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Re: Sugar out of North game plus a $5,000 fine
« Reply #60 on: March 23, 2008, 09:18:43 PM »
True Jack but what's the maximum fine the club can impose under the AFLPA's  EBA. It's only $5k or 10k?

It's $10k

I'm pretty sure it's $5000
Calton fined Fevola $10,000.  ;)
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Re: Sugar out of North game plus a $5,000 fine
« Reply #61 on: March 23, 2008, 09:25:45 PM »
Actually the most important thing Knae Johnson must do tomorrow is attend the press conference.

No sneaking in back doors etc like Fev - be a man and face the music, the media and supporters. I see a good crowd being at training tomorrow


spot on WP, he must face the media, its also important that the club has acted swiftly.

We have a game to win next week.

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Re: Sugar out of North game plus a $5,000 fine
« Reply #62 on: March 23, 2008, 09:28:42 PM »
Yes that's correct - Now I'm confused because when Collingwood fined Morrison $20,000 I remember the Players Association getting upset because the maximum fine under EBA was $5000 and they also came out in support of Hawks Brown saying he should only have been fined $5000 - maybe it's first offence $5000?

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Re: Sugar out of North game plus a $5,000 fine
« Reply #63 on: March 23, 2008, 09:28:58 PM »
True Jack but what's the maximum fine the club can impose under the AFLPA's  EBA. It's only $5k or 10k?

It's $10k

No Willy, it's $5k first offence, $10k second offence.

I distinctly remember hearing about it last week.
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Re: Sugar in strife doing a Fev
« Reply #64 on: March 23, 2008, 09:30:18 PM »
what is even as disappointing some of our guys were really on juice over the weekend, maybe the "pact" was withdrawn for the long weekend.

interesting that if they cant keep a "pact" how can they adhere to team structures.
Who is "they"?
I've only seen Johnson's name mentioned up to now.


there was more than one out celebrating over the last couple of days.

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Re: Sugar out of North game plus a $5,000 fine
« Reply #65 on: March 23, 2008, 09:31:10 PM »
True Jack but what's the maximum fine the club can impose under the AFLPA's  EBA. It's only $5k or 10k?

It's $10k

No Willy, it's $5k first offence, $10k second offence.

I distinctly remember hearing about it last week.

I stand corrected

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The Club should fine him $5K and he should double it  ;D

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Re: Sugar in strife doing a Fev
« Reply #66 on: March 23, 2008, 09:32:00 PM »
what is even as disappointing some of our guys were really on juice over the weekend, maybe the "pact" was withdrawn for the long weekend.

interesting that if they cant keep a "pact" how can they adhere to team structures.

Roger, we finally agree :thumbsup

only partly Jackstar, these blokes need to accept the responsibility, mother Wallace and Miller cant be holding their hands.

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Re: Sugar in strife doing a Fev
« Reply #67 on: March 23, 2008, 09:36:34 PM »
what is even as disappointing some of our guys were really on juice over the weekend, maybe the "pact" was withdrawn for the long weekend.

interesting that if they cant keep a "pact" how can they adhere to team structures.
Who is "they"?
I've only seen Johnson's name mentioned up to now.


there was more than one out celebrating over the last couple of days.
At a pub or nightclub?

I haven't seen anywhere that they can't celebrate.
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Re: Sugar out of North game plus a $5,000 fine
« Reply #68 on: March 23, 2008, 09:36:45 PM »
True Jack but what's the maximum fine the club can impose under the AFLPA's  EBA. It's only $5k or 10k?

It's $10k

No Willy, it's $5k first offence, $10k second offence.

I distinctly remember hearing about it last week.

I stand corrected

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The Club should fine him $5K and he should double it  ;D


Amen to that and why cant he self-impose such a fine if it's not the club itself but the player imposing the fine.  :shh  Just a thought.


Tried to find it on the AFLPA website but info found to conclusively say either way.
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Re: Sugar in strife doing a Fev
« Reply #69 on: March 23, 2008, 10:14:10 PM »
Aw!!! F!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Isn't that just typical Fing Richmond. Thanks a lot Johnston. Just when there's a bit of positivity around the place you have to go and do that. HOW BLOODY STUPID ARE YOU!!!! Captain as well. The wooden spoon last year didn't make me nearly as angry as this. I spend the day out having a good time with friends and I come home to find my stupid STUPID STUPID!!!! captain has gone and peeed against a police station.  You do not deserve the captaincy, you do not deserve to wear the yellow and black. I have now lost all respect for you. I don't just feel for the supporters I feel for the young players who may have been able to enjoy being a member of the RFC for a change but now have to deal with this crap. Enough is enough. Time for a new captain, I am sick of being embarrassed by you.

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Re: Sugar out of North game plus a $5,000 fine
« Reply #70 on: March 23, 2008, 10:16:18 PM »
Damaging leak gets Tiger skipper banned

March 23, 2008 - 9:43PM

Richmond captain Kane Johnson will be suspended from the club's upcoming match against North Melbourne after being the second AFL player in days caught urinating in public.

In a stunning display of poor judgment, after Carlton star Brendan Fevola was sanctioned for a similar offence last week, Johnson was caught urinating outside a police complex in Melbourne's St Kilda Road.

The incident occurred about 2am (AEDT) Sunday, with Johnson arrested and charged with being drunk in a public place and scheduled to face court on April 22.

Johnson admitted to his own "stupidity" and volunteered to sit out next Sunday's match against the Kangaroos at Telstra Dome as his penalty.

The club accepted that decision and will also fine him $5,000.

Johnson had been celebrating his 30th birthday with family and friends at his own home, which is next to the police complex, before the incident.

"I deeply regret my actions, I'm disappointed that I've let the club, our supporters and my teammates down," Johnson said in a statement.

"As captain, I have preached a message that I've failed to uphold.

"Fronting my teammates at the next training session will be the most difficult time I face in football.

"I take full responsibility for my behaviour and accept the penalty that the club has imposed."

Johnson also volunteered to take up an educational role in the community.

"I have reflected on the stupidity of my actions and plan to educate the community and in particular young kids about the dangers of binge drinking," he said.

Richmond director of football Greg Miller said while Johnson's action was disappointing, it was completely out of character.

Johnson's behaviour is particularly embarrassing for the club given comments made by coach Terry Wallace in the wake of the Fevola episode.

While declining to comment on Fevola last week, Wallace paid tribute to his own leadership group and said his players' behaviour over the off-season had been "exemplary".

Johnson's suspension is at odds with the stance taken by Carlton, with the Blues clearing their star to play in last Thursday night's season-opener against Richmond, after he was caught on camera urinating outside a nightclub last weekend.

But Fevola was fined $10,000, stood down from the club's leadership group, ordered to undergo counselling and warned that another similar incident in the future would result in his sacking.

Melbourne's Brock McLean is another player to have been stood down from his club's leadership group in the pre-season, after several driving misdemeanours.

By his own admission, Johnson was coming off a personally disappointing season in 2007, in which his club finished with the wooden spoon.

His performance against Carlton was a vast improvement on his form for most of last year, with the Tigers' win also a much brighter start, after they failed to win any of their first 11 games in 2007.

But this incident will take some of the gloss off that positive start.

Johnson is a two-time premiership player with Adelaide in 1997-98 and the only player on Richmond's list with premiership experience.

He had been due to play his 100th match for the Tigers on Sunday, after notching 104 games with the Crows, but that milestone will now come against Collingwood the following Sunday.

http://news.realfooty.com.au/damaging-leak-gets-tiger-skipper-banned/20080323-213k.html
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Re: Sugar out of North game plus a $5,000 fine
« Reply #71 on: March 23, 2008, 10:25:21 PM »
is anyone else sick of professional sportsmen doing something stupid, then deciding they should "educate" the community about the dangers of whatever offence/vice they committed.  :banghead

what will be the crux of his message, peeing in front of a police building is baaad kids!! Rather him just face the media, cop a penalty and get on with things. I suppose it is an admirable thing but is almost becoming fashionable. Ok rant over :lol

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Re: Sugar out of North game plus a $5,000 fine
« Reply #72 on: March 23, 2008, 10:36:41 PM »
I was wondering what his court fine would be and found this - I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't get to court if he was basically next door to his home.



"Victoria is the only state in Australia where being drunk in a public place is a criminal offence and can result in arrest and a $100 fine. The all-party Drugs and Crime Prevention Committee inquiry says public drunkenness should be viewed as a health issue and decriminalised. But it says this should only happen once adequate numbers of sobering-up centres have been established."

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Re: Sugar out of North game plus a $5,000 fine
« Reply #73 on: March 23, 2008, 10:41:34 PM »
No talk about the captaincy MT?
Nup bluey. I'd take a guess that's what the press conference is for.

I agree with WP. Sugar needs to face the music at the press conference tomorrow.
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Re: Sugar out of North game plus a $5,000 fine
« Reply #74 on: March 23, 2008, 10:46:22 PM »
I was wondering what his court fine would be and found this - I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't get to court if he was basically next door to his home.



"Victoria is the only state in Australia where being drunk in a public place is a criminal offence and can result in arrest and a $100 fine. The all-party Drugs and Crime Prevention Committee inquiry says public drunkenness should be viewed as a health issue and decriminalised. But it says this should only happen once adequate numbers of sobering-up centres have been established."

Being a first offence I'd say if Sugar volunteers to do "community work" as has been said he will then the charges will be dropped by the cops and no conviction recorded.
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