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Ben Holland suing RFC and Clinton Casey for half a million
« on: April 03, 2008, 10:29:15 PM »
Hutchy just said it on the footy show :-\

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Re: Ben Holland suing RFC and Clinton Casey for half a million
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2008, 10:30:31 PM »
Salary cap implications is more the worry  :help

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Re: Ben Holland suing RFC and Clinton Casey for half a million
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2008, 10:33:58 PM »
Now ,how long as steve wright been at RFC for ?? Where is Rogerd3 when you need him ?

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Re: Ben Holland suing RFC and Clinton Casey for half a million
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2008, 10:34:19 PM »
Relates to Ben Holland staying at RFC instead of heading to Adelaide.

Holland's writ:

Adelaide offered 1.33m over 3 years.

Richmond offered 800k over 3 years

So he's suing for the difference - $530k

He's also suing Casey for failure to pay him:

* $180k in land before sale
* other property development opportunities
* allow him to be the podiatrist at Casey's retirement home facilities
* Share parcels in Casey company

RFC said they are aware. Legal advisors to investigate. Have notified AFL and will pass on legal advice to AFL once available.

Garry Lyon questioned about the salary cap implications  :-\

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Re: Ben Holland suing RFC and Clinton Casey for half a million
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2008, 10:36:10 PM »
Yeah end of 2001 when he was thinking of going to Adelaide.
In Summary According to Ben Holland
Crows offered 1.33 mill
Tigs offered $800K and to make up the rest to add up to Adel deal was offered land 180K
interests in Casey's business as well as having a regular gig as a podiatrist
at Casey's aged care facilities. None of this accord to Holland was ever received yet he is adamant this was spoken of and implied in a meeting with Casey at Crown in 2001. So whether true or not the stigma attatched to our club from previous admins still haunt us. May have salary cap repercussions? :o
To add insult to injury rd 4 2002 in Perth vs Freo he did his knee and was out for 12 months. In hindsight we should have let him go.  :banghead

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Re: Ben Holland suing RFC and Clinton Casey for half a million
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2008, 10:37:02 PM »
Now ,how long as steve wright been at RFC for ?? Where is Rogerd3 when you need him ?
Mark Brayshaw was CEO at the time. We're talking about the end of 2001.

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Re: Ben Holland suing RFC and Clinton Casey for half a million
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2008, 10:42:23 PM »
The mismanagement of this footy club by previous admins if indeed this is all true is absolutely staggering. It ssems just about every admin has left the Tigers worse off than what they were when they initially arrived.
Casey has alot to answer for even now 5 yrs after his departure from the club.

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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2008, 10:50:56 PM »
It's a Supreme Court hearing, they won't be able to tell any porkies like they might in an AFL investigation.
If there's been any no good happening here, it'll all come out - not everyone will be prepared to perjure themselves to protect the club.

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Re: Ben Holland suing RFC and Clinton Casey for half a million
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2008, 10:51:20 PM »
One thing that you can say about the Holland brothers - they got the maximum amount of income out of their football careers  ;D

Ben was looked after in a number of ways - from what was on the show tonight it's unclear if the claim represents salary cap irregularities. He was given access to financial training via work opportunities that were certainly of benefit but it was work so also probably outside salary cap.

Not a good look though.

ps - We had Gasper under attack from Freo at the time - I think.

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Re: Ben Holland suing RFC and Clinton Casey for half a million
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2008, 10:53:54 PM »
And I'll just get in early here and state that Terry Wallace has nothiing to do with this lol

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Re: Ben Holland suing RFC and Clinton Casey for half a million
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2008, 10:59:29 PM »
One thing that you can say about the Holland brothers - they got the maximum amount of income out of their football careers  ;D

Ben was looked after in a number of ways - from what was on the show tonight it's unclear if the claim represents salary cap irregularities. He was given access to financial training via work opportunities that were certainly of benefit but it was work so also probably outside salary cap.

Not a good look though.

ps - We had Gasper under attack from Freo at the time - I think.

Rumour had it Gaspar was being offered a McDonals or Hungry Jacks franchise at the time in order to go back to WA and sign for Freo. :shh

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Re: Ben Holland suing RFC and Clinton Casey for half a million
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2008, 11:02:51 PM »
It's a Supreme Court hearing, they won't be able to tell any porkies like they might in an AFL investigation.
If there's been any no good happening here, it'll all come out - not everyone will be prepared to perjure themselves to protect the club.

does it matter? we can admit to promising to pay him in court but it doesnt matter as we didn't pay him so cannot be done for cheating..

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Re: Ben Holland suing RFC and Clinton Casey for half a million
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2008, 11:05:36 PM »
Gasper got the same financial work experience that Holland got - but it was real work and as far as I understood it was ok. Not a freebie, just an opportunity.

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Re: Ben Holland suing RFC and Clinton Casey for half a million
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2008, 11:07:39 PM »
One thing that you can say about the Holland brothers - they got the maximum amount of income out of their football careers  ;D

Ben was looked after in a number of ways - from what was on the show tonight it's unclear if the claim represents salary cap irregularities. He was given access to financial training via work opportunities that were certainly of benefit but it was work so also probably outside salary cap.

Not a good look though.

ps - We had Gasper under attack from Freo at the time - I think.

Rumour had it Gaspar was being offered a McDonals or Hungry Jacks franchise at the time in order to go back to WA and sign for Freo. :shh

And a few are and were tied up with Boost Jiuce stores :shh :shh :shh :shh

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Re: Ben Holland suing RFC and Clinton Casey for half a million
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2008, 11:08:08 PM »
The mismanagement of this footy club by previous admins if indeed this is all true is absolutely staggering. It ssems just about every admin has left the Tigers worse off than what they were when they initially arrived.
Casey has alot to answer for even now 5 yrs after his departure from the club.
Surely you didn't need any reminding of the cancer that was the Casey years?  >:(