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Re: Sheedy set to return to Punt Rd
« Reply #675 on: October 21, 2008, 03:06:56 PM »
What happens if we are 2 & 5 after 7 rounds?

Does March sack Wallace and elevate Campbell with Sheedy in a mentoring role? Then Jack looks pretty right on the money, if 12 months late.
He's three years late  :rollin
Jack said Sheeds was going to coach.
What is it, Sheeds or Campbell?
Neither, I hope  :banghead

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Re: Sheedy set to return to Punt Rd
« Reply #676 on: October 21, 2008, 03:09:53 PM »
What happens if we are 2 & 5 after 7 rounds?

Does March sack Wallace and elevate Campbell with Sheedy in a mentoring role? Then Jack looks pretty right on the money, if 12 months late.
He's three years late  :rollin
Jack said Sheeds was going to coach.
What is it, Sheeds or Campbell?
Neither, I hope  :banghead

If Wallace is replaced in 2009/2010 whoever gets the gig is just going to get a ride based on Wallace and his list managements team work anyway.

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Re: Sheedy set to return to Punt Rd
« Reply #677 on: October 21, 2008, 03:11:02 PM »
What happens if we are 2 & 5 after 7 rounds?

Does March sack Wallace and elevate Campbell with Sheedy in a mentoring role? Then Jack looks pretty right on the money, if 12 months late.

100% correct.

lose to the blues and its curtains for mr Solarium id say with cats to follow
What I find extremely sad is people like you would be hoping we lose our first games in order for that scenario to occur.
That's pretty sad!

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Re: Sheedy set to return to Punt Rd
« Reply #678 on: October 21, 2008, 03:22:40 PM »
What happens if we are 2 & 5 after 7 rounds?

Does March sack Wallace and elevate Campbell with Sheedy in a mentoring role? Then Jack looks pretty right on the money, if 12 months late.

100% correct.

lose to the blues and its curtains for mr Solarium id say with cats to follow
What I find extremely sad is people like you would be hoping we lose our first games in order for that scenario to occur.
That's pretty sad!

if thats what u think ur the one is sad and dellusional.

I have yellow and black running through my veins so next time think before you make a comment like that.

i dont like TW and that is a fact but if we make finals consistently i would be the first to admit i got it wrong
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Re: Sheedy set to return to Punt Rd
« Reply #679 on: October 21, 2008, 03:25:40 PM »
March said Sheeds is coming back on a part time basis. The club would like it to become eventually full time.

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Re: Kevin Sheedy back with Tigers (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #680 on: October 21, 2008, 05:18:15 PM »
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"I think most people, including Kevin, realise he's not going to coach again, so I think any nervousness at clubs about Kevin coming back and being a coach is gone by the wayside."
Those that wanted and predicted Sheeds back as coach will be in tears lol.

I'm happy Sheeds is going to be involved in boosting membership and marketing of the club as it is a role that will suit him and benefit the club at the same time. However the media are going overboard about him keeping a promise to return someday. If Sheeds wasn't sacked by Essendon and rejected by other clubs like Melbourne he'd still be coaching away from Punt Rd.
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Re: Sheedy set to return to Punt Rd
« Reply #681 on: October 21, 2008, 05:35:07 PM »

I have yellow and black running through my veins


Have u seen a doctor ?

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Re: Sheedy set to return to Punt Rd
« Reply #682 on: October 21, 2008, 06:25:55 PM »
Kinda funny how it was reported that March wanted more Richmond people back at the club, then publically said that he wanted the best people available, not just the best Richmond people
Yet his last three appointments have been Free, Campbell & Sheedy... all ex-Richmond men

Either the only people who'll consider coming to the club are ex-Richmond people, or the reports were right from the start. Sheedy is a legend and a great mind, but he's borderline senile now. Free & Campbell are both from highly unsuccessful periods of the club, they hardly understand a premiership environment.

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Re: Sheedy set to return to Punt Rd
« Reply #683 on: October 21, 2008, 07:24:01 PM »
Cambo and Sheeds at least have experience in the roles they have been employed in. Freezer is an L-plater as far as a board position and clearly was a token "Richmond person" appointment.
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Re: Sheedy set to return to Punt Rd
« Reply #684 on: October 21, 2008, 10:39:46 PM »
Well I think its good that we are looking at ways of improving the club with pasionate Tiger people instead of crap like Spud Walls etc. Who knows if we keep going this way we might just have something to be proud of!

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Kevin Sheedy's spectre pressures Terry Wallace (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #685 on: October 22, 2008, 03:50:17 AM »
Kevin Sheedy's spectre pressures Terry Wallace
Mark Robinson | October 22, 2008

THE threat to Terry Wallace, if one was to eventuate, was expected to come from a "wannabe" coach 25 years younger than Kevin Sheedy.

Not initially from the coaching icon who, despite his own misgivings about resurrecting one of the great coaching careers, is still yet to categorically rule out a return to the caper.

In countless appearances on stage, on TV and behind microphones – and in far-flung towns such as Tuggeranong, ACT, where Sheedy on Monday night addressed 150 sports coaches – he has avoided absolute closure.

Will you coach again?, he is often asked. "I would think not," he has often answered.

True, he is at Barbaricus-like odds. Probably longer. But Sheedy, like another discarded warrior in Denis Pagan, can never say never.

Telephoned on Monday, just hours after meeting with Richmond about a high-profile position off-field, which Sheedy is almost certain to agree to, he didn't want to discuss football, let alone a coaching role, or at the very least a football mentoring role.

"I'm in Blumfield territory," he said. "In the valley.

"Two AFL players have come from Tuggeranong. Blumfield and . . .?"

Hmmm.

"Went from Carlton to St Kilda. Looked like Superman. Come on . . ."

Never let it be said Sheedy has lost – or will ever lose – his zest for the game.

In all likelihood – arrived at by combining common sense with the direction of the game, particularly coaching and it being a younger man's domain – Sheedy won't coach again.

Certainly, Tigers president Gary March doesn't think so, and that is significant.

"I think most people, including Kevin, realise he's not going to coach again, so I think any nervousness at clubs about Kevin coming back and being a coach is gone by the wayside," he said.

So is Wallace nervous?

Probably not, but can't help wonder what he honestly thinks of the Sheedy appointment, remembering Sheedy famously once accused him of playing that "basketball crap".

Wallace is a realist.

Pressure drapes over him like a summer willow as he prepares for his fifth year at Tigerland and 12th year coaching overall.

If it wasn't Sheedy and the shadow that he casts, it would have been from someone or somewhere else.

For Wallace, it would appear finals are a necessity – and a surging finals spot at that – and if by Round 12 the season is stuttering, so will be the coach.

The AFL draw, to be released to the public on Friday, will be telling.

If Richmond is unlucky and faces, say, the Hawks twice, Geelong twice, Brisbane, Sydney and Adelaide away in the first 10 games, Wallace could have the sharks circling by mid-year, the time March has said the coach's future would be discussed.

On the flip side, if he is 9-3 then a lot of precious paper has been wasted on this debate. He will go around again and deservedly so.

Unquestionably, changes are engulfing the Tigers.

Wallace has lost loyal colleagues Greg Miller and Paul Armstrong, his support structure eroded by March's drive for fresh faces.

And with new assistant coach Wayne Campbell – who also has strong support from the president – and Sheedy in whatever capacity, it is foolish not to suggest a replacement is ready and willing if Wallace fails.

Then there's Nathan Buckley.

The Collingwood champ will decide midway through next year where his future lies and at which club.

Before Campbell's appointment – and perhaps even Sheedy's – Richmond and Buckley wasn't an entirely ridiculous union.

Buckley will be offered a position at Collingwood by Eddie McGuire – as senior or assistant coach – but several other coaches are also coming out of contract.

They are at the Western Bulldogs, St Kilda, maybe the Kangaroos, Port Adelaide and, of course, the Tigers.

He will go somewhere, Bucks, and if he rails against Collingwood in preference for a new frontier, pity the club that ignores him.

Wallace, Sheedy, Campbell, Buckley . . . there are certainly interesting times ahead at Punt Rd.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24531516-19742,00.html

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Re: Kevin Sheedy's spectre pressures Terry Wallace (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #686 on: October 22, 2008, 03:52:36 AM »
The Herald-Sun is pushing this on their forum too  ::)

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The spectre of Kevin Sheedy looks like it will loom large at Punt Rd this year, but what does that mean for Terry Wallace?

Last year of a contract, largely unproven list, finals or your out and the AFL's longest-serving coach looking over your shoulder. Can't be comfortable for him.

Is this a distraction and pressure you Tiger fans welcome, or do you reckon it's going to do more harm than good?

Any does anyone actually want Sheeds coaching the Tigers in 2010, if not earlier?

http://superfootyforum.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=431

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Re: Kevin Sheedy's spectre pressures Terry Wallace (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #687 on: October 22, 2008, 04:32:22 AM »
The Herald-Sun is pushing this on their forum too  ::)

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The spectre of Kevin Sheedy looks like it will loom large at Punt Rd this year, but what does that mean for Terry Wallace?

Last year of a contract, largely unproven list, finals or your out and the AFL's longest-serving coach looking over your shoulder. Can't be comfortable for him.

Is this a distraction and pressure you Tiger fans welcome, or do you reckon it's going to do more harm than good?

Any does anyone actually want Sheeds coaching the Tigers in 2010, if not earlier?

http://superfootyforum.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=431
The media is playing their part, as predictable.
Just part of the Sheedy propaganda machine
But so are Richmond supporters.  Going on what I've read on boards in the last couple of days, the romantic Tiger supporters are fuelling the Sheeds back to coach the Tiges as well
No matter what, Wallace will feel the pressure with Sheeds in the background
I wonder if the roles were reversed, if Sheeds would like a scenario like that.
I very much doubt it.

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Re: Kevin Sheedy's spectre pressures Terry Wallace (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #688 on: October 22, 2008, 09:28:02 AM »
It must be tough for football journalist at this time of year. Even more than usual you have to try and create stories out of thin air which have no factual crediance at all yet attempt to make it sound like there could be an element of truth behind your words.

This story is an obvious ploy to spark speculation and increase the pressure on TW before the season even begins.

Sheedy has no realistic chance nor any probable interest in coaching the Tigers. He would not have been employed if this was the case. In fact the club has insured there is no opportunity for interference by offering a job outside the football department. It has been reported that Sheedy would not have accepted a job inside the football department any how because he wants to insure that he is there to help, not hinder, the club.

Mark Robinson is a fanatical Essesndon supporter and his motives for this article are therefore multi-layed.

Firstly, Sheedy WAS Essendon for over a quarter of a century and Robinson doesn't want this appointment to be seen as a positive for the Tigers or a slight on the Bombers so he is attempting to paint it in a negative light.

Secondly, Robinson does not like the Tigers and fears any future success they may have over his club. Any instability he can assist in generating at the club which could effect their on-field performance he is more than willing to create.

Thirdly, TW is a consistent and reliable target during slow times. Unfortunately this easy story is coming to an end. If TW and the Tigers have success this year then the journalists will not be able to generate the usual pack frenzie and short-sighted mob mentality to have him sacked and therefore give the papers an abundance of material to write and sell in their papers. Conversely, if he is sacked then the articles on TW stop regardless.

Lastly, there is nothing to write about at this time of the year so....make something up on a topic that is a proven paper seller - Richmond Coach sackings!


For all our sakes I hope we have a good season this year so we can see the end of this sort of article for a long time!

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Re: Kevin Sheedy's spectre pressures Terry Wallace (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #689 on: October 22, 2008, 10:30:08 AM »
With our club history of coaches I am sure Wallace was under no illusions on his job security when he joined us four years ago.

I don't think having ex-coaches and potential coaches readily visible will make a big difference to Wallace.  He basically has always known at this stage of his contract after the rebuilding phase he had to have onfield success or he was gone.

As said before media hype and romantic supporters.