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Re: Draft Day 2009
« Reply #30 on: July 01, 2009, 05:05:59 AM »
West Coast probably wont get the priority pick now ... so thats a benefit for us. We need to continue to lose.

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Draft falls short of tall prospects (Age)
« Reply #31 on: July 02, 2009, 01:33:53 AM »
Draft falls short of tall prospects
Emma Quayle | July 2, 2009

A TOP 10 dominated by strong-bodied, versatile midfielders, a small, inconsistent group of taller talent and a shallow draft pool — these were among the recruiters' thoughts heading into the challenging last half of their season.

Western Australia won its second under-18 title in three years yesterday, wrapping up the national championships with a 48-point win over Vic Country while placing another large bunch of future AFL players on show.

Where Jack Watts, Nick Naitanui, Michael Hurley and Tyrone Vickery were entrenched at the top of the draft order by this time last year, the talk is all about onballers: Tom Scully, Jack Trengove and Anthony Morabito, above others.

Scully is a pure midfielder: he can find the ball in packs, feed it out and find targets under pressure. As the most talked-about player leading into the championships, he has found the ball and used it well in a team that has struggled.

Trengove is a bold player and his marking ability makes him a promising forward-line prospect.

Morabito stands at 190 centimetres, weighs 90 kilograms and is quick: he is not your everyday wingman. Both players, as well as Scully, would not look out of place in an AFL side at the weekend.

Among the other well-regarded onballers are Koby Stevens, Ben Cunnington, Dustin Martin and Gary Rohan, all of whom can play in multiple spots.

This year's top group is not quite as big as last year's, or quite as gifted. But the midfielders' strength and flexibility, said Collingwood recruiting manager Derek Hine, gave the current group its point of difference.

"There weren't too many like that last year," he said. "You had Daniel Rich, and a couple others were playing senior footy, but they weren't as ready physically. But this year there's a real group of midfield/utility types who have really got the bodies to come in and play pretty much straight away."

On the flipside, the better taller prospects have been harder to identify. John Butcher is the best of them, despite not having a dominant carnival. He has been double-teamed on occasions and played yesterday with a chipped bone in his thumb.

South Australian Matthew Panos made people notice him, kicking 14 goals in the five-match series and proving the most consistent tall target. Jack stuff has played forward, back and in the ruck, but faded in and out of games. Ben Griffiths had a lousy preparation due to injury, Daniel Talia has looked impressive up forward for Vic Metro and Jake Carlisle (Metro) hasn't played a heap of game time, while Dylan Jones (Metro) looms as a key-position prospect despite spending a lot of the championships in the ruck.

Others will emerge, but it is difficult to see many talls, other than Butcher, and perhaps Gippsland ruckman Nathan Vardy, pushing into the top 10 at this early stage.

"There just aren't many of them," said Adelaide recruiting manager Matt Rendell. "Last year was a great tall draft, but there aren't too many in there this year."

Of the overall depth, Rendell felt that a full round of talent had essentially been removed: had the draft age not been changed, he said, 20 players (12 of whom can be signed by the Gold Coast as 17-year-olds this year) would certainly be in the mix. The fact that Queensland players are off limits and the better NSW players are on AFL club scholarships has also affected the depth: a handful of good Tasmanian players aside, the clubs basically will be drafting from the four division-one sides, as well as any extras they find in the state leagues.

Rendell thinks the talent will dry up by the end of the third round and expects clubs to elevate a record number of rookies this year.

"It will be really interesting to see what happens and what clubs decide to do. You'll be able to tell what they think when they decide whether to keep players on for another year or not. I think there's a bit more depth in next year's draft."

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/draft-short-of-tall-prospects/2009/07/01/1246127579841.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1

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Scully or Trengrove likely to go at No. 1 in AFL draft (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #32 on: July 02, 2009, 04:00:46 AM »
Scully or Trengrove likely to go at No. 1 in AFL draft
Matt Windley | July 02, 2009

NEARLY four months out from the AFL draft, the battle to become the No. 1 pick is a race in two.

While Tom Scully and Jack Trengove did not turn in their best performances on the final day of the under-18 national championships at Etihad Stadium yesterday, both showed glimpses of their sublime talent.

South Australian Trengove had 15 disposals in SA's 12-point win against Vic Metro.

Metro captain Scully had 27 touches and a goal.

Scully, wearing tape across his nose after copping a first-quarter knock, underlined his class in the third quarter by kicking the goal of the day.

He took the ball on the wing, handed off, received the ball back and handballed again before receiving the ball for a final time, weaving out of traffic and slotting a goal on the run from 30m.

According to AIS-AFL Academy high-performance coach Jason McCartney, Scully sits just ahead of Trengove in the pecking order.

"He (Scully) has been sitting at No. 1 probably since last year and I think he'd still be there," McCartney said.

"But Trengove is really challenging.

"Both are midfielders, but different. Scully's a real explosive midfielder, creative by hands, an inside player as well. Trengove's an inside player but probably more powerful, but has that ability forward with the overhead marking. Tom probably doesn't do that as much, but continually wins the footy around the stoppages."

McCartney, who has worked with this year's draft crop during the past two years, also was full of praise for Western Australia's Anthony Morabito.

The 190cm midfielder underlined his class with 17 disposals and two goals in WA's 48-point win against Vic Country.

"Morabito's a real wildcard because he doesn't need to get hold of the footy that much," McCartney said.

"He can have it 18 times and be best on ground because he's got X-factor all over him. He's a fantastic size, he's a wonderful athlete."

WA claimed the national championship, while NSW-ACT won the division two title courtesy of a 37-point win against Tasmania.

The standout for the Rams was captain Dylan McNeil, who won the Harris Medal for the best player in division two.

Victoria's John Butcher, considered almost a certainty for the No. 1 pick at the start of the year, has struggled with injury in recent times.

He kicked 2.1 from five kicks yesterday, and one recruiter said he needed to improve his goalkicking to become a real presence up forward.

SA's Matthew Panos may have surpassed Butcher as the best key-forward prospect in the draft pool.

The exceptional performance of the day came from Bendigo's Dustin Martin, who gathered 28 disposals and a goal in a best-on-ground performance for Vic Country.

WA's Kane Lucas (24 disposals), SA's Alex Carey (21), Vic Country's Gary Rohan (16) and Ben Cunnington (23), Vic Metro's Daniel Talia (24) and Northern Territory's Scott Taylor (27) and Roland Ah Chee (25) were other impressive performers.

In a pointer to draft day, all are midfielders.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25720258-19742,00.html

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Re: Draft Day 2009
« Reply #33 on: July 02, 2009, 10:36:12 PM »
Tom Scully barracks for Richmond. Just our luck we'll miss out on him  :banghead
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Re: Draft Day 2009
« Reply #34 on: July 02, 2009, 11:39:49 PM »
Tom Scully barracks for Richmond. Just our luck we'll miss out on him  :banghead

yep ... but if he puts in a shocker at the draft camp and interviews badly at the draft camp then Melbourne may go cold. Its up to him I reckon, he needs to show Melbourne that he isnt interested in there club and he'll be leaving as soon as his first contract is up.

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Re: Draft Day 2009
« Reply #35 on: July 03, 2009, 11:22:27 AM »
Tom Scully barracks for Richmond. Just our luck we'll miss out on him  :banghead

Aha, the reports I have read said he is practically a complete footballer, but it would seem he does have a flaw.

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Re: Draft Day 2009
« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2009, 08:23:18 PM »
Tom Scully barracks for Richmond. Just our luck we'll miss out on him  :banghead

yep ... but if he puts in a shocker at the draft camp and interviews badly at the draft camp then Melbourne may go cold. Its up to him I reckon, he needs to show Melbourne that he isnt interested in there club and he'll be leaving as soon as his first contract is up.
A bit late for Scully to tank now sadly. That goal he kicked running from half-back receiving and dishing off one-two handballs before slotting it home from 40m was brilliant. Off to the Dees sadly  :(. It would take a major injury to stop him going No.1. Butcher on the other hand had a couple of ordinary games in the Carnival so he could still slip to our first pick if the Dees go for another mid in Trengove or Morabito. Remember Buddy slipped to 5 because his Carnival was ho-hum. 

What would be a top 10 at the moment?

1. Melb - Scully
2. Melb - Trengove
3. Freo - Morabito
4. Rich - Butcher
5. WCE - Lucas
6. NM - Martin
7. Syd - Stevens
8. Port - Rohan
9. Haw - stuff
10. Carl - Cunnington 
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Re: Draft Day 2009
« Reply #37 on: July 04, 2009, 12:52:29 PM »
Matthew Panos is our man!

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Re: Draft Day 2009
« Reply #38 on: July 04, 2009, 02:30:16 PM »
Matthew Panos is our man!

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In the 3rd round he would be, I wouldnt be picking him before 30 odd picks have come beforehand.

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Re: Draft Day 2009
« Reply #39 on: July 04, 2009, 02:33:04 PM »
Tom Scully barracks for Richmond. Just our luck we'll miss out on him  :banghead

yep ... but if he puts in a shocker at the draft camp and interviews badly at the draft camp then Melbourne may go cold. Its up to him I reckon, he needs to show Melbourne that he isnt interested in there club and he'll be leaving as soon as his first contract is up.
A bit late for Scully to tank now sadly. That goal he kicked running from half-back receiving and dishing off one-two handballs before slotting it home from 40m was brilliant. Off to the Dees sadly  :(. It would take a major injury to stop him going No.1. Butcher on the other hand had a couple of ordinary games in the Carnival so he could still slip to our first pick if the Dees go for another mid in Trengove or Morabito. Remember Buddy slipped to 5 because his Carnival was ho-hum. 

What would be a top 10 at the moment?

1. Melb - Scully
2. Melb - Trengove
3. Freo - Morabito
4. Rich - Butcher
5. WCE - Lucas
6. NM - Martin
7. Syd - Stevens
8. Port - Rohan
9. Haw - stuff
10. Carl - Cunnington 

Id rather Martin than Butcher in the hope that Griffiths or Talia are available in the 2nd round. I wonder what pick Sydney would offer us for Foley  ;)

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Re: Draft Day 2009
« Reply #40 on: July 05, 2009, 06:19:29 AM »
Even in this year's draft GC17 are ripping the guts out of it.

Gold Coast strikes rich vein of talent
Emma Quayle | July 5, 2009

IT'S time to start getting scared. Until now, the draft concessions assigned to the Gold Coast team have simply been a set of numbers, if a very nice set. But by the time recruiting manager Scott Clayton has pieced together his 2011 squad, he will have gotten his hands on the equivalent of about 20 first-round draft picks, and possibly a few more.

The Gold Coast can nominate a dozen 17-year-olds (players born between January 1 and April 30, 1992) by the end of this year and, according to the recruiters, six, seven or even eight of them would be pushing for a first-round place if they were available to everyone this year.

Had he been in this year's draft, Josh Toy, a smart, rebounding half-back destined to end up in the middle, would be rivalling Tom Scully for No. 1 draft pick honours; he could have played for his beloved Bombers last Friday night, so ready for senior football does he already look.

Tasmanian midfielder Luke Russell also looks like a first-rounder, and clubs would be investigating heavily the injury problems of the hard-running, ultra-classy Maverick Weller. On ability, he would be a top-five or 10 pick.

Trent McKenzie, Alex Keath, Matt Shaw, Brandon Matera, Hayden Jolly and Tom Nicholls are other potential first-rounders to be attached to the Gold Coast soon. Another three — Jack Hutchins, Piers Flanagan and Blayne Wilson — are also in the mix, and others are certain to emerge in the last part of the year.

With access to 20 Queenslanders and Northern Territory players this season and next, the Coast will sign the sublimely gifted Troy Taylor (another likely first-round pick this year) should he agree, and his good friend Steven May, already an imposing forward, is another chance.

Obviously, there is a lot still to happen before the 2010 draft — in which the Gold Coast has the first three selections, nine of the first 15 picks and a choice at the start of every round — takes place. But three players already seem to have distinguished themselves from the pack: midfielder David Swallow, his West Australian teammate Jack Darling, a smart, tallish forward, and Scott Lycett, an incredibly agile 204-centimetre ruckman from near the SA and WA border.

Full article at:
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/gold-coasts-rich-talent/2009/07/04/1246127735755.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1

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Re: Draft Day 2009
« Reply #41 on: July 06, 2009, 04:57:36 PM »
That is no good.  :P

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Re: Draft Day 2009
« Reply #42 on: July 06, 2009, 05:00:59 PM »
Not at all, would make even the most Anti tanker person think twice about how we should finish up this year

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Re: Draft Day 2009
« Reply #43 on: July 07, 2009, 08:04:59 PM »
Given how many of this year's best kids are bottom age, GC17 are getting a massive free kick. I don't think the existing clubs realised what they were agreeing to when they did. They'd be having second thoughts now but it's too late. Still there's enough quality in the first 20-25 for us to well out of this upcoming draft if we've done our homework, play for the future in the final rounds to get the best picks, and make sure we hang onto them.
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Re: Draft Day 2009
« Reply #44 on: July 07, 2009, 08:31:06 PM »
Tom Scully barracks for Richmond. Just our luck we'll miss out on him  :banghead

Tom would love to come to Richmond, he's good mates with Tyrone and have had a few jokes about getting drafted to Richmond.

He thinks he is a chance to get drafted to Richmond and gets revved up a bit about going number 1 by the boys but just hopes he can get drafted. I think deep down he knows he will get drafted, he keeps a very level head and just focuses on things he can control.

As like any kid he simply just wants to get drafted but if he had a choice I promise everyone he'd take Richmond without blinking.

Just breaks my heart.
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