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Re: Marlion Pickett [merged]
« Reply #375 on: May 25, 2021, 08:00:12 PM »
Pickett concedes he hit Starcevich at a reasonable speed.

AFL argues rather than trying to minimise the impact, Pickett was trying to increase the force of the impact when he collided with Starcevich. Pickett disagrees.

AFL questioning Pickett's evidence about making minimal to no contact to Starcevich's face. "I suggest you did make impact to his head as the footage shows." Pickett disagrees that the footage shows he hit Starcevich's face, partly because of how blurry it is.

AFL argues Pickett made a swinging arm action. Pickett says he disagrees and that it was a tackling motion, and if he swung the arm it was when he made contact with the shoulder.

Pickett says Starcevich dropped slightly as he went to kick the ball, which was at the same time the contact was made.

Pickett's cross-examination is complete and that is all of Richmond's evidence.

The AFL speaks to the issue of whether the impact was low or medium. Gleeson points to the guidelines - extent of force and injury. "There's no injury as such but you know from the footage ... Starcevich hits the ground pretty hard, stays down for a fair while, looks as if he's in some stage of distress ... though he ultimately takes the kick."

AFL points out the guidelines say there being no injury can still result in a grading as harsh as severe.

AFL points to the guideline that says "strong consideration will be given to the potential to cause injury", which specifically mentions "a forceful round-arm swing". "It was a round-arm motion and it was forceful and it made head-high contact with the player. It's quite open to interpretation that contrary to Mr Pickett's evidence there was meaningful and significant contact made to the head of Starcevich. It's difficult to conclude there was no forceful contact to the head."

AFL: It's quite open to you to conclude that a swinging action like this, with momentum and speed and with the way the contact was made, will almost invariably attract a medium impact designation given the deference to head-high injuries in the guidelines. It would almost be an unusual outcome for this to be rated the lowest category.

Richmond argues with the idea low impact is "unusual". Points to examples in the guidelines, including one that had "a higher potential to cause serious injury" was graded as low.

Richmond also points out the lack of injury caused. "That word potential - was there capacity, realistically, for it to be worse than it was? In my submission the worst-case scenario eventuated; that potential resulted in no injury being suffered by Mr Starcevich."

Richmond says there was a mixture of contact, "most of it to the outer shoulder and chest area", and "some of it high", but "the bulk of the force that was used here was absorbed low - not high".

Richmond: Mr Pickett isn't lucky there wasn't further injury, but he was unlucky to get Mr Starcevich high at all.

Richmond: "This wasn't some kind of wild swinging motion, but the movement of the arm is in a manner of someone attempting to undertake a legitimate tackle."

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-tribunal-2021-live-live-blog-updates-lachie-plowman-marlion-pickett-nick-holman-start-time-suspensions-news/news-story/5b2af39373a8c35829b2efa5a162649b

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Re: Marlion Pickett [merged]
« Reply #376 on: May 25, 2021, 08:03:28 PM »
IN SUMMARY

Pickett's counsel is summarising now, describing Pickett's actions as an attempt at a legitimate tackle.

"What occurred here is an incident where there is a mixture of contact ... the bulk of the force used here was absorbed low.

"The portion of impact that was high could never be graded anything but low.

"He was unlucky to get Starcevich high at all."

https://www.afl.com.au/news/620561/monster-tribunal-follow-it-live-as-three-clubs-fight-bans

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Re: Marlion Pickett [merged]
« Reply #377 on: May 25, 2021, 08:08:30 PM »
STARCEVICH REACTION

Pickett's counsel is continuing his summary.

He queries the description of Pickett's actions as a "round-arm swinging motion", arguing it was a tackling action.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/620561/monster-tribunal-follow-it-live-as-three-clubs-fight-bans

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Re: Marlion Pickett [merged]
« Reply #378 on: May 25, 2021, 08:11:20 PM »
The Tigers are now looking at other examples, one including Perryman and Wines.

The Perryman-Wines incident was low impact - the other incident involves Josh Caddy against Adelaide and was graded as medium impact.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-tribunal-2021-live-live-blog-updates-lachie-plowman-marlion-pickett-nick-holman-start-time-suspensions-news/news-story/5b2af39373a8c35829b2efa5a162649b


We should also show Mathieson's high hit on Short and if that was not reportable then neither should be Pickett's  ::).


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Re: Marlion Pickett [merged]
« Reply #379 on: May 25, 2021, 08:16:37 PM »

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Re: Marlion Pickett [merged]
« Reply #380 on: May 25, 2021, 08:18:51 PM »
DELIBERATION TIME

The jury is now deliberating. We'll have the result as soon as it is announced. Pickett will need the impact to be downgraded to low in order to escape with a fine rather than a one-match ban.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/620561/monster-tribunal-follow-it-live-as-three-clubs-fight-bans



Tribunal chairman says the sole question is whether the impact was medium or low.

The jury will now deliberate.

https://go.arena.im/live/fox-sports-australia/sev4?v=2

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Re: Marlion Pickett [merged]
« Reply #381 on: May 25, 2021, 08:26:28 PM »
STILL WAITING...

The jury of Richard Loveridge, David Neitz and Wayne Henwood has been deliberating for 10 minutes now without a result.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/620561/monster-tribunal-follow-it-live-as-pickett-case-begins

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Re: Marlion Pickett [merged]
« Reply #382 on: May 25, 2021, 08:28:58 PM »
It's a bit of a concern we would use precedents to support our case that are apparently prior to new guidelines. Does this mean the club is unaware of the change to guidelines, surely any changes would be communicated clearly to all clubs.

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Re: Marlion Pickett [merged]
« Reply #383 on: May 25, 2021, 08:31:20 PM »
UNSUCCESSFUL

The Tigers have failed to have the impact downgraded. The jury took into account the speed of Pickett's approach, his round-arm action and did not consider the impact to be low. The penalty will remain at one week.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/620561/monster-tribunal-follow-it-live-as-pickett-case-begins

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Re: Marlion Pickett [merged]
« Reply #384 on: May 25, 2021, 08:35:26 PM »
UNSUCCESSFUL

The Tigers have failed to have the impact downgraded. The jury took into account the speed of Pickett's approach, his round-arm action and did not consider the impact to be low. The penalty will remain at one week.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/620561/monster-tribunal-follow-it-live-as-pickett-case-begins

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Up yours afl and tribunal.

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Re: Marlion Pickett [merged]
« Reply #385 on: May 25, 2021, 08:35:41 PM »
UNSUCCESSFUL

The Tigers have failed to have the impact downgraded. The jury took into account the speed of Pickett's approach, his round-arm action and did not consider the impact to be low. The penalty will remain at one week.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/620561/monster-tribunal-follow-it-live-as-pickett-case-begins

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If it wasn't before it is now, game is officially stuffed

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Re: Marlion Pickett [merged]
« Reply #386 on: May 25, 2021, 08:38:27 PM »
UNSUCCESSFUL

The Tigers have failed to have the impact downgraded. The jury took into account the speed of Pickett's approach, his round-arm action and did not consider the impact to be low. The penalty will remain at one week.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/620561/monster-tribunal-follow-it-live-as-pickett-case-begins

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If it wasn't before it is now, game is officially stuffed

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It was officially stuffed the day they gave Shocking the job.

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Re: Marlion Pickett [merged]
« Reply #387 on: May 25, 2021, 08:46:50 PM »
Deserved the week. It was crude, deliberate and silly.

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Re: Marlion Pickett [merged]
« Reply #388 on: May 25, 2021, 08:57:40 PM »
Wankers. No excuses play CCJ and with any luck it keeps pickett out till the guy can string together a good month of footy
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Re: Marlion Pickett [merged]
« Reply #389 on: May 25, 2021, 09:07:12 PM »
Deserved the week. It was crude, deliberate and silly.

I got no problems with that ,but there is no consistency at all Floss got knocked out gf  doesn't remember a think  and Danger gets off.