What I would want for pick 2 scenarios
Carlton
West Coast might want pick 2 and 3 for Judd
What I want - Carlton pick 1
Collingwood
They need pick 2 in my opinion
What I want - Pendlebury and Reid
Essendon
Pick 2 and 6 for Judd
What I want - Pick 6 
and Gumbleton
Hawthorn
What I want - Hodge
Melbourne
Pick 2 and 4 for Judd
What I want - Nathan Jones and Brock McLean
St Kilda
Pick 2 and 9 for Judd
What I want - Armitage and Dal Santo
Kangaroos
Unlikely to get him
What I want - Hamish McIntosh and Lachlan Hansen
All unrealistic, but we can afford to be
This is the way we should be thinking or at least exploring possibilities.
Someone is going to want our pick 2 in an attempt to get the judd deal for themselves over the line.
Carlton have pick 1 and 3. At the moment per some media reports they have offered West Coast their pick 3 a latter pick and a player. This of course is only their opening bid, however I do believe that Carlton would be prepared to give up their 1st and 3rd picks to ultimately secure Judd. The big question that has to be answered is WHO IS JUDDS PREFFERED OPTION, If it is Melbourne and I very much expect it to be Melbourne then I believe for them to get the deal over the line they are going to require our pick 2 to do it. As Mighty Tiges said in an earlier post "we are not a charity" However If Melbourne offered us (example only: Colin Sylvia and Brock Mclean) for this pick then I believe that would be adequate compensation, this then would give melbourne the ability to go to the table with West Coast and offer picks 2 and 4 for Judd. It's not 1 and 3 but it could be an acceptable outcome for all involved.
Lets look at pick 2 for a moment
1. 17 or 18 years of age
2. Raw Talent
3. Top 1% of demonstrated ability for peer group.
4. Top % for potential success at AFL level
5. Potential 10 plus year career in AFL
6. Potential 200 to 250 game player for the club
If the above criteria is intrinsic with a pick 2 then it stands to reason that if you were to trade a pick 2 then you would be expecting to gain a player or players that would closley approximate the criteria above, otherwise you could be found guilty of short changing yourself in the long run.
You certainly would not be looking to trade your pick 2 for Josh Fraser. That says a lot about how Wayne Carey views Richmond, he thinks we are fools. He knows that there are going to be some stupid gullable bastards that will believe him and think it is a great Idea.
Regardless of the crap that eminates from Carey's mouth we could find ourselves in a situation where a great deal could be possible, the deal would have to closly follow the parameters of the above criteria we could trade for a player who is 20, who was also an early draft pick and still fits all of the other criteria but we have the added bonus of a more mature player, raw talent that has been developed to some extent already and we have him now we don't have to wait another 2-3 years for him to grow and develop he already has. Its ok to do this at the younger levels but when you get into the mid 20's the exercise becomes a short term gain option. It too can have its place, but not in our current situation.
So given the above criteria who is a potential tiger player and which club stands the best chance of gaining our pick 2 and chris judd.
