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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1680 on: May 08, 2021, 08:58:41 AM »
You guys all realise that the way we play the game means that a negative differential in the free kick count is expected

Getting bored with all the umpire this, umpire that sooking

We play a tough high pressure game that will more often that not result in us copping it .. that game style resulted in 3 premierships and 3 years of copping it hard from the umpires .. live with it

We aren’t victims

Disagree completely. It's not the amount given away it's the missed ones that aren't paid to us. That has nothing to do with game style.

Baker getting pinged for holding the ball when the ball landed in his lap and got stacks on and another 4 similar go cats way.

Cats chipped ball 10m all night and got paid marks. Then as soon as we do it RCD called to play on

Not once has the umpiring cost us 4 points but the lack of consistency is a disgrace.
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1681 on: May 08, 2021, 09:07:12 AM »
We can cop free kicks from our pressure that’s not the issue. It’s definitely the misses that we don’t get. They can drop throw or hold the ball and it’s called play on or ball up.

It’s a bloody disgrace and I don’t usually complain about the umps.

That said I’ve can’t remember dropping so many easy marks in a game probably since 2016.
Lynch x2 easiest marks dropped.
Mansell, Vlastuin & Broad also it was embarrassing to watch.
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1682 on: May 08, 2021, 01:47:01 PM »
You guys all realise that the way we play the game means that a negative differential in the free kick count is expected

Getting bored with all the umpire this, umpire that sooking

We play a tough high pressure game that will more often that not result in us copping it .. that game style resulted in 3 premierships and 3 years of copping it hard from the umpires .. live with it

We aren’t victims
Couldn't disagree with this anymore.  We are smashed with decisions and non decisions every week.  I get statistical anomolies occur but not for this length of time.

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1683 on: May 08, 2021, 01:54:04 PM »
We are being deliberately cheated against. Thats the reality.

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1684 on: May 08, 2021, 02:22:23 PM »
SHocking basically admitted we were the main reason they introduced the stand rule...so I'd suggest if the AFL actually changed a rule specifically to stop us is it really that far-fetched to suppose they've instructed the umpires to do likewise? :shh
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1685 on: May 08, 2021, 02:39:44 PM »
Have to agree take loss out of it we a not getting the same frees as the opposition simple as that.

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1686 on: May 08, 2021, 06:51:12 PM »
The standard of umpiring has never been better :rollin

North's Cameron Zurhaar did a Castagna and was pinged for deliberate out of bounds :huh3.

https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1390934601191673864

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1687 on: May 08, 2021, 06:59:09 PM »
So de goey gets 2 goals from 50's. One of which was a replica of what wasn't paid against the cats player for not going back on the mark.

What a load of poo
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1688 on: May 08, 2021, 07:13:46 PM »
Tom Stewart come back a metre.

Tom Stewart back a metre.

Tom Stewart back a metre.

Tom Stewart back a metre.

Tom Stewart back a metre.

Play on!

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1689 on: May 08, 2021, 09:12:31 PM »
You forgot blowing time off after the 4th warning to physically set the mark for him. Bloody joke.

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1690 on: May 09, 2021, 06:11:33 AM »
The standard of umpiring has never been better :rollin

North's Cameron Zurhaar did a Castagna and was pinged for deliberate out of bounds :huh3.

https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1390934601191673864
So de goey gets 2 goals from 50's. One of which was a replica of what wasn't paid against the cats player for not going back on the mark.

What a load of poo

North Melbourne coach David Noble will contact the umpiring department after a series of controversial decisions went against the Kangaroos in their 18-point loss to Collingwood.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/noble-to-call-umpires-seeking-clarity-on-contentious-decisions-20210508-p57q61.html


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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1691 on: May 09, 2021, 11:09:17 AM »
The standard of umpiring has never been better :rollin

North's Cameron Zurhaar did a Castagna and was pinged for deliberate out of bounds :huh3.

https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1390934601191673864
So de goey gets 2 goals from 50's. One of which was a replica of what wasn't paid against the cats player for not going back on the mark.

What a load of poo

North Melbourne coach David Noble will contact the umpiring department after a series of controversial decisions went against the Kangaroos in their 18-point loss to Collingwood.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/noble-to-call-umpires-seeking-clarity-on-contentious-decisions-20210508-p57q61.html

And David Noble will find just like we have that it is a complete waste of time
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1692 on: May 10, 2021, 08:02:45 AM »
For the first time in my footy viewing life, I’m genuinely starting to wonder at the umpires decisions...
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1693 on: May 10, 2021, 08:38:49 AM »
Get rid of prior opportunity rule. It’s too open to interpretation. Footy survived without it for hundreds of years.
I think it causes all these issues. No call for holding the ball. No call for dropping the ball (incorrect disposal). No fall for ball seemingly falling out of hands when tackled. All because the umpire is trying to ascertain prior opportunity. If prior opportunity doesn’t exist all these are free kicks and the ball is moving again and stoppage is avoided (ball up avoided). Increased speed means more tired players means more open games means more goals scored and a return to mid 90’s footy and pre-prior opportunity rule introduction (1996)

Currently if your a forward and your running after the ball with the defender the forward is encouraged not to possess the ball but to wait for the defender to get possession so the forward can tackle to create a stoppage the defender doesn’t mind because if there’s no prior he won’t get pinged.
This happens time and time again and we get multiple stoppages.

Get rid of Prior opportunity players and clubs will adapt to it. Good players already do and know how to get rid of the footy they are already good at it because they are ball getters and are elite.

 If a player decides to possess the ball he must dispose of it properly otherwise he will think of different ways to make it work as we have seen countless times by Dusty. The great players are already doing it because they are ball winners.

Even on Friday night we saw Rioli tap the ball into space and run onto it creating a nice passage of attacking footy. We would see more of that type of thing.

A lot of problems would be solved and umpires would love to be able to just call it as it is.

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1694 on: May 10, 2021, 09:38:40 AM »
The free kick differential ladder is out and not surprisingly we are at the bottom with 50 less against than for.  We average 16.13% free kicks a game.  Compared that to Adelaide who get an average of 22.9% a game.  It is sometimes the ones you dont get that cause the issue.