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Re: Rival clubs to oppose Richmond's draft bid / bid draws mixed reaction (H-Sun)
« Reply #150 on: December 15, 2008, 04:23:42 AM »
Adelaide chief executive Steven Trigg and Geelong boss Brian Cook are worried about the precedent it will set.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24799190-5012432,00.html

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Several big issues on table for commission meeting (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #151 on: December 15, 2008, 04:29:45 AM »
Several big issues on table for commission meeting
Damian Barrett | December 15, 2008

AFL commissioners gather in Melbourne today to debate a varied and complex mix of issues that will change football as we know it.

The commission must make final decisions on at least two pressing issues and thrash out at least another three strategic matters.

All that before they open inevitable talk on the world economic downturn and how it will most affect the game.

Richmond's request for special permission to place Graham Polak on the rookie list needs an answer today.

The other clubs have spoken and most don't like the idea at all, but the AFL commission will, as always, do as it wants with Polak.

It knows, though, that allowing the Tigers the right to place Polak, badly injured this year in a tram accident, on the rookie list would set an interesting precedent.

Polak going on to the rookie list is likely to guarantee Ben Cousins becoming a Richmond player next year, so there is a lot to factor in.

Also requiring a ruling is the rushed behinds issue.

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Big-picture issues of expansion on the Gold Coast and western Sydney, and to a lesser extent Tasmania, will also be discussed.

It is possible the commission today will formally award the game's 17th licence to the GC17 consortium.

There was a time when the December gathering of AFL commissioners consisted of a quick chat about the next year, a few slaps on the back for the success of the year just gone and then some Christmas drinks.

Not so in recent years, and particularly not so today.

Full article here:
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24799308-19742,00.html

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AFL to decide Ben Cousins' fate at today's commission meeting (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #152 on: December 15, 2008, 04:31:26 AM »
AFL to decide Ben Cousins' fate at today's commission meeting
Gerard Healy | December 15, 2008

IT'S D-Day for the AFL Commission on Ben Cousins. Either the commission opens the way for Cousins to become a Richmond footballer when it meets today, or it will have failed a test of courage.

The commission has left it up to the clubs whether to let Cousins play again, but today it must assume responsibility for that decision.

When the commission approved Cousins' draft nomination with appropriately strict one-strike conditions - despite the fallen star not producing a hair test to prove he was drug-free and continuing rumblings about his recovery and decision-making - it shifted responsibility to the clubs.

History shows us that it was all too cloudy and no one was prepared to accept the risk and pick up Cousins.

Richmond has effectively handed back the responsibility to the AFL.

Despite an amazingly positive public reaction to the Tigers' bid for Cousins, they decided not to end the speculation on Friday and take the heat out of the Graham Polak decision by announcing they would take Cousins with pick six in tomorrow's pre-season draft.

They refused to let the commission off the hook.

Effectively, Richmond wants the AFL to sanction the Cousins drafting plan - and share responsibility for the decision - by granting an extra pick in tomorrow's draft.

That pick would be created by allowing the club to place Polak on the rookie list while he recovers from a serious head injury.

If the Tigers don't get the extra selection, they could take Cousins with pick six and get an extra rookie, whose wage would not be included in the salary cap.

A firm declaration of their intention to draft Cousins regardless of what happens today would also have capitalised on a positive week for the club.

That they chose not to was an indication of how strongly they believe the commission must play a greater role in determining Cousins' future.

It also indicates how nervous the Richmond administration is about its image, and perhaps the decision itself, which is probably justified.

If they miss out on Cousins however, because the Commission fails to ignore the shallow protestations regarding Polak then they will have missed a massive opportunity, both from a commercial and club perspective.

The backlash from potential members, and possibly sponsors, is self-evident given last weeks avalanche of support for the idea of Cousins in a Tigers jumper.

Of similar importance is the apparently unifying effect this challenge has had on the club. Three months ago there appeared divisions within the clubs administration that were eroding the positive message their improved playing stocks, and 2009 potential, should have sent.

As they stood resolute on Friday in their defiance of pressure to use Pick 6 there was not a division to be seen but watch them reappear if Cousins does not.

Its a high risk strategy but the odds are with the Tigers for the Commission have a simple decision. The Polak injury, a neural deficit problem which has uncertain outcomes both physically and emotionally, should be treated in isolation to other football injuries.

Despite the obvious tragic nature of the injuries to Matt Egan of Geelong and Trent Henschel of the Adelaide Crows, they dont have the same sensitivities associated with them as any serious head injury whether caused on or off the ground.

Like serious disease, brain damage is a unique category of injury. Surely that is not a difficult concept to grasp and will allow the Commission the license to override any conflict with the rules whilst still enjoying the support of the bulk of the competition.

The Commission will find in favour of Richmond and Polak and create Pick 7 and therefore giving Ben Cousins a final chance to write a positive ending to his turbulent career and hopefully rebuild his life in the same environment that saw it implode. But it will only be a chance and no guarantee as Cousins has had many chances in the past and elected to ignore the warning signs.

If he ignores this one, losing his football career and public respect will be the least of his problems.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24799548-19742,00.html

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Re: Polak for Cousins? / Cousins to Richmond with PSD pick 7
« Reply #153 on: December 15, 2008, 07:59:57 AM »
I know one player will not make the gate taking that much bigger,but none the less if they are worried about the down turn in our sports. With Ben in surely he woud make a big impacted early on in the gates as everyone and their dog would want to see this curcus called Ben Cousins on the feild again.
So for them to disallow it would be them really failing the game. If you looked at it this way.
But interest in him would stop sooner rather than later and then it would increase again when we play over in the West for the first time.

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Re: Several big issues on table for commission meeting (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #154 on: December 15, 2008, 08:17:56 AM »
Several big issues on table for commission meeting
Damian Barrett | December 15, 2008

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The other clubs have spoken and most don't like the idea at all, but the AFL commission will, as always, do as it wants with Polak.

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From an article in today's Age by Jesse Hogan (quoted in another thread):

"The AFL last week wrote to all clubs to gauge their views on Richmond's request, which the Tigers justified on the basis Polak was "still undertaking extensive rehabilitation after suffering an acquired brain injury". Fremantle and Collingwood have expressed opposition to the request."

Is Damien Barrett a complete moron who failed elementary maths in Grade 1 or just have a blind bias/hatred against Richmond?

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Re: Polak for Cousins? / Cousins to Richmond with PSD pick 7
« Reply #155 on: December 15, 2008, 08:39:03 AM »
The meeting has started (8:30) and will finish at around 2-2:30.
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Geelong to seek making Egan a rookie if Polak is (Geelong Addy)
« Reply #156 on: December 15, 2008, 09:04:12 AM »
What about Matthew Egan?
Geelong Advertiser
Daniel Breen
December 15th, 2008

SHOULD Richmond be given the green light to put Graham Polak on the rookie list, Geelong will look to do the same with injured defender Matthew Egan.

Geelong president Frank Costa yesterday revealed the Cats would seek clarity on the Egan situation if the AFL allowed the Tigers to bend the rules and list tram crash victim Polak as a mature-age rookie for 2009.

"Tomorrow is going to be an interesting result, not just whether they clear the way for Richmond to recruit Ben Cousins but also determining what the rules are for the other clubs," Costa said yesterday.

"We're not putting any pressure on the AFL, this is a testing time for them, but we have asked the league for an open understanding of what the AFL feels on it and what it would mean if they allowed this to happen.

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Re: Polak for Cousins? / Cousins to Richmond with PSD pick 7
« Reply #157 on: December 15, 2008, 09:08:40 AM »
Any team that goes against us we want to remember them and one day when they need something to go through just give the a polite nod and tell them to pee off.  :banghead

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Re: Polak for Cousins? / Cousins to Richmond with PSD pick 7
« Reply #158 on: December 15, 2008, 09:37:21 AM »
The meeting has started (8:30) and will finish at around 2-2:30.
Yep an announcement to be made around 2:30 with a media conference to follow.

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Re: Polak for Cousins? / Cousins to Richmond with PSD pick 7
« Reply #159 on: December 15, 2008, 09:43:00 AM »
I will put my listening ears on.

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Re: Rival clubs to oppose Richmond's draft bid / bid draws mixed reaction (H-Sun)
« Reply #160 on: December 15, 2008, 10:34:30 AM »
It's sad what has happened to Egan as you don't want to see any footballer suffer a serious injury but like Browny and Cogs it's a football injury and unfortunately it's part of the game. Whereas getting almost killed by a tram and suffering serious brain injury is a freak accident outside of football. How many times do we need to explain this  ???.
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Barassi backs Tigers move
« Reply #161 on: December 15, 2008, 11:13:21 AM »
Barassi backs Tigers move
December 15, 2008 7.21am WST

AS the AFL Commission gathers to discuss Richmond's Graham Polak request, Ron Barassi has given the move a thumbs-up.

The Commission arrived at AFL House this morning to discuss, among other matters, whether to approve Richmond's proposal to list Polak as a rookie.

That decision - which would pave the way for Richmond to draft Cousins - is expected to be announced at a press conference at 2.30pm this afternoon.

The commissioners - led by chairman Mike Fitzpatrick - had no comment for the waiting media pack this morning as they arrived for their final meeting of the year.

But Barassi has given his qualified support to the idea.

"If Richmond's game enough, and everything's right with Ben Cousins … we should give it a go," the AFL icon said on radio station 3AW today.

Barassi said the only reason it should not go ahead would be if the AFL needed to change the rules to allow Cousins to play.

While it would set a precedent, it is not believed that the AFL Commission would not need to change the rules to allow Richmond to move Graham Polak on to the rookie list.

http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/sport/afl/story/0,26633,24800816-5016215,00.html

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Re: Polak for Cousins? / Cousins to Richmond with PSD pick 7
« Reply #162 on: December 15, 2008, 11:43:18 AM »
Word out of the AFL meeting so far is the main talking point is whether moving Polak onto the rookie list will set a precedent.

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Re: Polak for Cousins? / Cousins to Richmond with PSD pick 7
« Reply #163 on: December 15, 2008, 12:46:00 PM »
Which is stupid, Ramanaskas set the precedent, now they just need to decide if Polak fits under that precedent

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Re: Polak for Cousins? / Cousins to Richmond with PSD pick 7
« Reply #164 on: December 15, 2008, 01:01:47 PM »
Robert Shaw said going by the existing rules with the LTIL and all this would be knocked back but he reckons the AFL will see an opportunity to help out two footballers in need and compassion will win out and the AFL will say yes. Let's hope so.

I reckon they must have made the decision by now after 4 1/2 hours given they also need time to discuss the GC17 licence and the new rushed behind rule as well. LOL at Andy D and co sitting back drinking scotch on the rocks talking about where they are going on holidays while they make us all wait  ;D.
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