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Re: Wallace to have a lower profile to concentrate on coaching
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2007, 06:50:52 PM »
Nice post blaisee  :clapping

As for the elite talent Blaisee talked about in his post, sure we have some good young players but I feel that we need one more national draft to finish it properly. A couple of early picks next season will really finish the job.
Agree Ramps. We've basically replaced our backline and midfield in 4 drafts with talented youngsters who are now playing senior footy and will grow as a unit together. The forward line is the last query - who are the replacements for Richo in particular as well as Browny? Jack and Cleve are still unknown quantities playing VFL footy. 
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Re: Wallace to have a lower profile to concentrate on coaching
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2007, 07:34:15 PM »
Wallet has a lot of building to do with the senior group


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Re: Wallace to have a lower profile to concentrate on coaching
« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2007, 08:26:37 PM »
something lost to the uninformed, and biased,  is the fact that wallet has bent over and taken a big one up the behind for this club, and the benefits of him doing so will be evident for the next decade.

When wallet came in 2005, we were the most underesourced unprofessionally run club with the worst list in the afl, thanks to spud.

He has sacrificed his reputation and refused to take short cuts re-assembling the list and the coaching staff, add to that the fact that through his efforts in marketing the club have contributed significantly to the million dollar profits now being posted.

One thing for sure, if wallet is sacked after 2008, it is because he ran out of time doing things the right way, when he could have very easily taken short cuts and traded 1st round draft picks to save his ass.

The fact that he did this, knowing that if he failed, it menat his coaching career was over in the afl, and his personal brand destryed, makes it in my  opinion, all the more meritorious.

Believe what you want about TW the person, but he has been the most unselfish and forward thinking, modern coach the tigers have had since Tommy Hafey, hopefully he gets to enjoy the fruits of his labour.

Getting CC to assist FJ, is a massive, massive get. The fact that there will be an extra 300k pumped into the football department to help develop the elite, elite I repeat elite young talent we now have on the list, is just as significant, I hope the biased and the naive, take this into account when judging his performance, because I can assure you the RFC will and does and will continue to do so.

Wallet is not my kind of bloke, not the kind of bloke I would want to have a beer with, notwithstanding this, I am very thankfull that he was strong enough to take the pain, until we got our pooh together, ( thanks Stephen Wright)

Rant over

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You make me laugh.
If he wasnt employed at a football club, he wouldnt have a job, fact.
Dont know ANY senior management people who get $600,000 a year and turn around mid-way through a contract and admit to problems, like i need to spend more time with players on the track, I need to be working closely with the senior group, well hello Terry, should of been from DAY 1 . Its not that he hasnt coached before.. ::) ::) ::) ::)
Blaisee, you have been sucked in big time by the biggest crap merchant coach that has ever been. .

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Re: Wallace to have a lower profile to concentrate on coaching
« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2007, 09:58:20 PM »
Out of all the youngsters only 3 or 4 look as though they could become elite, another 3 or 4 are maybes and the rest need to do lots of work. I havent included Cotchin, Rance or Putt in the numbers- hopefully they all come through. We need another really good draft next year.

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Re: Wallace to have a lower profile to concentrate on coaching
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2007, 02:06:34 AM »
Nice post blaisee  :clapping

As for the elite talent Blaisee talked about in his post, sure we have some good young players but I feel that we need one more national draft to finish it properly. A couple of early picks next season will really finish the job.
Agree Ramps. We've basically replaced our backline and midfield in 4 drafts with talented youngsters who are now playing senior footy and will grow as a unit together. The forward line is the last query - who are the replacements for Richo in particular as well as Browny? Jack and Cleve are still unknown quantities playing VFL footy. 

We could try Gourdis for nada.  PSD pick; nothing to lose, everything to gain.

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Re: Wallace to have a lower profile to concentrate on coaching
« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2007, 06:23:51 AM »

You make me laugh.
If he wasnt employed at a football club, he wouldnt have a job, fact.
Dont know ANY senior management people who get $600,000 a year and turn around mid-way through a contract and admit to problems, like i need to spend more time with players on the track, I need to be working closely with the senior group, well hello Terry, should of been from DAY 1 . Its not that he hasnt coached before.. ::) ::) ::) ::)
Blaisee, you have been sucked in big time by the biggest crap merchant coach that has ever been. .

I may have been sucked in by him, but you were sacked by him !!!!!

In any case, my rant was for those that were unbiased, and that is NOT you, as you are a disgruntled ex-employee. Wallet had a job in the media, and still does . Enjoy your enforced retirement

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Re: Wallace to have a lower profile to concentrate on coaching
« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2007, 06:34:28 AM »
JACK GET OVER IT!

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Re: Wallace to have a lower profile to concentrate on coaching
« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2007, 09:00:57 AM »

Dont know ANY senior management people who get $600,000 a year and turn around mid-way through a contract and admit to problems, like i need to spend more time with players on the track, I need to be working closely with the senior group, well hello Terry, should of been from DAY 1 . Its not that he hasnt coached before.. ::) ::) ::) ::)

Hasn't Rodney Eade had some changes made to his role mid-contract?
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Re: Wallace to have a lower profile to concentrate on coaching
« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2007, 09:08:03 AM »
Out of all the youngsters only 3 or 4 look as though they could become elite, another 3 or 4 are maybes and the rest need to do lots of work. I havent included Cotchin, Rance or Putt in the numbers- hopefully they all come through. We need another really good draft next year.

3-4 elite players is all a team really needs.

The Pies don't have anyone i'd class as elite in their side.

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Re: Wallace to have a lower profile to concentrate on coaching
« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2007, 09:36:58 AM »
i didnt say they were elite, i said they could become elite.

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Re: Wallace to have a lower profile to concentrate on coaching
« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2007, 11:43:17 AM »
i didnt say they were elite, i said they could become elite.

I hope they do, I meant that if 3-4 did become elite, that's all we'd need, but also a strong support cast to help them out.

As Essendon have proven, you can have 3-4 elite players, but if the rest of the team totally suck, then you're always going to be mid range on the table.
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Re: Wallace to have a lower profile to concentrate on coaching
« Reply #26 on: November 29, 2007, 03:58:47 PM »

You make me laugh.
If he wasnt employed at a football club, he wouldnt have a job, fact.
Dont know ANY senior management people who get $600,000 a year and turn around mid-way through a contract and admit to problems, like i need to spend more time with players on the track, I need to be working closely with the senior group, well hello Terry, should of been from DAY 1 . Its not that he hasnt coached before.. ::) ::) ::) ::)
Blaisee, you have been sucked in big time by the biggest crap merchant coach that has ever been. .

I may have been sucked in by him, but you were sacked by him !!!!!

In any case, my rant was for those that were unbiased, and that is NOT you, as you are a disgruntled ex-employee. Wallet had a job in the media, and still does . Enjoy your enforced retirement


Lets get a few things straight.
I left, not going to get paid peanuts to work your backside off, .
Would you work for nothing or very little ? dont think so..I walked very simple.!
As for being biased, wouldnt think so, just know what happens behind the scenes, and little surprise to me and many others that they won the spoon, good chance for back to back spoons.
As for forced retirement, already doing something next year!

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Re: Wallace to have a lower profile to concentrate on coaching
« Reply #27 on: November 29, 2007, 04:07:08 PM »

Lets get a few things straight.
I left, not going to get paid peanuts to work your backside off, .
Would you work for nothing or very little ? dont think so..I walked very simple.!
As for being biased, wouldnt think so, just know what happens behind the scenes, and little surprise to me and many others that they won the spoon, good chance for back to back spoons.
As for forced retirement, already doing something next year!

Whatever you say, Jack  ;) ;) ;)

something lost to the uninformed, and biased,  is the fact that wallet has bent over and taken a big one up the behind for this club, and the benefits of him doing so will be evident for the next decade.

When wallet came in 2005, we were the most underesourced unprofessionally run club with the worst list in the afl, thanks to spud.

He has sacrificed his reputation and refused to take short cuts re-assembling the list and the coaching staff, add to that the fact that through his efforts in marketing the club have contributed significantly to the million dollar profits now being posted.

One thing for sure, if wallet is sacked after 2008, it is because he ran out of time doing things the right way, when he could have very easily taken short cuts and traded 1st round draft picks to save his ass.

The fact that he did this, knowing that if he failed, it menat his coaching career was over in the afl, and his personal brand destryed, makes it in my  opinion, all the more meritorious.

Believe what you want about TW the person, but he has been the most unselfish and forward thinking, modern coach the tigers have had since Tommy Hafey, hopefully he gets to enjoy the fruits of his labour.

Getting CC to assist FJ, is a massive, massive get. The fact that there will be an extra 300k pumped into the football department to help develop the elite, elite I repeat elite young talent we now have on the list, is just as significant, I hope the biased and the naive, take this into account when judging his performance, because I can assure you the RFC will and does and will continue to do so.

Wallet is not my kind of bloke, not the kind of bloke I would want to have a beer with, notwithstanding this, I am very thankfull that he was strong enough to take the pain, until we got our pooh together, ( thanks Stephen Wright)

Rant over

Regards


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Re: Wallace to have a lower profile to concentrate on coaching
« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2007, 04:24:43 PM »

Dont know ANY senior management people who get $600,000 a year and turn around mid-way through a contract and admit to problems, like i need to spend more time with players on the track, I need to be working closely with the senior group, well hello Terry, should of been from DAY 1 . Its not that he hasnt coached before.. ::) ::) ::) ::)

Hasn't Rodney Eade had some changes made to his role mid-contract?
Mark Thompson.
End of 2006 had to convince the Geelong board he was prepared to change to keep his job.

I would have thought realising you should maybe do things differently and acting on it is a good thing. No matter how long you've been doing it.
Good stuff, Plough.  :)
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Re: Wallace to have a lower profile to concentrate on coaching
« Reply #29 on: November 29, 2007, 06:56:00 PM »
best thing that could happen next year is a spoon finish with 4 wins and the priority pick. Picks 1 and 2 thanks and then a 3rd inside 20.