The problem is Oren is slow, old, non agile and pretty much just not good enough to play afl as a forward option.
so dont play him as a forward.play him purely as a ruckman and send ivan forward and play griffiths as a ff. what rule says he must play as a forward. other sides are playing two ruckmen.
big o will come up against griffen and possibly clark both second stringers. if it gets out of hand theres always ivan. ivan is definately sore and struggling why not give him a game where he spends 50% in the ruck 10 % forward and 40 % on the bench
My thought is that he will be slow, old, non agile and pretty much just not good enough wherever he plays, may as well as kept the King Island Cream Puff
what you hedging your bets. he is slow he is old and he lacks agility. no he will be anything.
but as a ruckman he competes and he goes okay. something both graham and vickery dont didnt do. certainly get more out of him in the ruck than vickery who has a heart the size of a pea. geez again mumford and pyke are slow and lack agility pyke is what 29yo so one of them is old.
to me now is the ideal time to give this bloke a game and take some work load off big ivan who is clearly struggling.
your going to be real unhappy if ivan has to start taking every other week off to manage his problem. touchy things groins.
simply put stephenson is in better form than vickery atm play him and give ivan a decent rest. imo ivan has played some decent footy for adelaide prmarily as a forward. always taken marks forward and as such has to respected.
The real odd thing is that you keep on going on about getting games into the young cubs but right here instead of getting games into a developing KPF you want to give a 30 year old games who isn't up to AFL standard.
It's like you have a personal issue against Vickery
first and foremost i have no personal issue with vickey thats impossible ive never met him. by the way vickery is not up to afl standard atm.
i dont have an issue with older players the preseason debates that went on should have made you aware of that. yes i have a preference for youth but not at all costs.
its funny im pushing to play a young kpf in vickerys place his name is ben griffiths. todd elton or dave astbury would also do..
im also pushing to give the only decent ruckman we have some genuine backup before he breaks down completely. unless you havent noticed the only real option to give ivan a genuine rest in the ruck is a 30 yr old.
kids or not i dont believe we should be REGULARLY playing blokes who are terrible. give em a decent go with blocks of 3 or 5 games and if they struggle back to coburg to work on what they have learnt.
vickery has stuggled for 90% of his career yet we refuse to drop him be stuffed if i know why. we do have other options so why gift 23 yo men games. time for vickery to EARN HIS KEEP.
damn right im pushing to play some of the cubs and by the way vickery while young is 23 in a months time hes hardly a cub who needs treating with kid gloves.
the only reason im into vickery is because he is bloody horrible as a player atm and hes been horrible for a long while.
finally. you will know i have an issue with vickery when i start calling for the club to delist or trade him . ive never done that because i think like most supporters he has some talent but he cant live on the potential tag forever.
