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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #645 on: November 23, 2021, 05:43:53 PM »
Maybe, if jack at 33 and lynch prone to an injury or two ,a key forward and the best key forward at that may be in the thinking

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #646 on: November 23, 2021, 05:57:47 PM »
Got a feeling if Johnson is there will get him.

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #647 on: November 23, 2021, 06:07:01 PM »
After Collingwood have completed their bid on Daicos I suspect we will trade our pick 31 for their 2022 second rounder.

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #648 on: November 23, 2021, 06:24:56 PM »
Hawthorn's recruiter mentioned our second first round pick (#17) along with Essendon (#13) and Sydney's (#18) first rounders in trying to move up the draft order.


"We're pretty open with that 21, 24. Whether we explore trying to get up in scenarios or even pushing one of them back if it suits where we want to go or even into the future. It just depends how the draft pans out," McKenzie told NAB AFL Draft Countdown on Tuesday.

"Depending on the players that were there you'd certainly ask the question (of pick No.13). You're probably not doing your job if you're not willing to ask the question and see what it would take to move up, whether it's 13 or 17 or 18.

"Whether it's futures, we'll always ask the question. It just depends who's on the board and what you're willing to give up. If there's something there, then we'll definitely ask the question and see what it will take."


https://www.afl.com.au/news/688813/-we-ll-always-ask-the-question-hawks-ponder-live-trade-to-move-up

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #649 on: November 23, 2021, 06:29:18 PM »
Got a feeling if Johnson is there will get him.

Im hoping for Johnson at 9. Id pick him infront of Gibcus,  Hobbs and Amiss in that order. Id even go Sinn before Amiss. If we get Johnson and not Gibcus tben hopefully Bazzo can be picked by us with one of our picks in the 20s.

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #650 on: November 23, 2021, 06:36:03 PM »
Dockers keen to take a swing at Amiss, but are keeping an open mind.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/688866/dockers-keen-to-take-a-swing-at-amiss-but-are-keeping-an-open-mind

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The full interview with Matt Clarke:

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1032970/clarke-on-draft-night-countdown?videoId=1032970&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1637643042001


'Yeah, probably one of those four': Tigers reveal players in mix for top pick

Josh Gibcus, Jye Amiss, Josh Ward or Ben Hobbs could become Tigers on draft night

By Michael Whiting
afl.com.au
23 November 2021


RICHMOND national recruiting manager Matt Clarke says there are four players in line to be taken with its first selection at Wednesday night's NAB AFL Draft.

Clarke said the Tigers, who currently own pick No.7 which will likely be pushed out to No.9 following father-son bidding, would keep a simple strategy.

Speaking on AFL.com.au's NAB AFL Draft Countdown, Clarke agreed one of Josh Gibcus, Jye Amiss, Josh Ward or Ben Hobbs would likely become a Tiger.

Richmond's national recruiting manager Matthew Clarke breaks down who the Tigers are looking at with pick seven.

"Yeah, probably one of those four. There's probably another couple that have been talked about in there and you're just not sure what the first few clubs are doing," Clarke said.

"There's been a lot of players linked to Adelaide and Hawthorn and Fremantle before us, but there's some pretty good players that have put up some good performances, particularly some of those interstate boys that have been able to get some of those carnival games in in SA and WA.

"Potentially one of them jumps in and all of a sudden someone else slides out, so we'll have to wait and see."

Clarke said there was a lot of "cat and mouse" this year with so many players and clubs having to conduct interviews remotely.

"We probably just stick true to our rankings. I think at seven, which will push out, it'll probably be best available at that pick," he said.

"It's shown through the history of the draft, they're the elite players in the top 10. They're fairly sure-fire in that group."

Richmond has five selections inside the top 30 and Clarke said it was still open to packaging picks to move up the order.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/688808/yeah-probably-one-of-those-four-richmond-tigers-reveal-players-in-mix-for-top-pick

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #652 on: November 23, 2021, 07:57:27 PM »
Gibcus is the guy I'm keen on with pick 7

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #653 on: November 23, 2021, 11:03:46 PM »
No defender with a first rounder we are getting smashed in the guts
Lots of people name their swords......

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #654 on: November 24, 2021, 05:34:02 AM »
The Age has us taking Gibcus and Johnson.

Phantom AFL draft first round: where the best prospects could land

By Owen Leonard
The Age
November 24, 2021


Here’s how the first round could play out.

1. North Melbourne - Jason Horne-Francis
2. W.Bulldogs - Sam Darcy ...... (matching GWS’ bid)
3. GWS - Finn Callaghan
4. Collingwood - Nick Daicos ...... (matching Gold Coast’s bid)
5. Gold Coast - Mac Andrew
6. Adelaide - Josh Rachele
7. Hawthorn - Josh Ward
8. Fremantle - Jye Amiss

9. Richmond
Josh Gibcus (key defender)
Greater Western Victoria, 196cm/87kg

Gibcus is the best key defender in this year’s draft. He makes his presence felt in the air with his intercept-marking prowess but has also proven his ability to restrict opposition forwards. He is athletic, so would suit playing on the new wave of key forwards like the King twins, Harry McKay and Jamarra Ugle-Hagan. Gibcus is a perfect fit for Richmond, whose key defensive stocks remain thin despite bringing in veteran Robbie Tarrant during the free-agency period. He could construct a long-term partnership with Noah Balta.

10. Fremantle - Ben Hobbs
11. St Kilda - Josh Sinn
12. West Coast - Campbell Chesser
13. Essendon - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
14. Port Adelaide - Neil Erasmus
15. GWS - Sam Butler
16. Brisbane - Darcy Wilmot

17. Richmond
Matthew Johnson (midfielder)
Subiaco, 192cm/81kg

Johnson was Western Australia’s best in the AFL grand final curtain raiser against South Australia and caught particular attention after that contest. He is a tall midfielder but rather than imposing himself at the contest, he hurts opposition with his class and decision-making on the outside. It may seem an injustice to place Johnson this low considering the Hawks could take him as early as pick seven, but a combination of list needs and differing club views in the picks to follow mean it is not unrealistic that Johnson slides to the Tigers’ second pick. Here, he would be too good a talent for Richmond to pass up and offers the young midfield talent the Tigers will likely target.

18. Sydney - Josh Goater
19. Melbourne - Blake Howes
20. Brisbane - Jacob van Rooyen

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/phantom-afl-draft-how-the-first-round-could-play-out-20211123-p59bbj.html

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #655 on: November 24, 2021, 05:38:07 AM »
Cal Twomey’s late mail: Spotlight on TWO clubs, Vic mid intrigue

By Callum Twomey
afl.com.au
24 November 2021


ATTENTION is squarely on Hawthorn and Fremantle's selections at Wednesday night's NAB AFL Draft as a run of picks is set to shape the first round of choices, with Vic Country midfielder Ben Hobbs at the centre of the intrigue.

Hobbs' draft range looks likely to stretch anywhere from pick No.7 through to 14 as clubs navigate their way through a maze of tight calls and 50-50 decisions on prospects.

Hawks' choice at No.7 looms as the start of a set of selections that will have big implications thereafter, with Hawthorn considering midfield trio Josh Ward, Hobbs and Matthew Johnson for the prized selection.

Should the Hawks take Ward, the Dockers look likely to grab key forward Jye Amiss, but Fremantle could also be forced to consider its drafting strategy mindful of who the Tigers are interested in with their pick wedged between their pair of selections.

If the Tigers take Gibcus, the Dockers may edge towards local Neil Erasmus, with Johnson also in their considerations. It could follow with Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera nudging out Josh Goater at the Saints, the Eagles grabbing Hobbs over Johnson, and the Bombers left with Johnson at pick 11.

Under another scenario of the Tigers taking Hobbs and the Dockers following with Erasmus, St Kilda could grab Gibcus and leave Wanganeen-Milera to get to West Coast, with the Eagles also considering Campbell Chesser. Essendon could then swoop on Johnson with their selection, with Port Adelaide also looking at Erasmus, Johnson and Josh Sinn (as well as Hobbs in the chance he got that far).

The Hawks' decision with their pick will have a significant ripple effect, particularly if they side with Johnson, the 192cm midfielder with pace and skills. That could see the Tigers snare Ward, the Saints have a choice between Gibcus and Wanganeen and West Coast possibly with the pick of midfield pair Hobbs and Erasmus.

The block of seven picks between picks 7 and 13 is expected to include Hobbs, Amiss, Ward, Gibcus, Erasmus, Wanganeen-Milera and Johnson (with Chesser at the Eagles the wildcard), with variations of the order of the selections.

Essendon has also been interested in tall wingman Blake Howes, with Chesser and Goater looming as the main contenders to come into that group. None of this trio are among the 14 players attending the draft events spread out around the country.

Zac Taylor looms as a top-20 smokey and has been linked to the Swans, while in the second round Hawthorn has shown late interest in West Australian swingman Rhett Bazzo and the Cats could look at Victorian midfielder Connor MacDonald.

2021 Phantom Draft – Late mail edition

PICK 1 – North Melbourne – Jason Horne-Francis

PICK 2 – Western Bulldogs (matching Greater Western Sydney's bid) – Sam Darcy

PICK 3 – Greater Western Sydney – Finn Callaghan

PICK 4 – Collingwood (matching Gold Coast's bid) – Nick Daicos

PICK 5 – Gold Coast – Mac Andrew

PICK 6 – Adelaide – Josh Rachele

PICK 7 – Hawthorn – Josh Ward

PICK 8 – Fremantle – Jye Amiss

PICK 9 – Richmond – Josh Gibcus

PICK 10 – Fremantle – Neil Erasmus

PICK 11 – St Kilda – Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera

PICK 12 – West Coast – Ben Hobbs

PICK 13 – Essendon – Matthew Johnson

PICK 14 – Port Adelaide – Josh Sinn

PICK 15 – Greater Western Sydney – Sam Butler

PICK 16 – Brisbane – Darcy Wilmot

PICK 17 – Richmond – Tyler Sonsie

PICK 18 – Sydney – Tom Brown

PICK 19 – Melbourne – Blake Howes

PICK 20 – Brisbane – Jacob van Rooyen

PICK 21 – Fremantle – Josh Goater

PICK 22 – North Melbourne – Jesse Motlop

PICK 23 – Hawthorn – Mitch Knevitt

PICK 24 – Geelong – Campbell Chesser

PICK 25 – Geelong (after trade with Western Bulldogs) – Toby Conway

PICK 26 – Hawthorn – Rhett Bazzo

PICK 27 – Greater Western Sydney (after matching Carlton's bid) – Josh Fahey

PICK 28 – Carlton – Connor MacDonald

PICK 29 – St Kilda (after matching Richmond's bid) – Mitchito Owens

PICK 30 – Richmond – Jake Soligo

https://www.afl.com.au/news/688887/cal-twomeys-late-mail-spotlight-on-two-clubs-vic-mid-intrigue

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #656 on: November 24, 2021, 05:54:25 AM »
RICHMOND

Picks: 7, 15, 26, 27, 28, 79

Ideal draft scenario: The Tigers say they’re planning to select the “best player available”, so the obvious ideal scenario for their picks, starting with seven, is that they’re able to do just that. Josh Gibcus would fit in nicely alongside Noah Balta and Robbie Tarrant in defence, while one of Ben Hobbs, Josh Ward or Matt Johnson loom as great midfield options that can come in and develop alongside the already existing young talent like Riley Collier-Dawkins.

Doomsday draft scenario: It’s more of a long-term factor, but the repercussions of getting this draft wrong could be significant given how substantive the Tigers’ draft hand is. There is a fair amount of regeneration occurring within the Tigers’ list and the success of this year’s draft selections could spearhead the side’s future runs at flag success. If things don’t pan out well, however, the slide we saw this year is only going to continue as more and more premiership veterans begin to hang up the boots.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-2021-every-clubs-picks-order-best-and-worst-case-scenarios-prospects-rankings/news-story/1332c5104676e32c1736bcc4658cca0d

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #657 on: November 24, 2021, 09:18:55 AM »
Isn't that the doomsday scenario for all clubs. 

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #658 on: November 24, 2021, 09:37:21 AM »
Isn't that the doomsday scenario for all clubs.

Or groundhog day for others

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #659 on: November 24, 2021, 11:58:38 AM »
I'm hearing that were open to offers for pick 15.  I am not sure what the obsession is with continually trading into the following years draft with no guarantee a better player will be available. We did that last year with pick 21.   We should be using 15 & 28 to trade up into this years draft not trading back or out of it.