Federal Election

[mightytiges]

Senator Arbib now the Minister for sport.

So Arbib is now the Government rep for our 2022 World Cup Bid with Kate Ellis moved to employment participation and childcare.

[mightytiges]

Fielding has today officially lost his Senate seat and been replaced by a DLP candidate  .

So Senate seats won:

            Vic   NSW  Qld   WA  SA   Tas  NT  ACT   2010   Total   (Previously)
ALP        2       2      2     2     2     3     1    1    = 15       31       (32)
Lib/Nat   2       3      3     3     3     2     1    1    = 18       34       (37)
Greens    1       1      1     1     1     1                =  6        9         (5)
DLP        1                                                    =  1        1         (-)
Indep.                                                          =  -        1         (1)
Fam First                                                      =  -        -         (1)


In the House of Reps, Labor is 62,000 votes ahead on two-party preferred after 92% of the votes counted. Means nothing now except Abbott can no longer claim the Coalition got the higher TPP 

Australian Labor Party      6,192,076     50.25%
Liberal/National Coalition   6,130,660     49.75%

[WilliamPowell]

Fielding has today officially lost his Senate seat and been replaced by a DLP candidate  .

Without doubt one of the best highlights of the election seeing Fielding given the flick

Very sad however that he lingers and probalby holds the country to ransom again on until 30/6/2011

[Ramps]

To many socialists in here I reckon. gillard and labor will stuff Australia. she promised no carbon tax now theres a carbon tax back on the agenda, poor old pensioners, the disabled and others on low incomes are gonna get screwed on their utility bills without being able to increase their income to pay for it. Do you guys want hundreds of thousands of new people under the poverty line? Then theres the resources tax, thats a disgrace as well. Doing a deal with BHP and Rio and screwing all the little explorers doing there best. Then theres the bogus building the schools revolution- Im spewing Im not a builder- I could have passed of a bungalow for a school hall and gotten 2 million bucks.

[1965]

To many socialists in here I reckon. gillard and labor will stuff Australia. she promised no carbon tax now theres a carbon tax back on the agenda, poor old pensioners, the disabled and others on low incomes are gonna get screwed on their utility bills without being able to increase their income to pay for it. Do you guys want hundreds of thousands of new people under the poverty line? Then theres the resources tax, thats a disgrace as well. Doing a deal with BHP and Rio and screwing all the little explorers doing there best. Then theres the bogus building the schools revolution- Im spewing Im not a builder- I could have passed of a bungalow for a school hall and gotten 2 million bucks.

Isn't this a tax on profits?

[Ramps]

To many socialists in here I reckon. gillard and labor will stuff Australia. she promised no carbon tax now theres a carbon tax back on the agenda, poor old pensioners, the disabled and others on low incomes are gonna get screwed on their utility bills without being able to increase their income to pay for it. Do you guys want hundreds of thousands of new people under the poverty line? Then theres the resources tax, thats a disgrace as well. Doing a deal with BHP and Rio and screwing all the little explorers doing there best. Then theres the bogus building the schools revolution- Im spewing Im not a builder- I could have passed of a bungalow for a school hall and gotten 2 million bucks.

Isn't this a tax on profits?

Companies already pay company tax. BHP and Rio seemed to have cut a deal where the resource tax will only be on Iron Ore and Coal and the rest is protected. So the government is going to screw the junior and middle tier Iron Ore and Coal companies and BHP and Rio will continue to make mega profits from Gas and Oil and Gold and every other resource. Its a disgrace.

[Penelope]

To many socialists in here I reckon. gillard and labor will stuff Australia. she promised no carbon tax now theres a carbon tax back on the agenda, poor old pensioners, the disabled and others on low incomes are gonna get screwed on their utility bills without being able to increase their income to pay for it. Do you guys want hundreds of thousands of new people under the poverty line? Then theres the resources tax, thats a disgrace as well. Doing a deal with BHP and Rio and screwing all the little explorers doing there best. Then theres the bogus building the schools revolution- Im spewing Im not a builder- I could have passed of a bungalow for a school hall and gotten 2 million bucks.

Not true Ramps. No matter which party is governing at the the moment, any bills through parliment need the support of the greens in the upper house and the support of the green and independents in the lower house.

When the green and independent members gave their support to Labor to govern they are really only guaranteeing confidence (which is dependent on circumstances) and supply.

The thing is now that the opposition have more opportunity to affect the bills going through parliament than ever in the last 50 years or so. If things go to poo, all have to take a share in the blame, but the independents  possibly more so as they do not have toe any party line in their decision making.

As for the schools "debacle", recently released the report  into this found that 3% of projects came under criticism, which is not a bad strike rate for any government for such a big project.

Just curious Ramps, if Labor supporters are all socialists, does that mean that all Lib supporters are fascists?

[the_boy_jake]

To many socialists in here I reckon. gillard and labor will stuff Australia. she promised no carbon tax now theres a carbon tax back on the agenda, poor old pensioners, the disabled and others on low incomes are gonna get screwed on their utility bills without being able to increase their income to pay for it. Do you guys want hundreds of thousands of new people under the poverty line? Then theres the resources tax, thats a disgrace as well. Doing a deal with BHP and Rio and screwing all the little explorers doing there best. Then theres the bogus building the schools revolution- Im spewing Im not a builder- I could have passed of a bungalow for a school hall and gotten 2 million bucks.

Isn't this a tax on profits?

That's the key point.

Market forces would determine that if all that is happening is a reduction in profits, then even if the big firms aren't happy with slightly smaller margins, smaller more ambitious firms would fill the void. The people who lose the most are the fat cat executives with 7 figure bonuses.

It wasn't a bad tax. Norway tax at like 70%. You should give Greece a miss next time you head to Europe ramps - go to Sweden and Norway, you'll see social democracy in action and better looking women.

[Ramps]

To many socialists in here I reckon. gillard and labor will stuff Australia. she promised no carbon tax now theres a carbon tax back on the agenda, poor old pensioners, the disabled and others on low incomes are gonna get screwed on their utility bills without being able to increase their income to pay for it. Do you guys want hundreds of thousands of new people under the poverty line? Then theres the resources tax, thats a disgrace as well. Doing a deal with BHP and Rio and screwing all the little explorers doing there best. Then theres the bogus building the schools revolution- Im spewing Im not a builder- I could have passed of a bungalow for a school hall and gotten 2 million bucks.

Isn't this a tax on profits?

That's the key point.

Market forces would determine that if all that is happening is a reduction in profits, then even if the big firms aren't happy with slightly smaller margins, smaller more ambitious firms would fill the void. The people who lose the most are the fat cat executives with 7 figure bonuses.

It wasn't a bad tax. Norway tax at like 70%. You should give Greece a miss next time you head to Europe ramps - go to Sweden and Norway, you'll see social democracy in action and better looking women.

Swedish birds are all over the Greek Islands during the European Summer 

[Francois Jackson]

To many socialists in here I reckon. gillard and labor will stuff Australia. she promised no carbon tax now theres a carbon tax back on the agenda, poor old pensioners, the disabled and others on low incomes are gonna get screwed on their utility bills without being able to increase their income to pay for it. Do you guys want hundreds of thousands of new people under the poverty line? Then theres the resources tax, thats a disgrace as well. Doing a deal with BHP and Rio and screwing all the little explorers doing there best. Then theres the bogus building the schools revolution- Im spewing Im not a builder- I could have passed of a bungalow for a school hall and gotten 2 million bucks.

Isn't this a tax on profits?

That's the key point.

Market forces would determine that if all that is happening is a reduction in profits, then even if the big firms aren't happy with slightly smaller margins, smaller more ambitious firms would fill the void. The people who lose the most are the fat cat executives with 7 figure bonuses.

It wasn't a bad tax. Norway tax at like 70%. You should give Greece a miss next time you head to Europe ramps - go to Sweden and Norway, you'll see social democracy in action and better looking women.

Swedish birds are all over the Greek Islands during the European Summer 

aint that the truth!! The best times of my single life were spent taking holidays around those islands, especially little ol lefkada which was filled with some of the best Swedish woman you are ever likely to see in your life.

[Hellenic Tiger]

To many socialists in here I reckon. gillard and labor will stuff Australia. she promised no carbon tax now theres a carbon tax back on the agenda, poor old pensioners, the disabled and others on low incomes are gonna get screwed on their utility bills without being able to increase their income to pay for it. Do you guys want hundreds of thousands of new people under the poverty line? Then theres the resources tax, thats a disgrace as well. Doing a deal with BHP and Rio and screwing all the little explorers doing there best. Then theres the bogus building the schools revolution- Im spewing Im not a builder- I could have passed of a bungalow for a school hall and gotten 2 million bucks.

Isn't this a tax on profits?

That's the key point.

Market forces would determine that if all that is happening is a reduction in profits, then even if the big firms aren't happy with slightly smaller margins, smaller more ambitious firms would fill the void. The people who lose the most are the fat cat executives with 7 figure bonuses.

It wasn't a bad tax. Norway tax at like 70%. You should give Greece a miss next time you head to Europe ramps - go to Sweden and Norway, you'll see social democracy in action and better looking women.

Swedish birds are all over the Greek Islands during the European Summer 

Danish ones too.

[WilliamPowell]

Good to see Tony continuing his good form of saying and agreeing to one thing and then when it comes to actually having to follow through with what he promised he backs away and blames everyone else ... and people wonder why 1/ I don't trust him and 2/ dont like him

[Ramps]

Good to see Tony continuing his good form of saying and agreeing to one thing and then when it comes to actually having to follow through with what he promised he backs away and blames everyone else ... and people wonder why 1/ I don't trust him and 2/ dont like him

WE CANT HAVE people wagging from the parliament. The independents need to vote so they will be forced to vote! Vote 1- TONE 

[WilliamPowell]

Good to see Tony continuing his good form of saying and agreeing to one thing and then when it comes to actually having to follow through with what he promised he backs away and blames everyone else ... and people wonder why 1/ I don't trust him and 2/ dont like him

WE CANT HAVE people wagging from the parliament. The independents need to vote so they will be forced to vote! Vote 1- TONE 

Wasn't talking about that Ramps - was talking about him signing an agreement about Parlimentary reform and the pairing of the speaker and deputy speaker and now him changing his mind and using the excuse that is in breach of the constitution when the most senior government legal expert says it isn't.

He's a CAD 

[Penelope]

I've never seen the C word spelt that way WP?