Author Topic: Moloney over Lonergan or any number of mids we have.  (Read 5148 times)

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Re: Moloney over Lonergan or any number of mids we have.
« Reply #45 on: December 28, 2012, 05:54:48 PM »
moloney's weaknesses are there for all to see, another glass half full type, one good year and lol it's up on a pedestal
trying to get rid of plodders not add more good old richmond

Got that about right Gerks.   :thumbsup

yeah i thought so
hhhaaarrrrggggghhhhh delusional as usual.  ;)
just assume i cant see his weaknesses.  have the balls to list his weaknesses after all your the one potting him.

ya know i can honestly say when i have a go at our players i make it very clear why.  go look at the rance thread for example. blanket statements dont cut it with me usually its an attempt to cover up ignorance. cmon have the courage to list what you think are his weaknesses. im happy to list what hes done well.

lol  only one good yr eh.  that sort of says just how much you have looked at moloney.you should at least do some homework in this area before making such ill informed comments.
just a little heads up.
in the  4  yrs prior to this yr, which i agree 2012 was a poor yr but good reasons why.  moloney was very good indeed. every bit as good as foley when fit,  and had almost  as much injury in 06 07 with a groin that in the end had to be operated on and  08 shoulder.. he manged just 25 games in those 3 yrs. but hey from now on when criticising our players i wont be letting injury be an excuse. lets cut foley hes a hack and done nothing for how many yrs.

in those yrs 08 only played  8 games in the first half of the yr due to busting his shoulder and missing the rest of the yr,  09 10 11 fully fit hes averaged 24 possesions a game so hes certainly managed to find the ball both inside and out . his defensive pressure and workrate is shown by the fact he layed close to 5 tackles a game in that time frame so he not only got the ball  he worked damn hard with out it. he uses the ball well and he goes and gets it. contested possesion na we dont want players who do that lol.  makes good decisions and is as tough as nails.may not be the quickest bloke going around but hes not slow. he not only has good hands in close but can get out on his own. that will do for starters.

while your  listing all those weaknesses how about you tell us which mids we have that are better than moloney  atm. after all the club has said we need more mids.

all i have asked is why did we not go after moloney who without doubt was the best mature mid availble to any club in the f/a trade period.
i have asked why not when we have shown a preparedness to take 5 mature players aged between 24 and 31. so age definately was not a factor. was a two yr contract unreasonable hell no. is his contract unreasonable reportedly 350k a season definately not. not when the average contract is close to 300k a season it could be more. was attitude a problem well we took edwards so they cant have been too worried about attitude. we took knights who has come off some very quite yrs yet moloney has only really had one quite yr that being 2012 at a club he clearly no longer wanted to be at.
 i ask why not when they themselves have constantly said we need decent mids. but apparently moloney is a hack talk about delusional and blinkered. hes not a richmond player he must be no good.   the club didnt go after him he must be no good. thats exactly how you defenders of all things richmond come across.

i ask these things because imo  they did not do enough to fix  the ruck problems, we have  tall forward problems and didnt take one tall forward who like ruckmen take time to develop, 
we have not gone close to addressing  the dearth of midfielders in particular. yet finals are the goal or arent they. hence i ask could we have done better and should we have done better.

its the off season,  just after all drafts have finished.  now should be the time to discuss what we have done and how well we have done.
 now is the time to ask why or why not.
but hey lets not have threads that actually mean we may have to question what they have done. nope we cant have that.

its the same every yr the same people defending everything and anything unquestioningly.




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Re: Moloney over Lonergan or any number of mids we have.
« Reply #46 on: December 28, 2012, 06:26:51 PM »
is maloney a genuine mid

gerkin greg

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Re: Moloney over Lonergan or any number of mids we have.
« Reply #47 on: December 29, 2012, 11:00:28 AM »
he's a genuine plodding journeyman that plays for brisbane

is there another trade period before the season starts that i'm not aware of?

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Re: Moloney over Lonergan or any number of mids we have.
« Reply #48 on: December 29, 2012, 11:04:47 AM »
ya know i can honestly say when i have a go at our players i make it very clear why.  go look at the rance thread for example. blanket statements dont cut it with me usually its an attempt to cover up ignorance. cmon have the courage to list what you think are his weaknesses. im happy to list what hes done well.

as requested

sheesh let's look at moloney too slow as one sided as they come disposal is not afl standard is extremely poor defensively unable to follow instruction has a poor attitude in fact there is not much going for this guy he's old lacks durability wants a serious pay packet sheesh its no wonder no clubs wanted him not his own not gws or gc who have money to burn none of the successful clubs but I guess someone is a sucker

poo version of tuck on massive dollars and people wonder why we are going backwards with cameron in charge sheesh

didn't read the rest of your post

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Re: Moloney over Lonergan or any number of mids we have.
« Reply #49 on: December 29, 2012, 03:31:56 PM »
ya know i can honestly say when i have a go at our players i make it very clear why.  go look at the rance thread for example. blanket statements dont cut it with me usually its an attempt to cover up ignorance. cmon have the courage to list what you think are his weaknesses. im happy to list what hes done well.

as requested

sheesh let's look at moloney too slow as one sided as they come disposal is not afl standard is extremely poor defensively unable to follow instruction has a poor attitude in fact there is not much going for this guy he's old lacks durability wants a serious pay packet sheesh its no wonder no clubs wanted him not his own not gws or gc who have money to burn none of the successful clubs but I guess someone is a sucker

poo version of tuck on massive dollars and people wonder why we are going backwards with cameron in charge sheesh

didn't read the rest of your post
hhhaaarrrggghhhhh hhhhaaaarrrgggghhh hhhhaaaarrrrggggghhhh thanks for confirming to everyone you have nfi.its funny how a so called footy follower can be so ignorant.
can i suggest with that sort of ignorance you stay away from discussing players you wont look so freakin silly if you do.

your stupidity will probably mean i wont be reading anymore of your posts not worth wasting my time. ;)

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Re: Moloney over Lonergan or any number of mids we have.
« Reply #50 on: December 29, 2012, 04:01:42 PM »
blanket statements dont cut it with me usually its an attempt to cover up ignorance.
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Re: Moloney over Lonergan or any number of mids we have.
« Reply #51 on: December 29, 2012, 04:43:46 PM »
Moloney had issues with attitude and demanded a minimum 2 year deal. The only guy we got with issues was Edwards but that was for just one year. Even his price was higher than Edwards.

oh can you tell me what issues aaron edwards has? i personally dont see any.  as i have said if you want to hang edwards for getting peeed in the off season you had better be consistent and be prepared to hang probably 99% of all players.
without a doubt most get peeed, most act the fool, some even get into trouble with the law. but by and large most of what goes on is swept under the carpet and controlled firstly by the clubs and then by the afl your kidding yourself if you think differently
.we do it in society as well and most walks of life seems every one has to be seen to be doing the right thing regardless of what the reality is.
i dont have a problem with edwards primarily because he hasnt done much wrong other than live up to somebody elses opinion on how he should behave. nope im all for him because despite the do gooders  hes a good bloke and he can play a bit. same goes for moloney.

I'm still trying to get my head around this gold.

Firstly "lockup" has had indiscretions at 3 clubs.
West coast got rid of him as did the Kangaroos ( after numerous problems)
But let's not let facts get in the way of Claws argument.
Secondly he was so valuable to north that his last game was a thrashing to the dawks. They got rid of him for a very late pick in the draft. Very valuable commodity indeed.

Claw also states that "most" players get peeed and act foolish or get locked up.
Haven't seen this or read this of Cotchin, Deledio, Rance, Foley, or MOST players on our list let alone the entire AFL. But its apparently fact because Claw says so. 

Well done Claw!   :clapping :clapping :clapping
The club that keeps giving.

gerkin greg

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Re: Moloney over Lonergan or any number of mids we have.
« Reply #52 on: December 29, 2012, 06:28:26 PM »
blanket statements dont cut it with me usually its an attempt to cover up ignorance.
:shh

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the claw

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Re: Moloney over Lonergan or any number of mids we have.
« Reply #57 on: December 30, 2012, 04:13:23 PM »
Moloney had issues with attitude and demanded a minimum 2 year deal. The only guy we got with issues was Edwards but that was for just one year. Even his price was higher than Edwards.

oh can you tell me what issues aaron edwards has? i personally dont see any.  as i have said if you want to hang edwards for getting peeed in the off season you had better be consistent and be prepared to hang probably 99% of all players.
without a doubt most get peeed, most act the fool, some even get into trouble with the law. but by and large most of what goes on is swept under the carpet and controlled firstly by the clubs and then by the afl your kidding yourself if you think differently
.we do it in society as well and most walks of life seems every one has to be seen to be doing the right thing regardless of what the reality is.
i dont have a problem with edwards primarily because he hasnt done much wrong other than live up to somebody elses opinion on how he should behave. nope im all for him because despite the do gooders  hes a good bloke and he can play a bit. same goes for moloney.

I'm still trying to get my head around this gold.


yes i can see you have problems with basic logic, common sense  and find reality and real life challenging.

 i think i asked this before are you 10yrs of age. to be so  lacking in such life skills one would think so. only a 10 yr old could be so naieve.

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Re: Moloney over Lonergan or any number of mids we have.
« Reply #58 on: December 30, 2012, 07:44:02 PM »
You type like a 10 year old.