IT'S TIME TO GO THE TANK- IT'S OUR ONLY HOPE! [merged]

[Judge Roughneck]

Look past your own agenda for a minute and maybe we as a club will be back somewhere you might be happy with.

My own agenda.... what would that be exactly? I'd love to know what you think my agenda actually is.

I know I am wasting my time with people like you but WHATEVER!!!

People like me? 

Just because I don't agree with your tanking views you say I live in fairyland and you reckon you are wasting your time on people like me. You are entitled to your view and I'm entitled to mine.

Maybe if we all think happy thoughts everything will change for the RFC or maybe we should get better players into our club and give ourselves a chance.

So are you saying that there is absolutely no upside regarding our list right at the minute?

Whether people want to admit it or not we actually do have some very good young players at the Club now and I want them to understand that winning is what matters not tanking. I want to them to believe they can win as opposed to going through season after season thinking well it's OK to lose because the Club will get some good draft picks this year

So forgive me because I actually think that there is some upside in relation to some of the young blokes on our list. granted we have made some shocking decisions over the years but we have actually got some right.

So if that's thinking happy thoughts then I am guilty

There is some.

If there was enough we would not be on equal wins with Freo or Melbourne right now - would we?

Do you not think we would have a better chance of winning games in 2-3 years from now, if we were to add a Jack Trengrove or Tom Scully?

[Judge Roughneck]

Big tone, what are meaningless wins exactly? Tell the players and supporters who sing the song the song after the game, the sacked coaches, the sponsers, the kids who have no idea of the intracies of the draft etc.what meaningless wins are. Most of all tell the supporters of this club who have stuck by them since 1980!

2007 - round 22
Carlton vs Melbourne

carlton lose; get kruzer + Judd
Melbourne get Cale Morton and 2 years of crap

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do you really think winning in round 22 after a crap season means anything? Richmond killed Melbourne last game, last season. we lost to carlton next game by 90 odd points, and lost to Melbourne round 4 

[TigerLand]

Lol Please..

Have won 1 more than Geelong who never tanked.

A few more than Collingwood who have never recieved a priority pick.

[Judge Roughneck]

Saints - won every game, 167.25%
 - saints 'tanked' 5 years ago - picke up Reiwoldt, Ball, Goddard etc. best players in leagues best side

Geelong build the side around 99/01 drafts, but won flags due t F/S picks. something we do have.

Collingwood yet to win more than 1 flag last 50 years. I would not be using that model to copy.


'lol please'? maybe you are right. If we win a few more games we might stll come 9th 

[Fishfinger]

Collingwood yet to win more than 1 flag last 50 years. I would not be using that model to copy.

Why are you using St Kilda as the model to copy then?  ??? Also yet to win more than 1 flag last 50 years.

Actually yet to win more than 1 flag last 110 years. Collected 26 wooden spoons though.

[Judge Roughneck]

2000

1 Nick Riewoldt Southport Sharks St Kilda
2 Justin Koschitzke Murray Bushrangers St Kilda

9 Kayne Pettifer Murray Bushrangers Richmond
10 Jordan McMahon Glenelg Western Bulldogs / Richmond


2001

2 Luke Ball Sandringham Dragons St Kilda
5 Xavier Clarke St Mary's Football Club St Kilda
13 Nick Dal Santo Bendigo Pioneers St Kilda

33 David Rodan Calder Cannons Richmond


2002

1 Brendan Goddard Gippsland U18 St. Kilda

12 Jay Schulz Woodville-West Torrens Football Club Richmond

[one-eyed]

According to a caller on 3aw, some Melbourne supporters are setting up a petition that if their Club is "stupid" and wins 2 more games they will not re-sign up as members next year.

[big tone]

Lol Please..

Have won 1 more than Geelong who never tanked.

A few more than Collingwood who have never recieved a priority pick.

I'm pretty sure Dale Thomas was a priority pick in 2005

[big tone]

To me it's simple- don't win more than four games and finish as low as possible and that will give us the best chance of picking who we want to be at your club next year. Who we pick is up to us, if we stuff it up, that is a different issue.
Just for the record i like singing the song too but i would like to do it more often and IMHO it think the best way to achieve that is to have better players on our list.

[one-eyed]

Lol Please..

Have won 1 more than Geelong who never tanked.

A few more than Collingwood who have never recieved a priority pick.

I'm pretty sure Dale Thomas was a priority pick in 2005

The Pies have had two priority picks

Priority Pick before Round 1

Carlton (3): Andrew Walker (2003), Marc Murphy (2005), Matthew Kreuzer (2007)

Hawthorn (3): Luke Hodge (2001 - traded by Freo), Jarryd Roughead (2004), Xavier Ellis (2005)

Collingwood (2): Josh Fraser (1999), Dale Thomas (2005)

St Kilda (2): Nick Riewoldt (2000), Luke Ball (2001)

W.Bulldogs (2): Adam Cooney (2003), Ryan Griffen (2004)

Fremantle (1): Paul Haselby (1999)

Melbourne (1): Colin Sylvia (2003)

Richmond (1): Brett Deledio (2004)

West Coast (1): Chris Judd (2001)




Priority pick after to Round 1

Carlton: Shaun Hampson (2006)

Essendon: Leroy Jetta (2006)

Melbourne: Sam Blease (2008)

Richmond: Alex Rance (2007)

West Coast: Luke Shuey (2008)

[Infamy]

Again problem lies within the resources for scouting.

Should go far and beyond to scot for 30 plus players that are draftable not a handful.

We don't get our wanted picks and we make rash decisions like Oakly Nicholls who should have gone pick 20+

JON was not a rash decision, Francis Jackson loved him, Miller did too. At the draft night when asked who's pick he was Miller joked that if he failed he was Francis' and if he was a success then he was his, although that may have been the other way around.

[Jackstar is back]

Again problem lies within the resources for scouting.

Should go far and beyond to scot for 30 plus players that are draftable not a handful.

We don't get our wanted picks and we make rash decisions like Oakly Nicholls who should have gone pick 20+

JON was not a rash decision, Francis Jackson loved him, Miller did too. At the draft night when asked who's pick he was Miller joked that if he failed he was Francis' and if he was a success then he was his, although that may have been the other way around.

Miller loved him big time

[Infamy]

Again problem lies within the resources for scouting.

Should go far and beyond to scot for 30 plus players that are draftable not a handful.

We don't get our wanted picks and we make rash decisions like Oakly Nicholls who should have gone pick 20+

JON was not a rash decision, Francis Jackson loved him, Miller did too. At the draft night when asked who's pick he was Miller joked that if he failed he was Francis' and if he was a success then he was his, although that may have been the other way around.

Miller loved him big time

They both did

[Smokey]

How many games have the Saints LOST this season?

 

When did they tank?

[one-eyed]

Kerr gone for the season with OP will help the Eagles chances of holding onto their PP  .