certainly try to entice him back in some meaningful way."

Should Sheedy fail to find a football coaching or director role next year, the AFL will employ him under its game development portfolio.

AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou said:

"His work has been invaluable and football owes him a great debt of gratitude."

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22135344-11088,00.html

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Richmond keen on Sheeds but not as coach (AAP)
« Reply #314 on: July 26, 2007, 03:12:55 AM »
Richmond keen to chat to Sheedy
July 25, 2007 - 6:25PM
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Richmond president Gary March will contact Kevin Sheedy about a possible return to the Tigers, but not as senior coach.

With the Tigers currently rooted to the bottom of the ladder, the pressure on incumbent coach Terry Wallace was expected to increase after Essendon sacked Kevin Sheedy after 27 years at the helm.

As a 251-game, triple-premiership star at the Tigers, Sheedy has long been linked with a return to Punt Rd.

March said that Sheedy, 59, would be considered for an ambassadorial role, a marketing position or even a seat on the Richmond board.

Everything it seems except the job of head coach.

"We've got a contracted coach for two more years, most of our assistant coaches are all contracted for at least another year or two and we've got a contracted director of football," March told AAP.

"So there's no real roles for Kevin in football at our club, in the forseeable future, but is there a role for him back at Richmond? Maybe in a non-football sense."

March said the club would make contact with Sheedy, but only when Essendon's season was over.

"Given that he is a Richmond legend, at some stage the club will definitely have a chat to him about what his future plans are," March said.

"It's not inconceivable that Kevin himself could become a president of a football club.

"I reckon there's a multitude of roles that our club, Essendon, or even the AFL could use Kevin Sheedy for."

March said the Richmond board had "no issues" with Wallace, whose team has slipped badly on the field after respectable mid-table finishes in the previous two years.

"Obviously we're really disappointed about the season that we've had and Terry is under pressure because of our performances but so are myself and everyone at the football because, as a club, have performed below expectations this year," March said.

"Terry doesn't need any reassurance from me, we've got a really healthy working relationship.

"I know exactly where he's at with his coaching at the moment and where the list's at."

"Not Kevin, not Denis (Pagan), not because of Chris Connolly or Neale Daniher.

"We're not in the market for a senior coach like those clubs were."

http://news.realfooty.com.au/richmond-keen-to-chat-to-sheedy/20073925-pqg.html