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Re: Alex Rance [merged]
« Reply #900 on: April 21, 2013, 08:22:42 AM »
grimes is not big or strong enough to stop cloke.
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« Reply #901 on: April 21, 2013, 12:06:40 PM »
Should have double teamed Cloke. Need to play in front of cloke. Cloke will beat you everytime if caught behind but totally agree if there is no pressure on the delivery he will always have a field day

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« Reply #902 on: April 21, 2013, 01:20:38 PM »
not so much on rance. i thought we bought chaplin to the club because of his size and thus his ability to play on the bigger players at 195/100 chaplin was the best fit physically to play on the 196/108kg cloke.

im all for getting chaplin but i think his role has to be against the bigger players other wise i dont really see the point in chasing him. his kicking and decision making coming out is very suspect its the thing most port supporters lamented with him.so i want to see him man up against the bigger forwards and become a pure defender he certainly has the attributes to perform that role.from what ive seen of him hes reliable in the air and decent one on one.

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« Reply #903 on: April 21, 2013, 07:44:40 PM »
i dont think he played that role at Port though and i cant recall the club saying that is why they recuited, only for his experience. He seems to specialise in floating accross the back line to help out teammates and take intercept marks.

I agree though, that he should be able to take the big forwards. he did ok on cloke for the short periods he was on him yesterday, and as the senior and most paid member of the backline he should step up to the plate.
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Re: Alex Rance [merged]
« Reply #904 on: April 21, 2013, 08:15:41 PM »
grimes is not big or strong enough to stop cloke.

And yet there is 1cm and 2 kegs between Grimes and Rance. Why not roll the dice?
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Re: Alex Rance [merged]
« Reply #905 on: April 21, 2013, 08:19:38 PM »
would of thought Grimes would have been first option on Cloke
Agreed, rancer needs to be played to his strengths so we get the benefit of his offensive game, he should have been last choice n cloke not bloomin first. With the luxury of three tall backs i cant believe we didn't get this right :banghead
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Re: Alex Rance [merged]
« Reply #906 on: April 21, 2013, 10:11:43 PM »
grimes is not big or strong enough to stop cloke.

And yet there is 1cm and 2 kegs between Grimes and Rance. Why not roll the dice?
rance isnt big and strong enough either.

give the job to chaplain.
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Re: Alex Rance [merged]
« Reply #907 on: April 21, 2013, 10:14:34 PM »
lets keep making excuses for rance to protect him and bus breath AS QUALITIES LOL

LETS BET REAL BE is NOT GOOD ENOUGH

not good enough for what :lol we just need to get the match ups right, heck I seem to recall scarlett made a careeer out of playing on the opponents biggest nuffy ea week. :shh Ever heard of adopting best practise, called playing to your strengths partner  :wallywink
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« Reply #908 on: April 21, 2013, 10:19:23 PM »
Griffiths was required.

I know many are taking pleasure in Rance getting goals kicked on him but not many Backman going around would have stopped cloke. Given that delivery

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Re: Alex Rance [merged]
« Reply #909 on: April 21, 2013, 10:31:03 PM »
heck I seem to recall scarlett made a careeer out of playing on the opponents biggest nuffy ea week. :shh


What a load of crap.

You are confusing the majority of his career with what you can remember of the last couple of years.

What you are seeming to recall is bollocks

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Re: Alex Rance [merged]
« Reply #910 on: April 21, 2013, 10:34:37 PM »
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Re: Alex Rance [merged]
« Reply #911 on: April 21, 2013, 11:28:33 PM »
would of thought Grimes would have been first option on Cloke
Agreed, rancer needs to be played to his strengths so we get the benefit of his offensive game, he should have been last choice n cloke not bloomin first. With the luxury of three tall backs i cant believe we didn't get this right :banghead
does not make sense in the least.grimes is just 88kg and would have been even more out of his depth than rance playing on cloke. the real option was to play a spare man back have rance play in front cloke and have grimes come over the top. that is if collingwood and buckley would allow this. we got lucky they normally play another tall forward what then.

i have to ask what are his strengths. he conceded more goals than any other player bar one last yr and id say hes well up in that stat this yr again.  so defense is not his strong point.
do we want him rebounding with ball in hand.  im not sure his decision making or foot skills  especially under pressure are good enough to primarily play that role.

ya know what it has its advantages being 4k kilometres away from the club, you dont get the emotional attachment to players thus the need to defend them at all costs. i still cant believe there are some who think him A/A despite constants that say otherwise.

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Re: Alex Rance [merged]
« Reply #912 on: April 21, 2013, 11:29:25 PM »
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Prefer Scarlett. Could shut a man down and rack up 25+ when he wanted to for laughs.

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Re: Alex Rance [merged]
« Reply #913 on: April 21, 2013, 11:34:06 PM »
would of thought Grimes would have been first option on Cloke
Agreed, rancer needs to be played to his strengths so we get the benefit of his offensive game, he should have been last choice n cloke not bloomin first. With the luxury of three tall backs i cant believe we didn't get this right :banghead
does not make sense in the least.grimes is just 88kg and would have been even more out of his depth than rance playing on cloke. the real option was to play a spare man back have rance play in front cloke and have grimes come over the top. that is if collingwood and buckley would allow this. we got lucky they normally play another tall forward what then.

i have to ask what are his strengths. he conceded more goals than any other player bar one last yr and id say hes well up in that stat this yr again.  so defense is not his strong point.
do we want him rebounding with ball in hand.  im not sure his decision making or foot skills  especially under pressure are good enough to primarily play that role.

ya know what it has its advantages being 4k kilometres away from the club, you dont get the emotional attachment to players thus the need to defend them at all costs. i still cant believe there are some who think him A/A despite constants that say otherwise.

We had a spare man back. Issue was it wasn't the right player IMO. Petterd should have had a man and Grimes plays loose. Rance should have played on Q-Stick up the ground as Rance can offer some drive off half back and run off big Q when needed. Chappy playing on Cloke with Grimes playing just off the contest going 3rd man up would have worked well.

Collingwood chose to play the loose man. Our bloke looked clueless about where to be. IMO Grimes and Batch would have known exactly what to do as natural defenders. Petterd would be better off using his aerial ability to chase and defend an opponent who can lead him to the footy. Someone like Fasolo.

I'll spew if I see Rance play deep back while Chappy plays further up the field. Swap them around and play to their strengths.

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Re: Alex Rance [merged]
« Reply #914 on: April 22, 2013, 12:11:59 AM »
would of thought Grimes would have been first option on Cloke
Agreed, rancer needs to be played to his strengths so we get the benefit of his offensive game, he should have been last choice n cloke not bloomin first. With the luxury of three tall backs i cant believe we didn't get this right :banghead
does not make sense in the least.grimes is just 88kg and would have been even more out of his depth than rance playing on cloke. the real option was to play a spare man back have rance play in front cloke and have grimes come over the top. that is if collingwood and buckley would allow this. we got lucky they normally play another tall forward what then.

i have to ask what are his strengths. he conceded more goals than any other player bar one last yr and id say hes well up in that stat this yr again.  so defense is not his strong point.
do we want him rebounding with ball in hand.  im not sure his decision making or foot skills  especially under pressure are good enough to primarily play that role.

ya know what it has its advantages being 4k kilometres away from the club, you dont get the emotional attachment to players thus the need to defend them at all costs. i still cant believe there are some who think him A/A despite constants that say otherwise.

We had a spare man back. Issue was it wasn't the right player IMO. Petterd should have had a man and Grimes plays loose. Rance should have played on Q-Stick up the ground as Rance can offer some drive off half back and run off big Q when needed. Chappy playing on Cloke with Grimes playing just off the contest going 3rd man up would have worked well.

Collingwood chose to play the loose man. Our bloke looked clueless about where to be. IMO Grimes and Batch would have known exactly what to do as natural defenders. Petterd would be better off using his aerial ability to chase and defend an opponent who can lead him to the footy. Someone like Fasolo.

I'll spew if I see Rance play deep back while Chappy plays further up the field. Swap them around and play to their strengths.
pretty much go along with that.  for sure we have to be smarter in how we use our players.