How did this happen ?

[mat073]

                            2006 ladder

                     P         W   D    L      %      pts             
9 Richmond     22        11   0    11     86.1   44



15 Essendon   22        3     1    18     81.9   14
16 Carlton      22        3     1    18     74.2   14

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                             2009 ladder

                   P         W     D     L      %      pts

7 Carlton      22         13    0     9      110.5  52
8 Essendon   22         10    1     11     97.8   42



15 Richmond 22          5     1     16     74.3    22

We are now the only team since the start of 2006 to not play finals.
Carlton- a team that got caught cheating and had to endure crippling draft penalties have now roared past us.

[bojangles17]

interesting perspective that, no secret that our youth investment that started prior to that period has not paid the dividends that Carltons has and to a lesser extent ESS. I still maintain that our list compares pretty well to the Bombers. They are a great example of a coach extracting the utmost and playing to the strengths of the group, two qualites that couldn't be said of TW reign

[Jackstar is back]

Just said on ""on the couch ""
Worst month EVER of AFL Footy by a team

[Francois Jackson]

interesting perspective that, no secret that our youth investment that started prior to that period has not paid the dividends that Carltons has and to a lesser extent ESS. I still maintain that our list compares pretty well to the Bombers. They are a great example of a coach extracting the utmost and playing to the strengths of the group, two qualites that couldn't be said of TW reign

our list doesn't compare to the Bombers. no way they are so far in front of us its not funny.

Even with the Lucas retiring and with Fletcher and Lloyd to follow it wont make one bit of difference. They dont need them at all.

Our best players in the past 2 years have been Richo and Cuz.

The entire recruting since Wallace started 5 years ago has been abysmal while the Blues & Bombers well the rest is history

[yellowandback]

I had a coffee with a mate who has connections that work pretty closely with the club.

The bottom line is that we have too many people who either work in the club or heavily influencing it that are past it and behave with self interest.

It isn't just Damien Hardwick who needs to do a clean out.

We pay our professionals a pittance and end up with a low watermark in quality.

There are several people who need to be told (as politely but firmly as possible) to shove off and pay golf. Leadership starts at the top (ironic hey) and we have not set the right leadership at the club to support the people who make the difference - coaching staff and players.

If this does not happen, it won't just be the coach who will find the task futile.

If you want a "milestone" on our progress then look no further than this forum for the "whispers" that don't come to anything. Come to think of it.....

[torch]

Terry went the quick fix Richmond, instead of the development Richmond.

[Francois Jackson]

Terry went the quick fix Richmond, instead of the development Richmond.

correct.

writing was on the wall with the Kingsley trade.

the tanned one misjudged the list and went for the quick fix while the others bottomed out and went for the kids.

[Jackstar is back]

I had a coffee with a mate who has connections that work pretty closely with the club.

The bottom line is that we have too many people who either work in the club or heavily influencing it that are past it and behave with self interest.

It isn't just Damien Hardwick who needs to do a clean out.

We pay our professionals a pittance and end up with a low watermark in quality.

There are several people who need to be told (as politely but firmly as possible) to shove off and pay golf. Leadership starts at the top (ironic hey) and we have not set the right leadership at the club to support the people who make the difference - coaching staff and players.

If this does not happen, it won't just be the coach who will find the task futile.

If you want a "milestone" on our progress then look no further than this forum for the "whispers" that don't come to anything. Come to think of it.....

I like this post, plenty of truth spoken by your friend.

[bojangles17]

Just said on ""on the couch ""
Worst month EVER of AFL Footy by a team

hmm, how did ESS go in last 3 rounds of 2008 ...i read elsewhere it was 3 x 10g hammerings...late season dead rubbers should be ignored either side of the ledger

[Infamy]

I had a coffee with a mate who has connections that work pretty closely with the club.

The bottom line is that we have too many people who either work in the club or heavily influencing it that are past it and behave with self interest.

It isn't just Damien Hardwick who needs to do a clean out.

We pay our professionals a pittance and end up with a low watermark in quality.

There are several people who need to be told (as politely but firmly as possible) to shove off and pay golf. Leadership starts at the top (ironic hey) and we have not set the right leadership at the club to support the people who make the difference - coaching staff and players.

If this does not happen, it won't just be the coach who will find the task futile.

If you want a "milestone" on our progress then look no further than this forum for the "whispers" that don't come to anything. Come to think of it.....

I like this post, plenty of truth spoken by your friend.

You do realise that he's talking about you here as well

[bojangles17]

I had a coffee with a mate who has connections that work pretty closely with the club.

The bottom line is that we have too many people who either work in the club or heavily influencing it that are past it and behave with self interest.

It isn't just Damien Hardwick who needs to do a clean out.

We pay our professionals a pittance and end up with a low watermark in quality.

There are several people who need to be told (as politely but firmly as possible) to shove off and pay golf. Leadership starts at the top (ironic hey) and we have not set the right leadership at the club to support the people who make the difference - coaching staff and players.

If this does not happen, it won't just be the coach who will find the task futile.

If you want a "milestone" on our progress then look no further than this forum for the "whispers" that don't come to anything. Come to think of it.....

well with a NEW CEO in the seat champ I would expect a new direction to co-incide with a NEW look coaching panel

[bojangles17]

interesting perspective that, no secret that our youth investment that started prior to that period has not paid the dividends that Carltons has and to a lesser extent ESS. I still maintain that our list compares pretty well to the Bombers. They are a great example of a coach extracting the utmost and playing to the strengths of the group, two qualites that couldn't be said of TW reign

our list doesn't compare to the Bombers. no way they are so far in front of us its not funny.

Even with the Lucas retiring and with Fletcher and Lloyd to follow it wont make one bit of difference. They dont need them at all.

Our best players in the past 2 years have been Richo and Cuz.

The entire recruting since Wallace started 5 years ago has been abysmal while the Blues & Bombers well the rest is history

they've been coached a helluva alot better than us, thats the diff...I'd take our midfield of Lids, cotch, axel and Tambling and collins over there's any day...our backs compare well and Jack riewoldt/Morton/nahas comprare pretty well with what they have unearthewd thus far up forward....we're a mile behind in the manner in which we play as a team...inlist wise...we're right up there...make no mistake, thats the word on the street

[Jackstar is back]

I had a coffee with a mate who has connections that work pretty closely with the club.

The bottom line is that we have too many people who either work in the club or heavily influencing it that are past it and behave with self interest.

It isn't just Damien Hardwick who needs to do a clean out.

We pay our professionals a pittance and end up with a low watermark in quality.

There are several people who need to be told (as politely but firmly as possible) to shove off and pay golf. Leadership starts at the top (ironic hey) and we have not set the right leadership at the club to support the people who make the difference - coaching staff and players.

If this does not happen, it won't just be the coach who will find the task futile.

If you want a "milestone" on our progress then look no further than this forum for the "whispers" that don't come to anything. Come to think of it.....

I like this post, plenty of truth spoken by your friend.

You do realise that he's talking about you here as well

As I have said on many occassions, I have nothing to do with the place, get the drift bozo

[Infamy]

I had a coffee with a mate who has connections that work pretty closely with the club.

The bottom line is that we have too many people who either work in the club or heavily influencing it that are past it and behave with self interest.

It isn't just Damien Hardwick who needs to do a clean out.

We pay our professionals a pittance and end up with a low watermark in quality.

There are several people who need to be told (as politely but firmly as possible) to shove off and pay golf. Leadership starts at the top (ironic hey) and we have not set the right leadership at the club to support the people who make the difference - coaching staff and players.

If this does not happen, it won't just be the coach who will find the task futile.

If you want a "milestone" on our progress then look no further than this forum for the "whispers" that don't come to anything. Come to think of it.....

I like this post, plenty of truth spoken by your friend.

You do realise that he's talking about you here as well

As I have said on many occassions, I have nothing to do with the place, get the drift bozo

Maybe not in any official capacity, but you clearly have some part in the "whispers" on this forum that were referred to

[Jackstar is back]

I had a coffee with a mate who has connections that work pretty closely with the club.

The bottom line is that we have too many people who either work in the club or heavily influencing it that are past it and behave with self interest.

It isn't just Damien Hardwick who needs to do a clean out.

We pay our professionals a pittance and end up with a low watermark in quality.

There are several people who need to be told (as politely but firmly as possible) to shove off and pay golf. Leadership starts at the top (ironic hey) and we have not set the right leadership at the club to support the people who make the difference - coaching staff and players.

If this does not happen, it won't just be the coach who will find the task futile.

If you want a "milestone" on our progress then look no further than this forum for the "whispers" that don't come to anything. Come to think of it.....

I like this post, plenty of truth spoken by your friend.

You do realise that he's talking about you here as well

As I have said on many occassions, I have nothing to do with the place, get the drift bozo

Maybe not in any official capacity, but you clearly have some part in the "whispers" on this forum that were referred to

Havent had any involvement since end of 2006.
As for the whispers, not my fault the employ clowns who cant keep the trap shut.