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Re: Polak for Cousins? / Cousins to Richmond with PSD pick 7
« Reply #45 on: December 10, 2008, 11:30:24 PM »
6PR are getting emails saying lots will support Richmond if he comes here.
They're peeed off that the Eagles didn't support him, so they'd go and support us instead.



 they only want to be supporting a team that finishs in the top 8 and not a bottom 3 side again  biggest bunch of loosers going around
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Re: Polak for Cousins? / Cousins to Richmond with PSD pick 7
« Reply #46 on: December 11, 2008, 12:02:59 AM »
6PR are getting emails saying lots will support Richmond if he comes here.
They're peeed off that the Eagles didn't support him, so they'd go and support us instead.



Could be good for membership.

i'm with you.  if this comes off and we give cousins a lifeline.  i reckon we'll get alot of positive media for giving cousins a go.  membership would go up and round 1 v carlton would be a sell out game. (our home game by the way....great for revenue)

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Re: Polak for Cousins? / Cousins to Richmond with PSD pick 7
« Reply #47 on: December 11, 2008, 12:35:19 AM »
Always said get him.

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Re: Polak for Cousins? / Cousins to Richmond with PSD pick 7
« Reply #48 on: December 11, 2008, 01:46:28 AM »
If this happens, that we do select Cousins, then that tells you something about the influence of Kevin Sheedy doesn't it, irrespective of the rightness or the wrongness of the decision.
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Re: Polak for Cousins? / Cousins to Richmond with PSD pick 7
« Reply #49 on: December 11, 2008, 03:51:52 AM »
Meh.

I cannot wait until the PSD is over.

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Re: Polak for Cousins? / Cousins to Richmond with PSD pick 7
« Reply #50 on: December 11, 2008, 05:18:02 AM »
Richmond were contacted on Wednesday night but declined to comment directly on Cousins.

But, in a statement, the club said: "The Richmond Football Club confirms that it wrote to the AFL seeking permission for Graham Polak to be placed on the rookie list for 2009, under compassionate grounds.

"The application was made with the full support of Polak, in the knowledge that he is still undertaking extensive rehabilitation after suffering an acquired brain injury earlier this year.

"The Richmond Football Club does not want to preempt the decision of (the) AFL commission and as such will not be making comment about potential draft selections until a decision is handed down next Monday."

In the past few weeks we have come out straight away and directly said no when the media have linked us to Cousins but now all of a sudden it's we're making no comment. Unless Craig Cameron comes out today and repeats his no stance then you'd presume we've done a 180 degree turn on Cousins. Who said Wallace and Sheeds couldn't agree  :whistle.
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Rival clubs to oppose Richmond's draft bid / bid draws mixed reaction (H-Sun)
« Reply #51 on: December 11, 2008, 05:23:17 AM »
Rival clubs to oppose Richmond's draft bid
Damian Barrett | December 11, 2008

AFL clubs are expected to oppose Richmond's request for a special draft concession that would effectively allow it to add Ben Cousins to its main playing list.

Yesterday the Tigers formally asked the AFL for special permission to place Graham Polak, badly injured after being hit by a tram, on their rookie list for the 2009 season.

If successful, Richmond would have two selections at Tuesday's pre-season draft, the second of which it is strongly considering using on Cousins.

The Tigers board discussed Polak's situation two days ago, including the opening that could be created for Cousins.

At least three clubs, one of them Collingwood, were last night preparing to oppose the Tigers' request if it meant Cousins would be selected.

They argue that if Richmond wants Cousins, it should be forced to use the selection it already has in the pre-season draft, not via a pick to compensate for Polak.

The Herald Sun believes a medical report on Polak lists several conditions that will prevent him playing competitive football for a long time.

The AFL last night confirmed the Tigers' request, which is attempting to use as a precedent Essendon's permission to rookie-list cancer sufferer Adam Ramanauskas.

AFL football operations manager Adrian Anderson said Richmond was seeking the right to place Polak on its rookie list while he continued treatment and rehabilitation for the shocking injuries he suffered when hit by the tram.

The AFL Commission will meet on Monday to decide Richmond's request.

As always with the commission, it has the power to make whatever decision it sees fit, regardless of outside opinion and feedback.

Polak has contributed to the Tigers' submission to the AFL, writing that he has been grateful for the club's support since his accident.

He has said his place on the club's list would be better filled by a player fully equipped to play competitively.

Collingwood strongly considered drafting Cousins before deciding against it, as did St Kilda and Brisbane.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24783559-19742,00.html

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Graham Polak rookie bid draws mixed reaction (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #52 on: December 11, 2008, 05:49:51 AM »
Graham Polak rookie bid draws mixed reaction
Jon Ralph | December 11, 2008

RICHMOND'S bid to transfer Graham Polak to its rookie list has drawn mixed reactions from rival clubs suspicious of its timing and motives.

The Tigers alerted the AFL to the move yesterday after a board meeting believed to have been on Tuesday night.

Most clubs have responded positively to Polak's plight and Essendon yesterday supported the Tigers' action.

But Collingwood president Eddie McGuire wondered aloud whether Richmond was using sympathy for Polak, who was hit by a tram in June, to get another pre-season pick.

McGuire said on 3AW last night the Tigers should have lodged a submission on the issue before the national draft on November 29.

"Maybe I am getting old and cynical . . . I will want some answers about why this wasn't done before the draft so everyone knew what was going on. There are a lot of question marks," McGuire said.

"We have had a long time to think about Ben Cousins and any player with an ongoing injury. These things should have been discussed before the national draft.

"We just have to remember the Adam Ramanauskas case was a one-off. It wasn't a precedent. It was in totally different circumstances."

Essendon broke new ground when it successfully argued to have Ramanauskas, who had cancer, put on the club's 2007 rookie list.

Essendon chief executive Peter Jackson last night said the club supported Richmond's move. "It is a more than reasonable decision. It is about common sense and we fully support it," he said.

"After what happened with Adam Ramanauskas, it is only right that Graham Polak should be afforded the same opportunities."

Carlton last night supported the decision in principle, but was concerned about its effect on pre-season draft order.

Blues chief executive Greg Swann said yesterday the club approved of Polak being given special dispensation.

Richmond has the sixth pick in the pre-season draft and would be given the seventh, and last, if its request is approved.

"We have no issue with them doing it, it's just we are not sure they should get a second pick in the pre-season draft," Swann said.

"Should they get a nominated rookie, or another pick in the pre-season draft?"

Swann said Melbourne might be directly affected, with the Blues not far behind.

"If you give Richmond another pick, they might pick a bloke that Melbourne wanted in the rookie draft and maybe that isn't fair.

"Then again is a pre-season pick the only way for them to have a full list?

"We need to discuss it before we lodge our submission."

Geelong chief executive Brian Cook said the club's football department would discuss its submission today.

"It's probably in line with the Adam Ramanauskas situation, but we don't know enough yet to decide either way," he said.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24783561-19742,00.html

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Richmond clears way for Ben Cousins - Mike Sheahan
« Reply #53 on: December 11, 2008, 06:05:18 AM »
Richmond clears way for Ben Cousins
Michael Sheahan | December 11, 2008

RICHMOND could give Ben Cousins a lifeline to play in the AFL again.

Just when it seemed all over, the Tigers last night emerged as potential saviours.

They are pushing for an extra selection at Tuesday's pre-season draft, which may be the fallen Brownlow medallist's last chance for 2009.

If the AFL agrees to Richmond's request to place injured defender Graham Polak on the rookie list - with Polak's approval - the Tigers will get an extra pick: the seventh and last in the pre-season draft.

Richmond coach Terry Wallace told the Herald Sun last night: "I can confirm an application has been lodged . . . to place Graham Polak on the rookie list, but we can't say anything else because we can't pre-empt what the AFL Commission will or won't do."

Wallace would not comment on 30-year-old Cousins, but sources say he is warming to the idea of giving him the chance to persuade the Tigers he is worth the risk.

Polak, who was seriously injured when hit by a tram in September, is believed to have accepted that his chances of playing next year are slim.

He is believed to have encouraged the Tigers' football department to act in the best interests of the club.

Richmond's attitude to Cousins will be decided as soon as the AFL responds.

If the commission agrees to the request - as it did in the case of Essendon's Adam Ramanauskas while he recovered from cancer - the Tigers look certain to explore the idea of giving the former West Coast star a chance.

It would be a huge risk, one none of the other 15 clubs is prepared to take, but the potential upside is also huge.

Cousins would have to meet stringent conditions but, given his position, he can be expected to gleefully agree.

The 2005 Brownlow medallist and recovering drug addict couldn't expect more than a one-year contract on modest money, but the terms and conditions have become secondary since he faced the reality his career might be over.

Despite reports of divisions on Cousins at Punt Rd, the lure of a one-time top-10 player has to be enticing for a club that finished ninth this year.

The possibility of grabbing Cousins surfaced during recent days as Richmond and Polak came to the realisation his recovery was going to take longer than hoped.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24782747-661,00.html

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Re: Polak for Cousins? / Cousins to Richmond with PSD pick 7
« Reply #54 on: December 11, 2008, 06:06:27 AM »
Herald-Sun photoshop job



It's frontpage news btw


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Re: Polak for Cousins? / Cousins to Richmond with PSD pick 7
« Reply #55 on: December 11, 2008, 07:03:09 AM »
but would much rather us get permission to demote Polak, watch and listen to Eddie stew and bitch and whinge, then take a kid anyway, telling the whole football world in the end that there is no place or tolerance for drugs of any type in sport. 

That would be funny, I would get a real good laugh out of that


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Re: Polak for Cousins? / Cousins to Richmond with PSD pick 7
« Reply #56 on: December 11, 2008, 07:54:07 AM »
With the picture of Cousins clowning around in our guernsy. It really show that he would have no trouble in finding a vein to shoot up.
I don't want he and I have said it from day one, no to him.
I honestly hope that this is just talk and thats as far as it goes.
I know I would never throw away my membership over it but I know I will hope he gets injured when he walks out on the park each and every time.
Their is no other player that does not deserve to play agian, and he is it.   :banghead :banghead TROUBLE.  :banghead :banghead

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Re: Polak for Cousins? / Cousins to Richmond with PSD pick 7
« Reply #57 on: December 11, 2008, 08:29:17 AM »
Yeah I agree with Bushranger.

Remember on OER when Diggler or Laff were always tearing up their membership cards .....

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Re: Polak for Cousins? / Cousins to Richmond with PSD pick 7
« Reply #58 on: December 11, 2008, 08:44:57 AM »
6PR are getting emails saying lots will support Richmond if he comes here.
They're peeed off that the Eagles didn't support him, so they'd go and support us instead.



Sheedy is a genius.

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Re: Polak for Cousins? / Cousins to Richmond with PSD pick 7
« Reply #59 on: December 11, 2008, 08:45:09 AM »
SEN had Greg Miller just on.

Greg believes all clubs should back Polak going onto the mature rookie list.

Greg had received regular updates on Cousins all year.

Ricky Nixon has told him there's still a few clubs interested.

There's some article in the West Australian today which says Ben has been more proactive behind the scenes with clubs recently. I'll see if there's a online link to it.

Greg reckons Richmond has the ability and resources at the club to handle Cousins and his situation. Terry a strong upfront leader plus Kane Johnson and Browny.

Cousins had some issues 5-6 months ago but things are okay now. He's worth the punt and Greg believes Cousins won't let you down.

Essendon are supporting our application because we strongly supported Rama's application.  Richmond will be telling other clubs this to put pressure on them.

Jim Stynes basically said Melbourne will be supporting our Polak application.