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froars

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Re: Proposed email to Greg Miller
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2004, 11:35:13 AM »
Who would you put in his place OM21?  You must have an alternative.

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Re: Proposed email to Greg Miller
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2004, 11:45:41 AM »
I'm with OM21.

If Miller wants to be there for the RFC then I will support him.  If he wants to be there for Greg Miller then he knows where the door is.

I wasn't impressed with his email stunt.  Sounded too desperate for my liking and didn't make him appear as the professional that he's supposed to be.

If he is such a professional then he doesn't need fan letters.

Brisbane won 3 flags in a row without Millers help.
« Last Edit: July 29, 2004, 12:15:57 PM by Harry Hedgehog »
Does anyone have half an idea on anything?

froars

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Re: Proposed email to Greg Miller
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2004, 11:50:46 AM »
Whatever Harry.  I'm sure Greg knows there's people who don't support him.
And personally, i don't care if he's there for himself or the club - i think both go hand in hand when you're aiming for success.  As long as he gets the job done.

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Re: Proposed email to Greg Miller
« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2004, 12:22:20 PM »
Millers heart is in the job, he wants to make it work.

Do you think he didnt know that Pahoff would post his letter on PRE, Miller is a very smart operator and is the man WE NEED to get us back to the top and become a force in the AFL once again.

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Re: Proposed email to Greg Miller
« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2004, 12:48:55 PM »
I’m with you Bullus.  Miller knew exactly what he was doing.  Pahoff seems to have made everything else he was doing public knowledge.  So he would’ve at least half expected what would happen to his letter.

Even if he didn’t expect that it would be posted in full, he had to know that the contents would be made public, to some degree.

Yesterday, Pahoff tried to justify his actions by saying that he was damned if he did and damned if he didn’t post the letter.  Because if he didn’t post it he could be accused of a lack of transparency, which is what he’s accusing the current Board of.  And that Miller had made a sneaky chess move by sending the letter to him.

Don’t ask me, that’s something like what he said.
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Re: Proposed email to Greg Miller
« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2004, 01:27:50 PM »
Did I hear mention of pahoff being Transparent?!!?

Please!

Miller is the man for the job! Have faith people!

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Re: Proposed email to Greg Miller
« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2004, 01:40:18 PM »
What smart move by Miller.

All he did was threaten to leave because it was getting a bit too much for him.

Members have a right to ask questions, have a right to demand accountability and transperancy, have a right to call an EGM within the constitution.

Millers email was a bit childish and unprofessional.  It smacked on emotional blackmail which really didn't earn him much respect in my books.

I will still support him and hope he can improve the club but a few things have not impressed me so far.

1) Telling the supporters from day one to pull their heads in and be paid up
2) Extending Frawley's contract and insisting he is a good coach
3) Recruiting excessive mid aged duds during his time - Fletcher, Nicholls, Shir, Pickering, Fletcher, Weller, Morrison, Marsh (that's only in 2 years)
4) Selling our souls in the form of early draft picks for Johnson and Brown in the search of intant success.  The performances of the past 2 years proved he was way off the mark in terms of expecting these players to instantly improve the team.
5) His recent email stunt attempting to emotionally blackmail the richmond members in an attempt to save his and Caseys positions.
Does anyone have half an idea on anything?

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Re: Proposed email to Greg Miller
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2004, 02:03:40 PM »
Miller is s lot smarter that Phoff Harry.

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Re: Proposed email to Greg Miller
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2004, 02:04:49 PM »

I will still support him and hope he can improve the club but a few things have not impressed me so far.

1) Telling the supporters from day one to pull their heads in and be paid up
2) Extending Frawley's contract and insisting he is a good coach
3) Recruiting excessive mid aged duds during his time - Fletcher, Nicholls, Shir, Pickering, Fletcher, Weller, Morrison, Marsh (that's only in 2 years)
4) Selling our souls in the form of early draft picks for Johnson and Brown in the search of intant success.  The performances of the past 2 years proved he was way off the mark in terms of expecting these players to instantly improve the team.
5) His recent email stunt attempting to emotionally blackmail the richmond members in an attempt to save his and Caseys positions.

I'm with the Hedgehog, he's the best man for the job, but he shouldnt be given a license to kill.

Miller is not going to save RFC all by himself. And he's not shown me that he wants to bring in the best ppl available around the AFL in the football dept. He made absolutely no effort to talk to Sheeds whilst the opportunity was there.

Promoting Hutchison as football manager? WTF!!!

Recruiting Brittain as midfield coach? WTF!!!

His recruiting is not flawless either. Everyone talks about kids who are playing their footy at Coburg and are 2-3 years away before we can decide whether we've unearthed another Coughlan. What about Blumfeld, another so called Miller coup?

Isnt Greg Beck still there?

He's not the messiah. You need 3 Miller types to in the football dept (coach, manager and recruitment) to make it successful. And Miller's making sure he's the only one.








froars

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Re: Proposed email to Greg Miller
« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2004, 02:38:49 PM »
Stop boring this thread with credible facts boys lol
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Re: Proposed email to Greg Miller
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2004, 02:39:35 PM »
I think you will find that the wayne brittain decision was not made by him.

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Re: Proposed email to Greg Miller
« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2004, 02:43:37 PM »
No, i like Miller.  I got to, because there's no-one else.  But i admit some of the things you said:

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3) Recruiting excessive mid aged duds during his time - Fletcher, Nicholls, Shir, Pickering, Fletcher, Weller, Morrison, Marsh (that's only in 2 years)
4) Selling our souls in the form of early draft picks for Johnson and Brown in the search of intant success.  The performances of the past 2 years proved he was way off the mark in terms of expecting these players to instantly improve the team.

I've been arguing the same case for a while.

But the Pahloff letter was a personal letter and one that we shouldn't even be discussing becasue it should have remained quiet.  pahloff could have been open and said he received a letter from Miller and maybe paraphrased it a bit.  Don't think Miller's private thoughts should have been put for the world to see.

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Re: Proposed email to Greg Miller
« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2004, 02:46:25 PM »
It seems alot of supporters are bagging Greg Miller, but at the same time endorsing Terry Wallace who i think we all should be sceptical of in my opinion.
Granted he might have done some good for the bulldogs, i;m not sure he is the answer to our coaching position at this stage, mind you i could be wrong.
I will Greg  Miller 1 thing he has a passion to get things right at the tigers, and i;m sure there will be mistakes made along the way, he did state it would not be a quick fix.

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Re: Proposed email to Greg Miller
« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2004, 03:09:17 PM »
1) Telling the supporters from day one to pull their heads in and be paid up
2) Extending Frawley's contract and insisting he is a good coach

Ive argued these two for ages, especially Point 1. I got so frustratede when he came out in the papers last week and told the fans to stop whinging. I felt like doing what Bulluss wants to do to Pahoff  :shh

froars, who should we replace him with? To be honest, I dont have a problem with his credentials...and I dont mind him staying as long as he doesnt have his head up his ass. I want him to be smart about things and not use politics like threats and stuff to get people onside. He knows that he has done it before and he knows that our supporters know that so he taps that a few times to drum up support but threatening to leave.

If he wants to leave....leave.
If he wants to stay......stay.
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Re: Proposed email to Greg Miller
« Reply #29 on: July 29, 2004, 03:18:54 PM »

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But the Pahloff letter was a personal letter and one that we shouldn't even be discussing becasue it should have remained quiet.  pahloff could have been open and said he received a letter from Miller and maybe paraphrased it a bit.  Don't think Miller's private thoughts should have been put for the world to see.

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Miller didnt write that letter for Pahoff. He wrote it for Schwab.

He's a smart operator. He just needs to focus his talents on the footy, and stay out of the politics.