Brett Deledio [merged]

[WilliamPowell]

If he wants to go he will go irrespective of the rules IMHO.

Cannot agree as I said under FA we hold the aces here

The rules are the rules Flags and I know I sound like a broken record but again we

As I see it there are 2 scenarios here

Under free agency as restricted free agent if the Tigers match ANY offer he receives then he has to stay. End of story. Not open to any discussion

If the Club chooses not match an offer then he gets traded - again those are the rules

So under FA if "he wants to go" he can only go if we don't match the offer and then he gets traded to club that gives us the best deal.

[WilliamPowell]

Yes. Whilst the chances would be amplified by a poor year for the club, another heartbreaking 9th again would likely do it anyway.

So in your view Magic the FA rules that favour the RFC are redundant in your case as well? 

[WilliamPowell]

Is anyone concerned that we could end up in strife regarding salary cap.

Absolutely not

We've been paying under the salary cap for the last couple of years around 92.5%

Granted in 2012 we must pay for memory a minimum of 95% of the cap but I doubt we'd be over that so we have plenty of room

And also don't forget alot players re-signed for 2012 were only given 1 year deals for the very reason that allows us to free up space for the marque players

[Penelope]

If he wants to go he will go irrespective of the rules IMHO.

Cannot agree as I said under FA we hold the aces here

The rules are the rules Flags and I know I sound like a broken record but again we

As I see it there are 2 scenarios here

Under free agency as restricted free agent if the Tigers match ANY offer he receives then he has to stay. End of story. Not open to any discussion

If the Club chooses not match an offer then he gets traded - again those are the rules

So under FA if "he wants to go" he can only go if we don't match the offer and then he gets traded to club that gives us the best deal.

He could also just ask to be traded billy. Of course the club would play hardball but if he really wants out he can get out. The question is does he really want out and why?

Frankly I dont care one way or the other as we should get adequate compensation. Unless the club of his choice trades into first pick of the ND, he isnt going to just walk if it is success he is after.

My feeling is that his manager will field offers from rival clubs to up his contract value and as others have pointed out, we would have more room in our salary cap than the top sides

God , roll on the season proper 

[tiger101]

I agree with WP he will stay. I'm not fussed about him holding off from signing before the season. He most likely wants to see what his market rate is so he can get the most money he can get(from us). I won't criticize the man for doing that.

[WilliamPowell]

He could also just ask to be traded billy. Of course the club would play hardball but if he really wants out he can get out. The question is does he really want out and why?

Not disputing that for a minute al

If he asks for a trade then, yep he's a good chance of going but if it is based solely on matching offers he stays

If he does ask for trade (and I don't believe he will) then the club again does the best deal it can for the Club.... again we win

Can I just add that I think people are forgetting the Club has worked bloody hard to position itself to be in strong position for FA. They hired Hartley who seems to across the various scenarios regarding not only FA but uncontracted players from other clubs.

They appear to have made sure that salary cap wise they are ready to go in the FA market with they way they've gone about list management heading into 2012.

I reckon the club are across all the possible outcomes and would see this latest posturing by a player manager (going by the article) as just part and parcel of how the FA market is going to work

[blaisee]

He could also just ask to be traded billy. Of course the club would play hardball but if he really wants out he can get out. The question is does he really want out and why?

Not disputing that for a minute al

If he asks for a trade then, yep he's a good chance of going but if it is based solely on matching offers he stays

If he does ask for trade (and I don't believe he will) then the club again does the best deal it can for the Club.... again we win

Can I just add that I think people are forgetting the Club has worked bloody hard to position itself to be in strong position for FA. They hired Hartley who seems to across the various scenarios regarding not only FA but uncontracted players from other clubs.

They appear to have made sure that salary cap wise they are ready to go in the FA market with they way they've gone about list management heading into 2012.

I reckon the club are across all the possible outcomes and would see this latest posturing by a player manager (going by the article) as just part and parcel of how the FA market is going to work

at some point the club will have to make a decision as to whether to match $1m a year offer from a competitor , or let him walk for 2 first round draft picks in a super draft.

Either way at this point it is fair to say that he hasn't shown the loyalty that Jack, Cotch and dusty have shown.

[dwaino]

I understand we hold the cards and all that, but if he wants to go then there isn't much good in keeping him around if he would rather be somewhere else.

Sydeny did it with Ryan O'Keefe 4 or so years ago. He wanted to come home to Melb,they couldn't do a trade and he stayed and has since (last year IIRC) signed another long term contract that will ensure he is a Swan for life.

Tigers can do the same

and FWIW there's not a doubt in my mind that the Tigers will match any offer Lids receives, they cannot afford not too 

I understand restricted agency and completely understand where you're coming from in your previous posts, but if (hypothetically) Carlton were chucking something stupid at him and he was keen as mustard, do we match it even though his heart isn't in it? I see your O'Keefe example, but this is different in that we're talking about a league star being head hunted.

Just my 2 cents anyway. I'm going to try and stay optimistic.

[WilliamPowell]

Either way at this point it is fair to say that he hasn't shown the loyalty that Jack, Cotch and dusty have shown.

He hasn't? Why because hasn't signed a contract extension now?

The fact that since he was drafted he has re-signed twice I think shows he's been very loyal, especially considering last time (2009) he knocked back some pretty decent offers from other clubs to remain at the tigers

[smasha]

All this means is-"I want to stay but I want us to play finals or I'm going"

Lids is feeling older and is desperate for finals action so is Newy.

[tony_montana]

fair enough call on his behalf

if we continue to make progress and head in the right direction this year he will stay regardless of whether we actually play finals or not - if we go backwards and challenge for the spoon, things may get interesting...

Either way Im happy, Love Lids as a player but 2 x 1st round draft picks if he leaves is fine by me also

[WA Tiger]

Pretty crappy on Bretts behalf if you ask me, commit to the club now or stuff off now. Look at how Abblet affected Geelong...all bloody year, thats all we herad. How the hell can the rest of the players concerntrate on finals or week to week aith this poo goiung on.

Shame on you Deledio, if he goes so does my membership and AFL all together for mine, its just not worth trying to rebuild time and time again after losing players like this...if we do. Clubs like the Blues or the Pies get stronger because players like Lids go there (example) while clubs like us get weaker......

Not happy Jan...

RFC and Deledio should of had this sorted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ox]

speaks volumes ....

[Mr Magic]

Good to see Lids following on from the examples of Cotchin & Martin..

[Mr Magic]

So in your view Magic the FA rules that favour the RFC are redundant in your case as well? 

How so?

If he wants to go, the club won't match a motza to keep him. Why would you pay top dollar for a disgruntled player?