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Re: Rawlings must get the job next year
« Reply #225 on: August 09, 2009, 10:29:47 PM »
yes and Nathan Brown and Newy lead that space.

Gee i cant stand to watch Brown anymore.

sad what has happened but gee get rid of him.

Newy well if he isn't another Sugar then i am not sitting here today. No right foot and does he lead by example???

Argh Newman is run in the last - I actually thought he was heading towards the tennis centre was fantastic .... NOT :banghead :banghead He had players actually leading for him and he ran towards the AFL members, I swear I thought he was heading towards Rod Laver Arena
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Re: Rawlings must get the job next year
« Reply #226 on: August 09, 2009, 10:39:40 PM »

Longmire coaching today certainly made the North job interesting as well.


Got no idea why Longmire isn't a shoe-in for North. Considering Lyon's impact at Saints and that Longmire is more senior than Lyon was. He's not the best speaker, but plenty of coaches aren't initially. Does he want the Roos job?

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Re: Rawlings must get the job next year
« Reply #227 on: August 09, 2009, 10:50:49 PM »
As has been posted earlier, Geish has the best win/loss of any Tiger coach in recent history! It now appears as though Jade has the proven form and the others are the unknown!

LMAO at your posts Richo12. Like reading a comedy act.

its no surprise you haven't posted one thing today



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Re: Rawlings must get the job next year
« Reply #228 on: August 09, 2009, 10:57:13 PM »

Longmire coaching today certainly made the North job interesting as well.


Got no idea why Longmire isn't a shoe-in for North. Considering Lyon's impact at Saints and that Longmire is more senior than Lyon was. He's not the best speaker, but plenty of coaches aren't initially. Does he want the Roos job?


Would be perfect for the Roos job, but some blokes are happy to be pulling the strings from behind the scenes as he does at Sydney opposed to being in the limelight. Longmire doesn't look like the effervescent type, but then again Sydney don't play that type of footy and North is not that type of club which again leads me to think that he is comfortable at Sydney.

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Re: Rawlings must get the job next year
« Reply #229 on: August 09, 2009, 11:13:18 PM »

Longmire coaching today certainly made the North job interesting as well.


Got no idea why Longmire isn't a shoe-in for North. Considering Lyon's impact at Saints and that Longmire is more senior than Lyon was. He's not the best speaker, but plenty of coaches aren't initially. Does he want the Roos job?


Would be perfect for the Roos job, but some blokes are happy to be pulling the strings from behind the scenes as he does at Sydney opposed to being in the limelight. Longmire doesn't look like the effervescent type, but then again Sydney don't play that type of footy and North is not that type of club which again leads me to think that he is comfortable at Sydney.

Not the case. He's been promised Paul Roos job.

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Re: Rawlings must get the job next year
« Reply #230 on: August 10, 2009, 07:00:41 AM »
Now just so I get everything clear.... yesterday's loss was all the coaches fault, had nothing to do with the players or anything else???

Well here are 3 names:

Mark Williams
Mark Thompson
Rodney Eade

3 very good coaches - 2 are premeirship coaches the other is a premiership player. So going by the criteria set by many here they would tick every box required to be Richmond's coach.

The 3 teams they coach lost on the weekend....

Port were pathetic, Dogs were abysmal and Geelong seemed disinterested
Who's fault is that exactly?

Applying the arguments seen throughout this forum since yesterday the losses are squarely their fault no ifs buts and maybes .... can't apply any other logic to it, can't be an other excuses... it has to be theirs right?

Or do different rules appply to others clubs

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Re: Rawlings must get the job next year
« Reply #231 on: August 10, 2009, 07:07:16 AM »
Now just so I get everything clear.... yesterday's loss was all the coaches fault, had nothing to do with the players or anything else???

Well here are 3 names:

Mark Williams
Mark Thompson
Rodney Eade

3 very good coaches - 2 are premeirship coaches the other is a premiership player. So going by the criteria set by many here they would tick every box required to be Richmond's coach.

The 3 teams they coach lost on the weekend....

Port were pathetic, Dogs were abysmal and Geelong seemed disinterested
Who's fault is that exactly?

Applying the arguments seen throughout this forum since yesterday the losses are squarely their fault no ifs buts and maybes .... can't apply any other logic to it, can't be an other excuses... it has to be theirs right?

Or do different rules appply to others clubs

Just checking

Williams has produced a Premiership for his club as coach
Thomson has produced a Premiership for his club as coach
Eade has the Bulldogs as a constant Finals Performer

The reason why we are calling for Hardwick is because we understand that its the players fault. But the truth is if youve been in the Richmond coaching team over the past 1 to 5 years you have to be prepared to accept some form of responsibility. Whilst he may have been a bit player over the past 2 years, Rawlings has played a part and alot of us want someone new.

A coach who will come in and cut the list right back to the bone- if we have to cut 12 or 14 we should.
A coach who will bring in a new group of assistants
A coach who will bring in new fitness staff
A coach who will teach the players a new direct style of footy
A coach who can IMPOSE his will on the club and change the poo culture that exists.

We have extreme doubts that Rawlings can do these things

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Re: Rawlings must get the job next year
« Reply #232 on: August 10, 2009, 07:14:51 AM »
Jade wouldnt tick too many boxes at the moment

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Re: Rawlings must get the job next year
« Reply #233 on: August 10, 2009, 07:36:57 AM »
you dont go crazy cutting the list, we have the players.
They just need better coaching & fitness advisors + medical staff who know when to have authority over the player & make better judgements instead of making them break & when broken there is no value to anyone player or club.

Ramps your on the mark but l would hunt down Leigh Matthews who has the whole package & has lifed the Cup at 3 clubs
You cannot get a more experienced coach whos makes the hard decisions & had left his previous club a good players list which Voss has to work with & playing finals in his first year as coach, Yes Brisbane has been beaten by some teams but the fact is they are playing finals, the same place we should be.

We have the players but Wallace/Rawlings have not coached them properly cause they are both always on TV  ;D have no idea how to develope a club & have not looked at how other clubs go about it cause all the spys are at Richmond & deliver the game plans which a child could workout :lol  :rollin

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Re: Rawlings must get the job next year
« Reply #234 on: August 10, 2009, 08:27:57 AM »
l like to see what a new coach would do with our current list apart from McMahon unless he pulls his poo together.
1 year would see a huge difference under someone with a football brain how to build a AFL league side into better skills

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Re: Rawlings must get the job next year
« Reply #235 on: August 10, 2009, 08:33:00 AM »
The Job at Richmond is so big, the changes needed so massive, this coaching appointment is a huge appointment.

Its time to clear the decks. The players, the fitness staff, the coaches and assistant coaches. Its time for a massive cleanout. I dont agree that we have players, we have a crap list, if the board want to influence the joint by appointing someone they can influence then they can go jump. We want a tough bastard in the coaches box, someone who will clean the joint out and turn Richmond around. I just heard the rumours on SEN about the board wanting some players to play on .... How about effen waiting for the new coach to come on board and decide who stays and who goes. Its just disgraceful.
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You are too involoved in how many Souvlakis you can eat at the Souvlaki Hut. :lol

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Re: Rawlings must get the job next year
« Reply #236 on: August 10, 2009, 08:34:44 AM »

You are too involoved in how many Souvlakis you can eat at the Souvlaki Hut. :lol

ahhhhhhhhhhhhh haha

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Re: Rawlings must get the job next year
« Reply #237 on: August 10, 2009, 08:36:37 AM »
The Job at Richmond is so big, the changes needed so massive, this coaching appointment is a huge appointment.

Its time to clear the decks. The players, the fitness staff, the coaches and assistant coaches. Its time for a massive cleanout. I dont agree that we have players, we have a crap list, if the board want to influence the joint by appointing someone they can influence then they can go jump. We want a tough bastard in the coaches box, someone who will clean the joint out and turn Richmond around. I just heard the rumours on SEN about the board wanting some players to play on .... How about effen waiting for the new coach to come on board and decide who stays and who goes. Its just disgraceful.
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You obviously havent been reading my posts for the past 3 years :banghead
You are too involoved in how many Souvlakis you can eat at the Souvlaki Hut. :lol

Ive actually never been in a souvlaki hut and I have read your posts, atleast when you were here and not self boycotting yourself Jacko. ;D

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Re: Rawlings must get the job next year
« Reply #238 on: August 10, 2009, 08:49:44 AM »
Williams has produced a Premiership for his club as coach
Thomson has produced a Premiership for his club as coach
Eade has the Bulldogs as a constant Finals Performer

The reason why we are calling for Hardwick is because we understand that its the players fault. But the truth is if youve been in the Richmond coaching team over the past 1 to 5 years you have to be prepared to accept some form of responsibility. Whilst he may have been a bit player over the past 2 years, Rawlings has played a part and alot of us want someone new.

A coach who will come in and cut the list right back to the bone- if we have to cut 12 or 14 we should.
A coach who will bring in a new group of assistants
A coach who will bring in new fitness staff
A coach who will teach the players a new direct style of footy
A coach who can IMPOSE his will on the club and change the poo culture that exists.

We have extreme doubts that Rawlings can do these things

Ramps, you've missed the whole point of my post (and btw I undestand what you posted) but what I have read in regard to yesterday's result is that the result is solely the fault of the coach and no-one elses.

All I was asking is who is to blame for the 3 losses that the Cats, Dogs and Port suffered? Was it all the fault of the coach, the players or a collective? If it is sole the fault of the coach then some of the arguments I am reading become more valid if those losses were not the fault solely of the coach then the arguments lose their impact because the reasoning becomes selective. Shouldn't the rules be the same?

I understand that these 3 coaches have been successful that is the exact reason I used them in my example. Are they solely to blame for ther teams losses this weekend?

And just on culture - why is it OK for we the supporters to bag the RFC culture ad nauseum but a coach (whoever it is) comes out and says it and it is disgraceful for them to mention it?

I actually applaud the honesty rather than having to put up with crap like:

"Well we were flat today" or "we had a very young team with only xx games of experience compared to their 1500" or "it was alet down after the last few weeks" or "we are young they are tired" which are poor excuses used to protect players
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Re: Rawlings must get the job next year
« Reply #239 on: August 10, 2009, 10:08:32 AM »
His idea of fixing things is too get rid of all old players leaving the younger players no-one to look up to or follow apart from Cousins & Cuz cant wipe all their bums