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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #30 on: April 20, 2024, 05:36:01 PM »
April 2024 Draft Power Rankings: Mids, father-sons dominate the list

Jasper Chellappah
ESPN
Apr 17, 2024


A midfield powerhouse opens 2024 as ESPN's leading pick one contender, while a familiar father-son name has begun his top-age campaign in scintillating form.

The top of this draft pool reflects the evolving requirements of the modern day midfielder. Gone are days of the accumulating on-baller whose first instinct is backwards and sideways. Instead, junior coaches are imploring their engine room brigade to take the game on with speed and dare.

The midfield game-breaker has always been in vogue, but it is a mould more sought-after than ever before. The top prospects in 2024 share a common trait in taking space afforded with their legs, and taking the game right up to their opposition. It results in high impact performances and exciting, free-flowing football.

The AFL Academy succumbed to the bigger bodies of Coburg in their first hitout, but it was a high-quality, competitive contest at Ikon Park on Saturday. This draft doesn't possess the singular name in bright lights like a Harley Reid or Nick Daicos, and it will make for a fascinating race to the No. 1 pick as a myriad of midfielders stake their claim.

This is ESPN's opening edition of its monthly AFL Draft Power Rankings for 2024.

1. Josh Smillie
Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
MID, 194cm
Talent League: 3 games, 24.7 disposals, 37 marks, 1 goal

Smillie is the prototype midfielder at 194cm with long arms and strong hips. Add to that his elite athletic background and rapid rise through the junior ranks in the past 18 months, and he appears the prospect with the highest upside at the next level. Smillie isn't just an athlete, though. He's a penetrating kick and possesses the poise and strength to pinpoint teammates under duress. He collected 20 disposals through the midfield against Coburg with his ball use a highlight. Smillie has shone as an interceptor off halfback and bulldozed defenders in the forward 50, but a big season as an inside midfielder could see his name called out with the number one selection.

2. Finn O'Sullivan
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Country
MID, 182cm
Talent League: 1 game, 15 disposals, 2 marks, 4 tackles

Heralding from Koroit, O'Sullivan hasn't featured since Round 1 due to a fractured thumb, but he has years of dominant footy to hold him in good stead. The tough midfielder is brilliant in the air and can create mismatches pushing forward with his aerial dominance. He's a booming kick, runs out games strongly and blends his inside and outside craft superbly.

3. Levi Ashcroft
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
MID, 179cm
Talent League: 3 games, 27.3 disposals, 4.7 marks, 1.7 goals

The younger brother of Will, Levi Ashcroft is already putting together a top-age campaign to challenge for the No. 1 pick. The equally-prolific midfielder has starred for the undefeated Dragons, and again enjoyed 33 disposals for the Academy. Ashcroft links the chains with creativity and is rapidly evolving his contested craft to balance a penchant to kick goals from half forward as well.

4. Luke Trainor
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
DEF, 194cm
Talent League: 2 games, 20.5 disposals, 5.5 marks, 3 tackles

Named best on ground for the AFL Academy, Trainor put all of his elite traits together to showcase why he is the top-rated key defender in the pool. The bouncy interceptor flies bravely for his marks and offers beautiful timing in his kicking action, often being entrusted to take his side's kick-ins and setting up transition offence with aplomb. It's this attacking weapon which will have clubs considering Trainor in the top five at this early juncture.

5. Jagga Smith
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
MID, 181cm
Talent League: 3 games, 29 disposals, 4.7 marks, 3 tackles

Ever-elusive and a maestro with ball in hand, Jagga Smith will be a favourite wherever he ends up. The livewire midfielder currently has a light frame and plays an outside game, but his ability to accumulate and create chances forward of centre is best in class. Smith was clean and classy with his 22 disposals on the weekend.

6. Sid Draper
South Adelaide/South Australia
MID, 182cm
2023 SANFL U18s: 14 games, 21.6 disposals, 4.2 clearances, 0.6 goals

An all-round dynamic on-baller with an edge to the way he plays, Draper has had a delayed start to his top-age campaign with a stress fracture discovered in his shin. SA's MVP at the state championships could do no wrong last year and will be aiming to solidify his draft credentials when he returns to action in a month's time.

7. Christian Moraes
Eastern Ranges
MID/FWD, 183cm
Talent League: 3 games, 23.7 disposals, 6.7 marks, 3 goals

Moraes is a wonderfully balanced on-baller with elite skills off both sides of his body and the ability to hit the scoreboard. He's also tougher than his light frame suggests and does the gritty stuff inside to force the ball forward. Boasting an elite basketball background and producing eye-catching highlights with ball in hand, the Ranges star has solidified his top-10 credentials to start the year.

8. Leonardo Lombard
SUNS Academy/Allies
MID/FWD, 178cm
VFL: 1 game, 28 disposals, 8 marks

The Suns Academy midfielder won a VFL premiership as a 16-year-old last year, and in the off-season he's gotten to work, building his body to become a physical presence in his top-age season. Lombard has all the tricks and power to become a game-breaking midfielder; he thrived in transition against Coburg where he can take the game on and hit the scoreboard.

9. Sam Lalor
GWV Rebels/Vic Country
MID, 180cm
2023 Talent League: 8 games, 20.3 disposals, 7.5 tackles, 0.8 goals

The inside beast of the top of this draft is Lalor, a hard-nosed force that rips the ball out of stoppage. He's also the best defensive midfielder in the draft, tackling hard and mirroring Josh Dunkley's style of play. Also an elite cricketer, Lalor has been held out of action so far this season with a groin complaint.

10. Malakai Champion
Subiaco/Western Australia
FWD, 172cm
WAFL Colts: 1 game, 10 disposals, 3 marks, 1 goal

Champion will give himself every chance to take mark and goal of the year at the next level. The remarkable small forward is the full package of exciting forward play, often making something out of nothing with incredible dexterity and evasiveness. He's also played a linking half-forward position and could push up the ground at the next level like a Liam Henry. Concussion sidelined Champion for the Academy hitout.

11. Taj Hotton
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
FWD/MID, 182cm
Talent League: 3 games, 28.7 disposals, 7.3 marks, 1.7 goals

The biggest early-season bolter has been Hotton, an athletic forward that has pushed up on-ball for the Dragons and reaped the rewards of his improved endurance. His ability to find pockets of space and move the ball into the corridor has been invaluable for his sides, and he ended the day with 2.2 from his shots against Coburg after a late AFL Academy call-up. Hotton plays a difficult half-forward role with ease.

12. Tyler Welsh
Adelaide SANFL/South Australia
FWD, 191cm
SANFL League: 7 disposals, 2 marks, 3 tackles

A traditional lead-up forward with ties to the Crows, Welsh is the best key forward in the draft at this point. He's a reliable set shot for the goal, making the most of a plethora of opportunities for club and state.

13. Tom Gross
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
MID/FWD, 181cm
Talent League: 2 games, 25.5 disposals, 6 tackles, 1 goal

Gross has explosive traits and throws himself recklessly into the contest without fear of physical contact. He can also leap above packs and hit the ground running, which lends himself to a half forward role despite his midfield exploits to start the season at the Chargers.

14. Ben Camporeale
Glenelg/South Australia
MID/DEF, 186cm
SANFL U18s: 3 games, 28.3 disposals, 4.3 marks, 3.7 tackles

The first of the Camporeale twins to feature, Ben is the inside presence who uses the ball with precision and can run all day. He got ample opportunity to impress both on-ball and off halfback for the Academy, and in both positions his ball use and spread stood out, finishing with 24 disposals.

15. Harry O'Farrell
Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
DEF, 196cm
Talent League: 2 games, 11.5 disposals, 2.5 marks, 0.5 tackles

A resolute key defender, O'Farrell isn't often beaten one-on-one and has good directional tact with his spoils. He will need time to build his body, but his length and closing speed gives him a chance to beat his forward regularly in his top-age season. Has also shown the ability to play forward for St Kevins in the APS.

16. Bo Allan
Peel Thunder/Western Australia
DEF/FWD, 191cm
WAFL League: 2 games, 12 disposals, 4 marks, 2.5 tackles

Allan missed the Academy match through a minor foot injury but is expected to return within the fortnight. The utility has graduated to League level and spent the majority of his time as a rebounding defender where he loves to take the game on and is ultra-aggressive in his ball movement. He's spent stints forward but may end up a midfielder with his kicking penetration and physicality.

17 Jack Whitlock
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
FWD, 200cm
Talent League: 15 disposals, 6 marks, 2.3 goals

Whitlock earned a call-up to the AFL Academy through strong form and spent his time between deep forward and stints in the ruck. He's a physical presence in the air but will need time to round out his game when the ball isn't delivered for him to run and jump at. Jack's twin Matt is also right in draft contention.

18. Cody Anderson
Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
MID, 181cm
Talent League: 3 games, 21 disposals, 4 marks, 7 tackles

Anderson is a maniacal inside midfield presence, hunting the ball and opposition players alike. His physicality is second to none and it's that intense on-ball pressure that makes him a brilliant teammate to play alongside. He needs to become a better ball user and reduce his free kicks against, but there's scope for him to become an ideal defensive midfielder for clubs to target.

19. Lucas Camporeale
Glenelg, South Australia
MID, 185cm
SANFL U18s: 3 games, 23.7 disposals, 4.3 marks, 3.3 tackles

A natural wingman with elite work rate and running patterns, Lucas links play and keeps possession comfortably under pressure. He's worked many opponents into the ground over the past 12 months and continues to mount his case as a first-round talent for Carlton under the father-season rule.

20. Jobe Shanahan
Bendigo Pioneers/Allies
FWD, 194cm
Talent League: 3 games, 8.7 disposals, 3.3 marks, 2 goals

Hailing from Moama across the NSW border, Shanahan is an interesting in-between height, but his goal nous can be unquestioned. He regularly bobs up in the right spots and typically makes the most of his chances, and can also sit on defender's heads if given a run at the ball. There's some Kyle Langford in Shanahan's style of play.

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/39916961/afl-draft-2024-april-power-rankings-josh-smillie-sid-draper-camporeale-twins-levi-ashcroft

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
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May 2024 Draft Power Rankings: Key position twins make their charge

Jasper Chellappah
ESPN
May 15, 2024


The McKays, the Kings, and now the Whitlocks. Key position twins Jack and Matt Whitlock are the next towering brothers that clubs will be clamouring for in the AFL Draft.

The state championships are just more than a week away, coinciding with the AFL Draft's top prospects elevating themselves with standout performances for the AFL Academy against VFL sides Coburg and Footscray.

Top-five fancies Finn O'Sullivan and Sid Draper have battled injury at this early juncture, but remain firmly atop the board, and the welcome returns of Sam Lalor and Bo Allan have solidified their credentials.

This is ESPN's top-20 AFL Draft Power Rankings for May as draft prospects approach the mid-year state championships, starting with South Australia hosting the Allies on May 26.


1. Josh Smillie (April ranking: 1)
Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
MID, 194cm
Talent League: 5 games, 28.2 disposals, 4.0 marks, 1.6 goals


Smillie is rocketing into football prominence, with each performance adding to his top pick credentials. His hulking size, explosive power and clean hands make him a midfield prospect with a huge ceiling, though he's also shown positional versatility at halfback. Though Smillie is six-foot-four, he hasn't proved a contested marking aptitude, but his rapidly evolving game has shown off goalkicking exploits and penetrating ball use forward of centre.

2. Finn O'Sullivan (2)
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Country
MID, 182cm
Talent League: 1 game, 15 disposals, 2 marks, 4 tackles


O'Sullivan's campaign has been frustrating to date, returning from a broken thumb only to fracture another finger playing for the AFL Academy. It leaves him with just two injury-hampered outings to date outside of his school commitments with Xavier. Now having to get surgery on his recent finger injury, O'Sullivan will miss 6 weeks which includes the start of the Under 18 Champs. At his best, Finn's power, aerial prowess and consistently damaging game style has him in pick one contention. Though he hasn't been able to show that to date, a stellar bottom-age campaign holds him in good stead.

3. Levi Ashcroft (3)
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
MID, 179cm
Talent League: 3 games, 27.3 disposals, 4.7 marks, 1.3 goals


Ashcroft is the star of a powerhouse Dragons outfit, building on his outside linking game this year by becoming a much-improved contested on-baller. He gets forward to hit the scoreboard, finds time and space where few can and shows elite work rate to rack the ball up all day. The brother of Will, Ashcroft is linked to the Lions through their academy and father-son ties.

4. Jagga Smith (5)
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
MID, 181cm
Talent League: 5 games, 30.6 disposals, 3.6 marks, 2.8 tackles


The mercurial Chargers midfielder has been a shining light in another dour year for the club, flourishing with added responsibility as its captain. Smith takes the ball from the inside to outside better than anyone in the draft and has the neat skills to release players into space by hand and foot. He sits second in the CTL for disposals per game.

5. Luke Trainor (4)
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
DEF, 194cm
Talent League: 2 games, 20.5 disposals, 5.5 marks, 3.3 tackles


The standout key position player of the pool has been Trainor, possibly the best performer from the AFL Academies hitouts. Trainor is a capable one-on-one defender, great interceptor and brilliant ball user out of the backline. He's been compared to Essendon's Jordan Ridley, but the right footer is more willing to take the game on and get up the ground, averaging four inside 50s per outing.

6. Sid Draper (6)
South Adelaide/South Australia
MID, 182cm
2023 SANFL U18s: 14 games, 21.6 disposals, 4.2 clearances, 0.6 goals


Draper made his long-awaited return from a shin fracture in SA's state trials on the weekend, playing a half of football through the midfield. His speed and endurance ties in beautifully with his hard edge at the coalface belying his size. Draper was a genuine Larke Medallist chance last season as a bottom-ager and recruiters haven't forgotten those sparkling carnival performances.

7. Christian Moraes (7)
Eastern Ranges, Vic Metro
MID/FWD, 183cm
Talent League: 4 games, 26.0 disposals, 6.3 marks, 2.3 goals


An elite aerobic athlete boasting snappy movement with ball in hand, Moraes excites around the forward line and as an outside midfielder. He's kicking bags of goals for a powerful Ranges outfit and forms a potent combination with Smillie out of centre bounces, though hasn't proved his inside grunt work can match his dazzling play in transition.

8. Sam Lalor (9)
GWV Rebels/Vic Country
MID, 187cm
2023 Talent League: 8 games, 20.3 disposals, 7.5 tackles, 0.8 goals


Lalor will ply his trade for Geelong Grammar leading into the national carnival, where he kicked seven goals on return a few weeks back. The hulking midfielder offers elite defensive presence in stoppages to go with aerial prowess up forward. His defensive application and tenacity mirrors that of Brisbane's Josh Dunkley.

9. Leonardo Lombard (8 )
SUNS Academy/Allies
MID/FWD, 178cm
Talent League: 2 games, 25.0 disposals, 2.5 marks, 0.5 goals


The mature Lombard has been on the radar for years through the Gold Coast Academy, and won a VFL premiership last season as a 16-year-old. He plays full-chested, able to run through the midfield but also impact up forward where he's masterful in transition breaking the game apart with dare.

10. Taj Hotton (11)
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
FWD/MID, 182cm
Talent League: 3 games, 28.7 disposals, 7.3 marks, 1.7 goals


The big riser from last year is Hotton, a forward-turned-midfielder whose aerobic base has come on in leaps and bounds. He is composed and sharp with the footy and bites off corridor kicks with impressive accuracy. Hotton will hold onto the ball with bold evasiveness until he finds the right option.

11. Jobe Shanahan (20)
Bendigo Pioneers/Allies
FWD, 194cm
Talent League: 5 games, 12.2 disposals, 4.6 marks, 2.0 goals


Shanahan continues to impress aerially, clunking pack marks and making his presence felt leading out of the goal square. He's also spent time up the ground where his work rate gets him up and down the wings to provide an outlet out of defence. Able to leap on heads and typically an accurate set shot, Shanahan could rocket into the top-10 with a strong carnival.

12. Jack Whitlock (17)
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
FWD, 200cm
Talent League: 3 games, 15.0 disposals, 6.0 tackles, 2.3 goals


Whitlock has missed games through injury, but put himself in the first round picture early with big performances up forward for the Bushrangers, earning himself an AFL Academy call-up. At his best he's taking the ball at his highest point and proving a match-up nightmare for defenders with his long limbs, outstanding leap and strong hands.

13. Harry O'Farrell (15)
Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
DEF, 196cm
Talent League: 2 games, 11.5 disposals, 2.5 marks, 0.5 tackles


A masterful shutdown defender, O'Farrell can play at both ends of the ground but looks most comfortable playing back shoulder and coming over the top of packs in contested marking situations. He has the length and sneaky-good closing speed to play on a variety of talls.

14. Joe Berry (unranked)
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
FWD, 180cm
Talent League: 5 games, 13.6 disposals, 4.0 tackles, 3.2 goals


The in-form small forward across the country is Berry, a full-tilt pressuriser who thrives in the chaos of forward 50 contests. He's a chasedown artist, has a beautiful left foot set shot and can work up the ground to boot. Berry's defensive mentality and talent with the football will make him an in-demand small forward.

15. Ben Camporeale (14)
Glenelg/South Australia
MID/DEF, 186cm
SANFL U18s: 4 games, 30.0 disposals, 4.5 marks, 3.5 tackles


A strong accumulator linked to Carlton through the father-son rule, Camporeale shone in the SA trials as a pure midfielder where his quick hands and strong hips come to the fore. He accumulates and has deft touch in his disposal, plus can play across half back as a distributor. His brother Lucas has first-round potential off a wing for Glenelg.

16. Bo Allan (16)
Peel Thunder/Western Australia
DEF/MID, 191cm
WAFL Colts: 2 games, 21.0 disposals, 5.5 marks, 0.5 goals


Allan is a strong presence either down back or through the middle of the park. He takes on tackles with brute force and can fly at top speed, though doesn't have the burst out of contest like some others. Allan may settle as a defender at the next level where his physicality and courage can be displayed.

17. Tom Gross (13)
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
MID/FWD, 181cm
Talent League: 2 games, 25.5 disposals, 6.0 tackles, 1.0 goals


Gross possesses an abundance of power in the contest and plays above his height in the forward line. It's an exciting package, but he hasn't quite proved his ability as a pure on-baller. There are elements of Brisbane's Zac Bailey in his forward-half game.

18. Matt Whitlock (unranked)
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
DEF/FWD, 199cm
Talent League: 5 games, 14.8 disposals, 6.0 marks, 1.2 goals


The second of the first-round twins is Matt Whitlock, who has moved up draft boards after a rare forward outing where he booted five goals in his brother's absence. Matt is typically a rangy defender with a good athletic foundation and safe hands in the air. But up forward he competed well and was rewarded for his reading of the play, and it proved his positional versatility for scouts.

19. Isaac Kako (unranked)
Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
FWD, 175cm
Talent League: 5 games, 16.6 disposals, 3.8 marks, 2.0 goals


Kako is must-watch, a dynamo with the ball and wrecking ball without. He hits contests at full tilt and loves to pressure and tackle, plus can play as a lead-up forward on the wings to provide outlets. Kako doesn't have the best goal nous of the small forwards in this draft, but his frenetic energy and ability to stay involved in games has been impressive this year. An Essendon NGA prospect, but a bid can't be matched until pick 40 in the draft.

20. Cody Anderson (18)
Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
MID, 181cm
Talent League: 6 games, 23.5 disposals, 6.8 tackles, 0.8 goals


Anderson is a maniacal inside midfield presence, hunting the ball and opposition players alike. He's part of a dynamic on-ball unit for the Ranges and has hit the scoreboard to add to his inside game. While he flourishes in the contest, Anderson still needs to prove his outside game and foot skills can translate to the next level.

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/40147426/afl-draft-2024-power-rankings-josh-smillie-jack-matt-whitlock

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« Reply #34 on: Yesterday at 10:43:22 AM »
So what I want to know is who are the next generation superstars the Swans are hiding at there "academy"? 
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So what I want to know is who are the next generation superstars the Swans are hiding at there "academy"? 


Dunno but I'd be offering them 22, 40, 41, 47, 58, 66 and 68 for 18 + 19.

Go draft with 2, 18, 19, 29.

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« Reply #36 on: Yesterday at 02:39:28 PM »
So what I want to know is who are the next generation superstars the Swans are hiding at there "academy"? 


Dunno but I'd be offering them 22, 40, 41, 47, 58, 66 and 68 for 18 + 19.

Go draft with 2, 18, 19, 29.

Perfect Andy!

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« Reply #37 on: Yesterday at 03:07:23 PM »
Brisbane and Gold Coast will also need picks. We could end up with 4-5 top 20 if baker leaves and potentially 2 top 10

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« Reply #38 on: Yesterday at 03:50:37 PM »
So what I want to know is who are the next generation superstars the Swans are hiding at there "academy"? 


Dunno but I'd be offering them 22, 40, 41, 47, 58, 66 and 68 for 18 + 19.

Go draft with 2, 18, 19, 29.

Perfect Andy!

I’d be targeting freo personally. Surely they’re in win now mode, they’ll be looking to move their first rounders surely.

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« Reply #39 on: Yesterday at 04:33:03 PM »
So what I want to know is who are the next generation superstars the Swans are hiding at there "academy"? 


Dunno but I'd be offering them 22, 40, 41, 47, 58, 66 and 68 for 18 + 19.

Go draft with 2, 18, 19, 29.

Would be extremely disappointed if that was the draft hand we ended up with...should be able to do way better than that.... :shh
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« Reply #40 on: Yesterday at 07:28:40 PM »
So what I want to know is who are the next generation superstars the Swans are hiding at there "academy"? 


Dunno but I'd be offering them 22, 40, 41, 47, 58, 66 and 68 for 18 + 19.

Go draft with 2, 18, 19, 29.

Would be extremely disappointed if that was the draft hand we ended up with...should be able to do way better than that.... :shh

Well we should also be trading out players but to give Swans a points surplus that's about +450 for them.

What would you do?

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« Reply #41 on: Yesterday at 11:22:49 PM »
Honestly if we just throw the Norf game we'll probably get P1

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« Reply #42 on: Today at 02:54:12 PM »
Well who do we like ? Gotta get excited about something. Smilie looks good

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« Reply #43 on: Today at 03:38:02 PM »
So what I want to know is who are the next generation superstars the Swans are hiding at there "academy"? 


Dunno but I'd be offering them 22, 40, 41, 47, 58, 66 and 68 for 18 + 19.

Go draft with 2, 18, 19, 29.

Would be extremely disappointed if that was the draft hand we ended up with...should be able to do way better than that.... :shh

Well we should also be trading out players but to give Swans a points surplus that's about +450 for them.

What would you do?

Well we should be bidding on the academy picks of GC before we do any of that - also Scum & Bears will have high f/s picks....all teams who'll likely finish lower than Sydney......then there's whatever we'll get for Baker,  possible compo pick fir Graham...possibly Rioli ...I'd be trading Short.....would even consider a decent offer for Lynch if it came.... :shh
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