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Re: SHEEDY HAS TO BE OUR NEXT COACH
« Reply #765 on: May 23, 2009, 04:18:41 PM »
Three words to this thread.... Oh my God!!!
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Re: SHEEDY HAS TO BE OUR NEXT COACH
« Reply #766 on: May 23, 2009, 07:27:21 PM »

Sheeds isn't the answer. His time is has passed and age has nothing to do with it.

It does have to do with age though. Sheeds is 62 this year. If the timeline for rebuilding is based on Geelong's, he'd be near enough 70 by the time a shot at a premiership came around. You have to wonder whether someone really wants to wait it out that long. It would be completely understandable if they wanted success sooner than that, too soon.

There is always the soccer argument where you have the likes of Alex Ferguson still coaching. But these guys basically coach and coach because they are still successful. Sheeds hasn't been succesful for 10 years, and unlike soccer where there are 3,4,5 trophies on offer a season in the AFL it is everyone going for the same prize. I'd like to know of a respected soccer coach > 60 who hasn't won anything for 10 years. The motivation just doesn't stick around.

In the NFL a couple of years back there was a sea change of younger coaches replacing a generation of older ones too.

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Re: SHEEDY HAS TO BE OUR NEXT COACH
« Reply #767 on: May 23, 2009, 11:41:12 PM »
After 30 years you would think people would realise there is no single one messiah to turnaround the Club. Sheeds' coaching days are over anyway. If they weren't he'd be still coaching Essendon. Even Melbourne knocked him back for Dean Bailey.


WTF? You were touting Miller as the messiah not too long ago.

Or was that WP? Cant tell the difference between you guys these days. You've been married too long

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Re: SHEEDY HAS TO BE OUR NEXT COACH
« Reply #768 on: May 23, 2009, 11:43:38 PM »

Sheeds isn't the answer. His time is has passed and age has nothing to do with it.

It does have to do with age though. Sheeds is 62 this year. If the timeline for rebuilding is based on Geelong's, he'd be near enough 70 by the time a shot at a premiership came around. You have to wonder whether someone really wants to wait it out that long. It would be completely understandable if they wanted success sooner than that, too soon.

There is always the soccer argument where you have the likes of Alex Ferguson still coaching. But these guys basically coach and coach because they are still successful. Sheeds hasn't been succesful for 10 years, and unlike soccer where there are 3,4,5 trophies on offer a season in the AFL it is everyone going for the same prize. I'd like to know of a respected soccer coach > 60 who hasn't won anything for 10 years. The motivation just doesn't stick around.

In the NFL a couple of years back there was a sea change of younger coaches replacing a generation of older ones too.

Ferguson is also a one club man. Stick him into the job at Newcastle and lets see what his coaching record will look like

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Re: SHEEDY HAS TO BE OUR NEXT COACH
« Reply #769 on: May 23, 2009, 11:51:55 PM »
After 30 years you would think people would realise there is no single one messiah to turnaround the Club. Sheeds' coaching days are over anyway. If they weren't he'd be still coaching Essendon. Even Melbourne knocked him back for Dean Bailey.


WTF? You were touting Miller as the messiah not too long ago.

Or was that WP? Cant tell the difference between you guys these days. You've been married too long

Miller , yet another clown

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Re: SHEEDY HAS TO BE OUR NEXT COACH
« Reply #770 on: May 23, 2009, 11:59:28 PM »

Sheeds isn't the answer. His time is has passed and age has nothing to do with it.

It does have to do with age though. Sheeds is 62 this year. If the timeline for rebuilding is based on Geelong's, he'd be near enough 70 by the time a shot at a premiership came around. You have to wonder whether someone really wants to wait it out that long. It would be completely understandable if they wanted success sooner than that, too soon.

There is always the soccer argument where you have the likes of Alex Ferguson still coaching. But these guys basically coach and coach because they are still successful. Sheeds hasn't been succesful for 10 years, and unlike soccer where there are 3,4,5 trophies on offer a season in the AFL it is everyone going for the same prize. I'd like to know of a respected soccer coach > 60 who hasn't won anything for 10 years. The motivation just doesn't stick around.

In the NFL a couple of years back there was a sea change of younger coaches replacing a generation of older ones too.

Ferguson is also a one club man. Stick him into the job at Newcastle and lets see what his coaching record will look like


He came to Man United in 1986 when they had not won a title in 19 years and were struggling in the mid to lower table. By 1991 they had won the FA Cup, League Cup and European Cup Winners Cup and European Super Cup. By 1993 he won the league and then reinvented the squad with home grown talent by 1996 that went on to win a double and eventually the Champions League in 1999. Ferguson would do wonders at Newcastle as he would get rid of the board room crap that has left them with no domestic silverware since 1927 and get the team playing team soccer not individualistic soccer which could see them relegated this time tomorrow night, but I can see the parrallels with Newcastle and Richmond and the aura of both clubs and the way they forever disappoint their fans.

By the way Malthouse should be our next coach. Not Sheedy.

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Re: SHEEDY HAS TO BE OUR NEXT COACH
« Reply #771 on: May 24, 2009, 12:05:23 AM »
After 30 years you would think people would realise there is no single one messiah to turnaround the Club. Sheeds' coaching days are over anyway. If they weren't he'd be still coaching Essendon. Even Melbourne knocked him back for Dean Bailey.


WTF? You were touting Miller as the messiah not too long ago.

Or was that WP? Cant tell the difference between you guys these days. You've been married too long


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Re: SHEEDY HAS TO BE OUR NEXT COACH
« Reply #772 on: May 24, 2009, 12:06:43 AM »

Sheeds isn't the answer. His time is has passed and age has nothing to do with it.

It does have to do with age though. Sheeds is 62 this year. If the timeline for rebuilding is based on Geelong's, he'd be near enough 70 by the time a shot at a premiership came around. You have to wonder whether someone really wants to wait it out that long. It would be completely understandable if they wanted success sooner than that, too soon.

There is always the soccer argument where you have the likes of Alex Ferguson still coaching. But these guys basically coach and coach because they are still successful. Sheeds hasn't been succesful for 10 years, and unlike soccer where there are 3,4,5 trophies on offer a season in the AFL it is everyone going for the same prize. I'd like to know of a respected soccer coach > 60 who hasn't won anything for 10 years. The motivation just doesn't stick around.

In the NFL a couple of years back there was a sea change of younger coaches replacing a generation of older ones too.

Ferguson is also a one club man. Stick him into the job at Newcastle and lets see what his coaching record will look like


He came to Man United in 1986 when they had not won a title in 19 years and were struggling in the mid to lower table. By 1991 they had won the FA Cup, League Cup and European Cup Winners Cup and European Super Cup. By 1993 he won the league and then reinvented the squad with home grown talent by 1996 that went on to win a double and eventually the Champions League in 1999. Ferguson would do wonders at Newcastle as he would get rid of the board room crap that has left them with no domestic silverware since 1927 and get the team playing team soccer not individualistic soccer which could see them relegated this time tomorrow night, but I can see the parrallels with Newcastle and Richmond and the aura of both clubs and the way they forever disappoint their fans.

By the way Malthouse should be our next coach. Not Sheedy.

Are you agreeing or disagreeing with me?

He was a young man when he went to Utd and it took him 7 years to win a title. As a 67 year old he would struggle to make another club a success, especially one at the other end of the table. Its a good comparison for Sheedy



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Re: SHEEDY HAS TO BE OUR NEXT COACH
« Reply #773 on: May 24, 2009, 12:11:26 AM »
Why do we have to settle for coaches after they've passed their peak?
Sheedy & Malthouse haven't won anything in over what 9 years now, RFC shouldn't be a retirement village where coaches come to boost their super fund

Time for a highly credentialled young assistant who has no Richmond connections, pulls no punches and comes from recent success in modern football. I just hope the process to hire him is comprehensive and doesn't end up like our attempt to head hunt our new Football Manager. That will just mean a new internal promotion and our club may as well just shut up shop then.

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Re: SHEEDY HAS TO BE OUR NEXT COACH
« Reply #774 on: May 24, 2009, 12:18:39 AM »

Sheeds isn't the answer. His time is has passed and age has nothing to do with it.

It does have to do with age though. Sheeds is 62 this year. If the timeline for rebuilding is based on Geelong's, he'd be near enough 70 by the time a shot at a premiership came around. You have to wonder whether someone really wants to wait it out that long. It would be completely understandable if they wanted success sooner than that, too soon.

There is always the soccer argument where you have the likes of Alex Ferguson still coaching. But these guys basically coach and coach because they are still successful. Sheeds hasn't been succesful for 10 years, and unlike soccer where there are 3,4,5 trophies on offer a season in the AFL it is everyone going for the same prize. I'd like to know of a respected soccer coach > 60 who hasn't won anything for 10 years. The motivation just doesn't stick around.

In the NFL a couple of years back there was a sea change of younger coaches replacing a generation of older ones too.

Ferguson is also a one club man. Stick him into the job at Newcastle and lets see what his coaching record will look like


He came to Man United in 1986 when they had not won a title in 19 years and were struggling in the mid to lower table. By 1991 they had won the FA Cup, League Cup and European Cup Winners Cup and European Super Cup. By 1993 he won the league and then reinvented the squad with home grown talent by 1996 that went on to win a double and eventually the Champions League in 1999. Ferguson would do wonders at Newcastle as he would get rid of the board room crap that has left them with no domestic silverware since 1927 and get the team playing team soccer not individualistic soccer which could see them relegated this time tomorrow night, but I can see the parrallels with Newcastle and Richmond and the aura of both clubs and the way they forever disappoint their fans.

By the way Malthouse should be our next coach. Not Sheedy.

Are you agreeing or disagreeing with me?

He was a young man when he went to Utd and it took him 7 years to win a title. As a 67 year old he would struggle to make another club a success, especially one at the other end of the table. Its a good comparison for Sheedy




Agreeing  :thumbsup
Got caught up in the comparison but you are right. Sheeds will have had 3 seasons out of the game. Although Bobby Robson recently was in his 70's and coaching Newcastle. Nevertheless you raise some clear and valid points. :cheers

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Sheedy right for Tigers - Watson (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #775 on: May 25, 2009, 09:48:49 PM »
Sheedy right for Tigers - Watson
Finn Bradshaw | May 25, 2009 12:15pm

TIM Watson has called for Richmond to appoint Kevin Sheedy as coach for the rest of the season.

Watson – who played under Sheedy at Essendon – said on his radio show on SEN that the Tigers needed the combination of experience and marketing nous that the former Bombers coach could deliver.

“Richmond now, in my opinion, should be talking to Kevin Sheedy,” the former Saints coach said.

“He’s in marketing (Sheedy is employed by the Tigers in a marketing role). This is now a marketing exercise. (Richmond should) convince him to take the job for the rest of the year.

“The club needs a big Richmond figure involved. They won’t win the flag this year, probably won’t make the finals. They need to be stabilised and need to be energised. Sheedy can do that. He can coach for their future. He will draw a line in the sand, I know the bloke, and he will have the respect of everyone at that footy club.”

Should Richmond appoint Sheedy? Have your say below.

Watson said it was clear that Wallace’s time at the club was nearing its end, and Richmond needed to act now.

“Richmond needs to do an about face. Forget the mid-year review. Terry’s time at the Richmond footy club is finished. He wears it, it’s etched on his face. It’s etched on the players’ body language. That’s sad for Terry, sad for his family, sad for everyone involved in the Wallace family, but that is the business of AFL coaching.”

Wallace is in the final year of a five-year contract and had come under increasing pressure after the Tigers stared the season 1-8 and sit 15th on the ladder.

The club has maintained throughout the season it would not make a decision on Wallace’s future until it had completed a review at the mid-year mark.

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25533995-5016212,00.html

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Re: SHEEDY HAS TO BE OUR NEXT COACH
« Reply #776 on: May 25, 2009, 09:54:27 PM »
Oh dear - Sheeds is not the answer in the coaches box for RFC.

15 years ago after Northey move on yes - but not now.

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Re: SHEEDY HAS TO BE OUR NEXT COACH
« Reply #777 on: May 25, 2009, 10:03:48 PM »
sheedy's time was up at ESS yes, after 27 yrs , it's reasonable to suggest the chap could be up for a new challenge :-\...and for those quick to slander the carcu of a playing list he left...well here this folks...they're 5-4 with .90% of the team recruited during sheeds time... so stick that in your pipes and smoke it... ???
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Re: SHEEDY HAS TO BE OUR NEXT COACH
« Reply #778 on: May 25, 2009, 10:26:44 PM »
Gee it didn't take long for this crap to re-surface did it. Lets start a new one off....... Ronald McDonald for coach, we may as well look at him if we even contemplate Sheedy... ::)
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Re: SHEEDY HAS TO BE OUR NEXT COACH
« Reply #779 on: May 25, 2009, 11:01:10 PM »
Watson knows all about being replaced mid-season by a premiership coach  ;D

My memory is hazy, but wasn't Blight on the radar well before Watson got the boot? If so, maybe Watson needs to show a bit more class.