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Re: Noah Cumberland [merged]
« Reply #420 on: June 13, 2023, 08:32:31 AM »
I just want to be absolutely clear here. I actually want him to succeed.

The club wants him to succeed as he has the x-factor we need. But unlike last season he clearly is not ticking the necessary boxes to get other players out of the senior squad and clearly the boxes required is not goal kicking.

If he does those things asked of him the spot is his for as long as he wants it.

If I was giving him advice in person, “Just do those things the coaching staff are asking first and foremost and let your flair be the icing on the cake and the spot is yours”
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Re: Noah Cumberland [merged]
« Reply #421 on: June 13, 2023, 12:32:41 PM »
Toxic thread full of wankers at the moment.

Haven't seen a kid cop this kind of bagging since Tambling.

You cannot blame a coach for having favourites when you then do the same thing.
He was amazing last year - he started the year on fire and slowly dwindled in output.

Facts are, he’s not measuring up at the moment.
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Noah Cumberland [merged]
« Reply #422 on: June 13, 2023, 02:01:43 PM »
Again, he would be playing in the seniors if he was the best medium forward. At this stage he is a VFL plodder :shh

Did he take a dump in Jack Graham’s (your) locker?

You are the most positive person on this thread when it comes to plenty of players. This bloke cops the entirety of your negativity.


Because of a few reasons:
He has talent but is a selfish player
He doesn't play to the team structure
He goes down in a heap after most contests, paper cut man he should be called
He is not as good as some believe, well not yet anyway
His defensive actions are on his terms
He is openly salty to teammate on field which is not Richmond Man behavior
His general kicking is below average

If he improves, he will become a valuable player. If not, he will be on the scrap heap. 

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Re: Noah Cumberland [merged]
« Reply #423 on: June 13, 2023, 09:51:55 PM »
Will ask for a trade for sure i reckon. Who can blame him.

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Re: Noah Cumberland [merged]
« Reply #424 on: June 14, 2023, 06:51:23 AM »
6 goals in 7 senior games with 5 of them coming in 2 quarters. Averaging 4 effective disposals. Using your logic Claw on other small forwards, he should be delisted.
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Noah Cumberland [merged]
« Reply #425 on: June 14, 2023, 10:07:30 AM »
Sounds the coaches need to give him a real public dressing down , change his game style completely and humiliate him at every chance until he doesn’t know what he should be doing,that should do trick, pity they can’t physically perform public flogging anymore, guess we will have to be satisfied with literal public floggings of scapegoats on media platforms

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Re: Noah Cumberland [merged]
« Reply #426 on: June 14, 2023, 10:23:07 AM »
Sounds the coaches need to give him a real public dressing down , change his game style completely and humiliate him at every chance until he doesn’t know what he should be doing,that should do trick, pity they can’t physically perform public flogging anymore, guess we will have to be satisfied with literal public floggings of scapegoats on media platforms
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Re: Noah Cumberland [merged]
« Reply #427 on: June 14, 2023, 10:35:24 AM »
they wont ever do it to MRJ who i reckon has delivered nothing in the same amount of time.  :shh
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Re: Noah Cumberland [merged]
« Reply #428 on: June 14, 2023, 11:21:04 AM »
:shh :shh
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Re: Noah Cumberland [merged]
« Reply #429 on: June 14, 2023, 11:35:23 AM »
they wont ever do it to MRJ who i reckon has delivered nothing in the same amount of time.  :shh

Not sure it is the same amount of time, seeing the were drafted in different years

But hey, whatever

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Re: Noah Cumberland [merged]
« Reply #430 on: June 14, 2023, 12:17:07 PM »
MRJ 22 games    No. 51, 2020 AFL draft

NC 16 games. No. 43, 2019 AFL National Draft: Richmond

one has played 6 more games and has done SFA in my opinion apart from being lazy at this stage of his career, but we better not criticize :shh

Nice try though.



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Re: Noah Cumberland [merged]
« Reply #431 on: June 14, 2023, 01:05:25 PM »
who says we can’t be critical of MRJ?

He has been dropped for good reason. Not doing enough offensively.

The Cumberland white knights are the ones who seem to be against criticism.

Both players can and should be criticised IMO.
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Re: Noah Cumberland [merged]
« Reply #432 on: June 14, 2023, 01:25:27 PM »
MRJ 22 games    No. 51, 2020 AFL draft

NC 16 games. No. 43, 2019 AFL National Draft: Richmond

one has played 6 more games and has done SFA in my opinion apart from being lazy at this stage of his career, but we better not criticize :shh

Nice try though.

You seem a bit sensitive with regard to Noah. But a nice clip from the cheap seats at someone who dares to pull you up on your

You can criticise whoever you like. Seriously I don't care but if you going to go down the road of comparisons then get your facts rights to back up your argument.

You and others conveniently forget that he was actually de-listed and re-drafted. Would think that there is a bit of message there don't you?

there is absolutely no doubt the kid has talent; a lot of it but clearly there are parts of his game he needs to work on just like MJ does, just like most of them do.

My personal view is he is playing with very little confidence as he trying to please everyone rather than concentrating on the controllables. Do the basics right, the hard work and the rest will take care of itself

who says he want be critical of MRJ?

He has been dropped for good reason. Not doing enough offensively.

The Cumberland white knights are the ones who seem to be against criticism.

Both players can and should be criticised IMO.

Very good post Willy  :thumbsup

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Re: Noah Cumberland [merged]
« Reply #433 on: June 14, 2023, 03:09:23 PM »
There is plenty of criticism of MRJ on his thread. He’s been fumbling and turning over the ball with most of his possessions and posters have been commenting as such as well as been dropped from the side.

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Re: Noah Cumberland [merged]
« Reply #434 on: June 14, 2023, 03:10:50 PM »
Sounds the coaches need to give him a real public dressing down , change his game style completely and humiliate him at every chance until he doesn’t know what he should be doing,that should do trick, pity they can’t physically perform public flogging anymore, guess we will have to be satisfied with literal public floggings of scapegoats on media platforms

Well here’s the way over the top defence that I was talking about lol

Like I said, not sure what’s worse in this thread, the overly critical or the defend at all costs brigade.