"Deledio not playing midfield an admission of defeat" - Shaw, Connolly

[Darth Tiger]

The problem Lids has is whenever he moves into the centre he cops the No 1 tag. The opposition coaches easily rate him at 20 years old higher than any of our senior players. It's easy to say he should play like Judd but even Judd had Cousins, Kerr, Fletcher, Braun, etc around him to give the opposition headaches on who to tag. As damaging midfielders we have Foley and umm .... ummm ....  . It's too easy to shut down our midfield. Hopefully Cogs and Browny can get back to their best along with some of our cubs stepping up to cut Foley and Lids some slack.

MT, you've hit the nail on the head.

Pity more media scribes do little research and just fire pre-conceptions without due thought.

[Mr Magic]

Tony Shaw still has a job in media circles?

I may be wrong but wasn't Deledio's strength up predominantly up forward when he was a junior?

[Infamy]

He was always a utility even at junior level. Played all over the ground and pinch hitted up forward often.

[Hellenic Tiger]

Tony Shaw still has a job in media circles?

I may be wrong but wasn't Deledio's strength up predominantly up forward when he was a junior?

If you fail miserably in coaching like Spud and Shaw you get the red carpet treatment into the media to preach your dogma to the masses to only re assert the fans view on why they fail in coaching and got sacked in the first place. Its a Green Card to toilet talk in their case if you ask me.

[Mr Magic]

He was always a utility even at junior level. Played all over the ground and pinch hitted up forward often.

Thanks Infamy.
I didn't think he was a specialist mid.
It may be harsh but I would hope though that one of Deledio of Tambling goes on to become an absolute gun given that we passed up the likes of Lewis in '04 who is a true mid and delivering more than either of those guys at this point.
'04 was the year we drafted for midfielders at the expense of KPPs so hopefully one of those players we chose at 1 & 4 can make a valuable long term contribution in the middle.
Looking more like to be Tambling at this stage IMO as I think Lids will predominantly be a forward and a very good one at that.

[wayne]

Fact is he's a gun.

If he's a gun forward, then he solves a problem we could have when Richo goes. I have said it before in another topic, but when Lids gets to 26-27 he could be turned into a 100kg power forward in the mould of Gehrig. Quick, strong and classy.

The midfield is promising anyway, Connors, Cotchin, Foley, Tambling, Edwards, Polo... We could also be lucky and have Collins, Collard or White turn into another good player in the middle.

I don't know how it's an admission of defeat, many players have been drafted for a certain role but end up in a different position.

Lockett was a ruckman wasn't he?

[mightytiges]

Not sure about Lockett but Disco Roach started on a wing. Peter Burgoyne spent 3-4 years playing forward pocket before he moved into the midfield. According to idiot Shaw, Lids being versatile and good enough to play in a number of positions is a bad thing ???.

[Mr Magic]

Fact is he's a gun.

That's not a fact at all.
Deledio shows plenty of promise but he's not a gun yet.
Plenty of areas he can improve his game IMO.

Hopefully by the end of this season we can say it's a fact.

[T2]

i just find it amazing that he kicks 5 goals on a dud like toovey and people suddenly believe he is our next ff, there are no gurantees he will be a gun up forward either because if he starts playing their on a permanent basis he will be getting a lot better defenders than the likes of toovey

hird comparisons are all well and good but hird was played in the centre on many occasions and when the bombers needed a centre clearance he was the one who got them up and running, lids is at the point now where he needs to grab the games by the neck and the best place for that is the middle

[wayne]

That's not a fact at all.

It's a very biased fact  

[Mr Magic]

I'd love to see Lids groomed as our next key forward.

[Rex]

Lids has a great pair of hands. Is the fastest in the club? and is a beautiful kick. May we be seeing another dare I say it .......Gary Ablett. Ablett was 185cm / 97kg and lids is 188cm and putting on weight as we speek.  Hmmmmm!!!

[Mr Magic]

The easiest response to this crap is to ask Tony Shaw if he'd have Brett down at the Pies?

[Smokey]

Lids has a great pair of hands. Is the fastest in the club? and is a beautiful kick. May we be seeing another dare I say it .......Gary Ablett. Ablett was 185cm / 97kg and lids is 188cm and putting on weight as we speek.  Hmmmmm!!!

I'd be happy to go shopping for another midfielder if this happened! 

[Stripes]

Why not play Lids from CHF where he can move up into the midfield if he is out sized by his defender or move deep into the forwardline to out mark/lead his opponent if he is tagged. Best of both worlds and keeps the opposition guessing. It also gives him the flexibility to change his role depending on the needs of the team.

Regardless I think he will play out of the square this year and run off more than one opponent with ease.

He will be a star....and yes I am biased - why else would I be here?

Stripes