Robbo on Wallace's future

[one-eyed]

Mark Robinson on SEN just said it would be negligent of Gary March not to sack Wallace if 2007 is repeated. Not just in terms of wins/losses but in terms of performance. Something would be wrong if we see multiple 100 point losses again.

[Mr Magic]

Mark Robinson on SEN just said it would be negligent of Gary March not to sack Wallace if 2007 is repeated. Not just in terms of wins/losses but in terms of performance. Something would be wrong if we see multiple 100 point losses again.

I completely agree with Robbo.
Winning wooden spoons in his 3rd and 4th year was not part of Wallace's pitch.

Heat is on IMO. Terry is paid to get results.

[Rodgerramjet]

Robbo is starting fires already and we now have the choice of two things, we can either breath life into them by continuing to dramatise doom and gloom which this arshole is counting on or we can douse them out by making nothing of them. He actually hasn't told us anything that we probably haven't already quietly considered, he's playing to the strings of the gullable.

It's idiots like him that light the fires and it's the gullable that turn the spark into the inferno.

[mightytiges]

This is the first week back for most of the main journos. They're obviously starting early on Plough. Bringing March into it as well is a further tactic to fan the flames as you say RR.

[Little Jackie]

Mark Robinson on SEN just said it would be negligent of Gary March not to sack Wallace if 2007 is repeated. Not just in terms of wins/losses but in terms of performance. Something would be wrong if we see multiple 100 point losses again.

I completely agree with Robbo.
Winning wooden spoons in his 3rd and 4th year was not part of Wallace's pitch.

Heat is on IMO. Terry is paid to get results.

Correct!

[Obelix]

So....  what's the benchmark? 

Results?  What does that mean exactly?  No more big losses?  Okay - but a this stage I'd rather a 6 goal loss with a bunch of kids than a 2 goal loss with a bunch of seasoned players. 

Win-loss ratio?  A 15-7 season would be great but the same principle applies - 7-15 isn't so bad if you've just pumped 22 games into a group of young fellers. 

[WilliamPowell]

So....  what's the benchmark? 

Results?  What does that mean exactly?  No more big losses?  Okay - but a this stage I'd rather a 6 goal loss with a bunch of kids than a 2 goal loss with a bunch of seasoned players. 

Win-loss ratio?  A 15-7 season would be great but the same principle applies - 7-15 isn't so bad if you've just pumped 22 games into a group of young fellers. 

Arghhh logic... Sadly Robbo wouldn't get it

Mark Robinson is a fool - his columns over the years have proved that. What did he say about his beloved Bummers I wonder ??? Knowing Robbo absolutely nothing would be my guess

[mightytiges]

Mark Robinson is a fool - his columns over the years have proved that. What did he say about his beloved Bummers I wonder ??? Knowing Robbo absolutely nothing would be my guess

He didn't say much  . Just that he couldn't see them making the finals IIRC. Ox had them 15th.

Just on his multiple 100 point loss theory. Last year we had one 100 point loss (make that a 157 point loss ) and we finished last. The year before we had four 100 point losses yet finished 9th. So 2006 was worse than 2007 according to Robbo's theory  ???.

[wayne]

Ox had them 15th.

Let me guess, we were 16th according to Ox?

[mightytiges]

Ox had them 15th.

Let me guess, we were 16th according to Ox?

Aren't we everyone's  . Ox tipped us for the wooden spoon last year too.

[Francois Jackson]

Mark Robinson is a fool - his columns over the years have proved that. What did he say about his beloved Bummers I wonder ??? Knowing Robbo absolutely nothing would be my guess

He didn't say much  . Just that he couldn't see them making the finals IIRC. Ox had them 15th.

Just on his multiple 100 point loss theory. Last year we had one 100 point loss (make that a 157 point loss ) and we finished last. The year before we had four 100 point losses yet finished 9th. So 2006 was worse than 2007 according to Robbo's theory  ???.

he is just trying to justify his job. tosser.
in any case we shouldnt be involved in any 100 point loss, its so damaging to our club.
i put this down to the players mentality. when push comes to shove they go hiding. 50 point deficit turns into a 100 point loss. its gotta stop and they must learn to be tougher

[T2]

So....  what's the benchmark? 

Results?  What does that mean exactly?  No more big losses?  Okay - but a this stage I'd rather a 6 goal loss with a bunch of kids than a 2 goal loss with a bunch of seasoned players. 

Win-loss ratio?  A 15-7 season would be great but the same principle applies - 7-15 isn't so bad if you've just pumped 22 games into a group of young fellers. 

if the season is a write off before the mid season break like in 07 then i would think questions will be asked and the heat turned on by the media

but we as fans will just be hoping that some of the kids show genuine improvement and tw can get the best out of them, if he can then i would think the board will give him a bit more time

will the rfc self destruct like always or will we fight back for once

its going to be an interesting season to say the least

[Hellenic Tiger]

I thought Journalists were "morally obliged" to report the facts and the truth.
Sure we are a struggling side but it is derelict of that Essendon fool to put up a smokescreen when his own footy club have a sacrificial lamb as a coach and spine that would make a chiropractor cringe. Its a pity sensationalist journalism has become the norm nowadays, yet if indeed the blow torch is on Terry after a 1-6 start (which indeed it should be) and the ferals start lining up along the players race similar to when Spud was coaching who will be blamed for the ensuing riot that ensues? Journos like Robbo or the fans who have been starved for 26 years? What if we are 6-1 and look every bit a finals bound side will that moron take credit? When you are in a precarious position on field as we are you just have to hope that the team ignores outside influences like that and have a steely resolve to prove the buggers wrong.

[Smokey]

Mark Robinson on SEN just said it would be negligent of Gary March not to sack Wallace if 2007 is repeated. Not just in terms of wins/losses but in terms of performance. Something would be wrong if we see multiple 100 point losses again.

Someone has already replied to this thread re: we only had 1 loss last season by more than 100 points.  Here are some more interesting stats:

3 games were lost by more than 100 points - 2 by Carlton, 1 by us.  Collingwood and West Coast both lost games by more than 90 points.
We only lost 3 games by 10 goals or more.  Carlton lost 7, Bulldogs lost 4, Melbourne lost 3, 12 teams in total lost at least 1 game by 10 goals or more. 

Makes a mockery of this type of unresearched bullsh*t 'reporting'.  I'll keep saying it until I'm blue in the face - we are going to surprise a lot of people this year with our sudden and 'unannounced' improvement.  The only ones who will see it are the ones today who are looking through the trees and seeing a stack of wood.  We are not nearly as bad as the doomsayers would have you believe.

[Mr Magic]

Anyone coach can get games into kids. Not just any coach can get results.

Wallace is not doing a grand job of rebuilding the list re the youngsters we pick up. That's the recruiting department's responsibility. Terry is however responsible for the likes of Knobel, P Bowden, Kingsley, McMahon etc.

Realistically we should be showing dramatic improvement under Wallace in his 4th season. In fact when he was signed I would have thought finals in year 4 was a real possibility and far from an unrealistic expectation.

Five years is no guarantee if it starts to again go seriously pear shaped.
Yet another coach can try and get the most out of our list.