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Mark Seaby
« Reply #75 on: July 15, 2009, 12:24:10 PM »
Ok, so next year we will go in again deficiant in the ruck division if Vickery plays a more forward role. Gus is there and is doing ok but he needs a real big pre-season and I am worried he will be prone to injury. Patto is at his best a CHF and a last resort as a ruckman and Putt is a long way off. Simmonds is also finished.

Last year we made a plea for Seaby but we did not have the trade bait and the Eagles backed off. Also Seaby still had a year on his contract so the Eagles had all the cards. This year if Seaby is out of contract we will be in charge.. totally.

Seaby has not IMO been given sufficient game or ground time and he must be a bit frustrated, due to the fact that Worsfold will not play two ruckmen in the same team and relys on others to cover for Cox when tired. I think Seaby is out of contract this year (unless he signed for longer) and is only 26 years old. With a solid pre-season and a new club and coach do we need him at the RFC?? His details are below but as I mentioned he has had little game time this year so don't be too judgemental.

It will be interesting to see if he plays this week with Cox and Natanui out.

 
Mark Seaby
Jumper Number 14
Height 200
Weight 99
DOB 01/05/1984
Recruited From West Perth (WA)
Career Matches 100
Career Goals 64

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After being a regular for much of his career, Seaby found himself out of the West Coast line-up last season as John Worsfold opted to use Quinten Lynch as Dean Cox's understudy in the ruck. As a result of his form slump, the hard working ruckman only played 14 games, averaging 10 disposals and 11 hitouts per game. Seaby has always played second fiddle to Dean Cox and is due to play his 100th game this season. With the arrival of Nicholas Naitanui, he will need to work hard for a game going forward.

season stats
Kicks 11 Tackles 5
Handballs 14 Goals 0
Disposal 25 Behinds 0
Disposal Efficiency 68% Score Assists 1
Contested Possessions 11 Time on ground 60% (3 Matches)
Uncontested Possessions 13 Super coach 141 pts (474th)

game by game K H D DE% CP UP T G B AS
TOTAL 11 14 25 68% 11 13 5 0 0 1
Averages 4 5 8 68% 4 4 2 0 0 0
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Re: Mark Seaby
« Reply #76 on: July 15, 2009, 12:29:44 PM »
Ok, so next year we will go in again deficiant in the ruck division if Vickery plays a more forward role. Gus is there and is doing ok but he needs a real big pre-season and I am worried he will be prone to injury. Patto is at his best a CHF and a last resort as a ruckman and Putt is a long way off. Simmonds is also finished.

Last year we made a plea for Seaby but we did not have the trade bait and the Eagles backed off. Also Seaby still had a year on his contract so the Eagles had all the cards. This year if Seaby is out of contract we will be in charge.. totally.

Seaby has not IMO been given sufficient game or ground time and he must be a bit frustrated, due to the fact that Worsfold will not play two ruckmen in the same team and relys on others to cover for Cox when tired. I think Seaby is out of contract this year (unless he signed for longer) and is only 26 years old. With a solid pre-season and a new club and coach do we need him at the RFC?? His details are below but as I mentioned he has had little game time this year so don't be too judgemental.

It will be interesting to see if he plays this week with Cox and Natanui out.

 
Mark Seaby
Jumper Number 14
Height 200
Weight 99
DOB 01/05/1984
Recruited From West Perth (WA)
Career Matches 100
Career Goals 64

about
After being a regular for much of his career, Seaby found himself out of the West Coast line-up last season as John Worsfold opted to use Quinten Lynch as Dean Cox's understudy in the ruck. As a result of his form slump, the hard working ruckman only played 14 games, averaging 10 disposals and 11 hitouts per game. Seaby has always played second fiddle to Dean Cox and is due to play his 100th game this season. With the arrival of Nicholas Naitanui, he will need to work hard for a game going forward.

season stats
Kicks 11 Tackles 5
Handballs 14 Goals 0
Disposal 25 Behinds 0
Disposal Efficiency 68% Score Assists 1
Contested Possessions 11 Time on ground 60% (3 Matches)
Uncontested Possessions 13 Super coach 141 pts (474th)

game by game K H D DE% CP UP T G B AS
TOTAL 11 14 25 68% 11 13 5 0 0 1
Averages 4 5 8 68% 4 4 2 0 0 0


i dont think we need another ruckman, especially a second string b grade ruckman, especially a second string b grade ruckman that the eagles value as a 1st or 2nd round draft pick.

We have Gus Patto and Vickery that can all share the ruck duties, all can rest forward as well. In addition we have Putt and Browne.

Thats 5 200cm players under the age of 22.

No need for Seaby IMHO

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Re: Mark Seaby
« Reply #77 on: July 15, 2009, 12:50:55 PM »
Maybe if u went to a few games you will notice that this is a pathetic thread that should not even be entertained if we are to be serious

WE DONT NEED TO TRADE OUR PICKS AWAY FOR RUBBISH RUCKMAN

it's what has got us into this mess IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Woosha is a smart operator and if he doesn't play Seaby, well maybe just because its because he is S H I T.

Rocket same deal. Didnt play Mclovin because well he is s h i t also.

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Re: Mark Seaby
« Reply #78 on: July 15, 2009, 12:56:26 PM »
I expect Browne to step up next year and play a prominent role.  No requirement for Seaby (who I think is only very average at best).  You must ask "how come Worsfold plays Lynch as 2nd ruckman if Seaby is any good"?

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Re: Mark Seaby
« Reply #79 on: July 15, 2009, 12:56:33 PM »
Maybe if u went to a few games you will notice that this is a pathetic thread that should not even be entertained if we are to be serious

WE DONT NEED TO TRADE OUR PICKS AWAY FOR RUBBISH RUCKMAN

it's what has got us into this mess IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Woosha is a smart operator and if he doesn't play Seaby, well maybe just because its because he is S H I T.

Rocket same deal. Didnt play Mclovin because well he is s h i t also.

NO MORE TRADING OUR PICKS AWAY FOR HAS BEENS PLEASE



Maybe if u went to a few games you will notice that this is a pathetic thread that should not even be entertained if we are to be serious

Pathetic comment and very immature, please don't comment if you are incapable of holding a decent conversation.

WE DONT NEED TO TRADE OUR PICKS AWAY FOR RUBBISH RUCKMAN

Where did I say trade away picks? That is something you have made up in la la land between your ears

Woosha is a smart operator and if he doesn't play Seaby, well maybe just because its because he is S H I T.

Why did he keep him then??

Rocket same deal. Didnt play Mclovin because well he is s h i t also.

Another weak and inept chance to bag somone else at the club

NO MORE TRADING OUR PICKS AWAY FOR HAS BEENS PLEASE

WTF...???????????? Where did I say that
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Re: Mark Seaby
« Reply #80 on: July 15, 2009, 01:03:29 PM »
I expect Browne to step up next year and play a prominent role.  No requirement for Seaby (who I think is only very average at best).  You must ask "how come Worsfold plays Lynch as 2nd ruckman if Seaby is any good"?

Good call Smokey although I hope Browne comes along quicker than Putt and Gus. I think that Seaby is out of favour at the club because he wanted to leave last year.
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“We are really excited about what we have brought in. We have got great depth of players that can take us where we need to go. We are just putting some cream on the top at the moment,” he said.

"Rucks:
Shaun Hampson is the No.1 man"

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Re: Mark Seaby
« Reply #81 on: July 15, 2009, 01:17:04 PM »
Maybe if u went to a few games you will notice that this is a pathetic thread that should not even be entertained if we are to be serious

WE DONT NEED TO TRADE OUR PICKS AWAY FOR RUBBISH RUCKMAN

it's what has got us into this mess IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Woosha is a smart operator and if he doesn't play Seaby, well maybe just because its because he is S H I T.

Rocket same deal. Didnt play Mclovin because well he is s h i t also.

NO MORE TRADING OUR PICKS AWAY FOR HAS BEENS PLEASE



Maybe if u went to a few games you will notice that this is a pathetic thread that should not even be entertained if we are to be serious

Pathetic comment and very immature, please don't comment if you are incapable of holding a decent conversation.

WE DONT NEED TO TRADE OUR PICKS AWAY FOR RUBBISH RUCKMAN

Where did I say trade away picks? That is something you have made up in la la land between your ears

Woosha is a smart operator and if he doesn't play Seaby, well maybe just because its because he is S H I T.

Why did he keep him then??

Rocket same deal. Didnt play Mclovin because well he is s h i t also.

Another weak and inept chance to bag somone else at the club

NO MORE TRADING OUR PICKS AWAY FOR HAS BEENS PLEASE

WTF...???????????? Where did I say that

ooh please give me a break you have been found out pal. Its okay deal with it.

how do u think we would be able to get him? free trade. in order to be able to get Seaby we would have to offer up a draft pick or another player, which should be used on the draft.

you knew exactly what you meant and i am saying to you that we dont need has beens at our footy club.

Enough is Enough with that crap. Its time for a full rebuild no ifs no buts a FULL Rebuild.

Less money on rubbish players from other clubs and that money should be heavily invested on our youngsters.

if that means each player gets 2 development coaches then so be it.

Development and the draft should be our main focus nothing else

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Re: Mark Seaby
« Reply #82 on: July 15, 2009, 01:23:52 PM »
Wouldn't give any more than a 4th round pick for Seaby and that won't get him.

I'd be very surprised if we are very active in the buying market this season. I think a new coach would want to have a good look (~ 1 season) at what he's got before discarding draft picks.


Gus is doing OK for where he is at. he got carved up by Kreuzer and friends but plenty of established rucks will and he will get better. How has Browne been going @Coburg?

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Re: Mark Seaby
« Reply #83 on: July 15, 2009, 02:05:40 PM »
Same scenario was put up during trade week last year and the answer was no then.
It's no now.

I would not tank for the rest of the year and get a guzillion picks and early picks to trade for Seaby and give a fellow tanking rival an extra pick. No way RFC do not be stupid.

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Re: Mark Seaby
« Reply #84 on: July 15, 2009, 02:27:52 PM »
Browne will play ruck next year with Patto pinch hitting. Give Vickery a couple of years to develop his body in the forwardline and then he will make a dangerous mobile ruckman.

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Re: Mark Seaby
« Reply #85 on: July 15, 2009, 02:51:51 PM »
Wouldn't give any more than a 4th round pick for Seaby and that won't get him.

I'd be very surprised if we are very active in the buying market this season. I think a new coach would want to have a good look (~ 1 season) at what he's got before discarding draft picks.


Gus is doing OK for where he is at. he got carved up by Kreuzer and friends but plenty of established rucks will and he will get better. How has Browne been going @Coburg?

Yep thats going to help our club isn't it.

no to 4th round picks no to 8th round picks.

Gus is doing great, Vickery is exciting. lets develop Browne and Patto straight to the tip


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Re: Mark Seaby
« Reply #86 on: July 15, 2009, 03:32:17 PM »
Just my thoughts on Seaby....

Every now and then there are players who are in the right place at the right time and end up premiership players.I think Seaby falls into that catergory.

His contribution in the 06 grand final was only 2 handballs and 6 hit outs.

Having said that if the Eagles are dumb enough to consider a straight swap for Cogs.......Maybe.
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Re: Mark Seaby
« Reply #87 on: July 15, 2009, 03:57:21 PM »
West Coast wanted our first rounder for Seaby last year!

This year when Cox was injured, Seaby didn't even get a game. They let 3rd gamer Naitanui shoulder the ruck duties.

I think that says plenty about Seaby.
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Re: Mark Seaby
« Reply #88 on: July 15, 2009, 04:06:31 PM »
Would rather develop Browne + draft another ruckman with late pick

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Re: Mark Seaby
« Reply #89 on: July 15, 2009, 08:32:07 PM »
Perhaps our 2nd pick in the PSD I would consider him
Would rather use our first pick on a kids that's trained with us, similar to how the Demons picked up Jurrah