Richard Tambling threads [merged]

[bg25]

the franklin , tambling issue is well and truely dead. but certain people at the rfc and on this site need to admit, tambling will never be as good as franklin, and never will. just admit we made the wrong call.

Uh..there were 4 players drafted ahead of Buddy of which Richie was the 4th. Why is it only Richie that is compared to him? Surely if he is so good questions should really be asked of Deledio, Griffin and Roughead.

Roughead looks like he'll be a good player for the Hawks, but how silly would they look now if they'd opted for him at 3 and missed out on Franklin...because that's the real comparison - tall for tall.

And btw what club ever admits they made a wrong call in the draft...can't recall any club ever admitting a mistake.

[blx]

the franklin , tambling issue is well and truely dead. but certain people at the rfc and on this site need to admit, tambling will never be as good as franklin, and never will. just admit we made the wrong call.

You can say Tambling might not ever be as good as Buddy but you cant definatively say Tambling wont ever be as good as Buddy.

Thats just pie in the sky stuff.

[richmondrules]

Uh..there were 4 players drafted ahead of Buddy of which Richie was the 4th. Why is it only Richie that is compared to him? Surely if he is so good questions should really be asked of Deledio, Griffin and Roughead.

It's because it's good value for supporters of other teams to get on our nerves. The comparisons are silly and the idea that anyone has a crystal ball to see how good a player will be before the draft is equally silly. It's been talked up so much that it has snowballed and become entrenched in everyones psyche.

Pointless discussion if you are a Richmond supporter, good stirring value if you are not. Absolutely no other value. Of course while there are Richmond supporters who will address this discussion and try to justify the Tambling choice, which does not need justification, the topic will never disappear.

There is no point to criticising Deledio because he is obviously a good player and any discussion would not have legs. Roughead? Why would Hawthorn supporters criticise their own choice? Anyway he's shown a bit also. Griffin? Nobody barracks for the Western Bulldogs so they are pretty inoffensive.

Everyone loves to hate us. There were quite a few comments floating around about Hawthorn stuffing it up when they didn't pick Tambling. We're just paying the price for some indiscreet comments after the 2004 draft. If you really think about it, the whole discussion is more about Hawthorn supporters insecurities than Richmond.

[one-eyed]

Just moved all the franklin stuff out of the trade thread and merged it here.

[blx]

when will terry and greg miller come out and admit to choosing the wrong player in the draft, tambling as good as he may become, will never be a match winner like franklin. the same goes for the bulldogs (griffen).how handy would franklin be next to richo and brown, the thought of it brings tears to my eyes.

hey Knobhead03, go support the Hawks if you love Franklin so ^%$#n much! BYE BYE 

[Rodgerramjet]

Franklin may never have gotten the same opportunities with us as he has with the hawks.

I also don't believe that we would have been able to control the huge ego that this lad is noted for in the early stages like the hawks have. He's at the right club for him, a bunch of egotistical arrogant arseholes.

[mightytiges]

The way they are carrying on about Franklin you'd think Hawthorn's improvement this year had nothing to do with the fact that on the weekend the Hawks had 17 of his 22 teammates aged 23 years or older with 13 in their peak years (23-27 y.o.). A young side my backside  .

33: Crawford
30: Dixon, Smith, Vandenberg
27: Croad
26: Bateman
25: Campbell, Guerra, Osborne, Taylor
24: Brown, Mitchell
23: Boyle, Gilham, Hodge, Ladson, Sewell
21: Lewis, Young
20: Franklin, Roughead
19: Birchall

Only Williams who's 24 would be missing from their best 22 too so hardly an injury is a major bonus.

In bold are Clarkson's recruits.

[richmondrules]

Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story MT. 

[cub]

Meet yous on the other side 

[wayne]

33: Crawford
30: Dixon, Smith, Vandenberg
27: Croad
26: Bateman
25: Campbell, Guerra, Osborne, Taylor
24: Brown, Mitchell
23: Boyle, Gilham, Hodge, Ladson, Sewell
21: Lewis, Young
20: Franklin, Roughead
19: Birchall

People criticize our drafting of smalls, but the Dawks don't have many in their side. Franklin, Roughead, Croad and the ruckmen

[mightytiges]

33: Crawford
30: Dixon, Smith, Vandenberg
27: Croad
26: Bateman
25: Campbell, Guerra, Osborne, Taylor
24: Brown, Mitchell
23: Boyle, Gilham, Hodge, Ladson, Sewell
21: Lewis, Young
20: Franklin, Roughead
19: Birchall

People criticize our drafting of smalls, but the Dawks don't have many in their side. Franklin, Roughead, Croad and the ruckmen

Birchall, Gilham and Boyle are talls as well. Croad is only 190cm but like Joel plays KP. Croad is even shorter than Paddy Bowden believe it or not.

[one-eyed]

A reminder for Hawk fans of the pre-draft concerns about Franklin which their own club shared.

So how did he ever last until pick five in a national draft given his God-given talents and a 196cm frame that was evident at the 2004 Under-18 National Championships in Victoria?

There is no simple explanation, rather a number of puzzle pieces that when placed together persuaded the recruiting people, including Hawthorn, to let Franklin fall through to their second pick (the Hawks took Jarryd Roughead with their first, No. 2).

Every draft has a Franklin story, as recently as Joel Selwood (seven) last year, Beau Waters (11) in 2003 or Nick Dal Santo (13) in 2001. For Buddy it reads like this:

1: Doubts on his overhead marking, meaning a lack on contested marks would see him become a third tall rather than go-to man.

2: Blatant disregard for the defensive side of the game, so often prevalent in child footballing prodigies.

3: A poor under-18 carnival of 2004 (despite a matchwinning goal against Vic Country), confirming his talent would be spasmodic at best.

4: A belief his mental application, on and off the field, might ultimately prevent him from reaching his athletic capabilities.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,22420030%255E19742,00.html

[tigersalive]

   I was very happy to see Jon Anderson write such an article today.

Put together the freakish talent and the negatives together instead of biased rubbish.

Was a great read.

Jon anderson. 

[mightytiges]

Good luck to Hawthorn but their own fans who give us crap forget their club hesitated before pick 5 on draft day. The Hawks took Roughead at 2 to try and get Tambling at 5 thinking we would go for a tall (Buddy) at 4. We wanted Lids at 1 and Roughead at 4. Both clubs didn't eventually get what they wanted before the 2004 draft no matter how much spin they say now to make out what they got was part of their grand plans.

[Hellenic Tiger]

The only reason Hawk fans are feeling smug is Terry came out after the draft and paraded all the draftees with Mark Graham at Clinton Casey's house and Terry precluded he had the best 2 players in the draft. Hawk fans have miscontrued the words and have been unforgiving since.
In my humble opinion ask me in 10 years and we well see the winner of that race. As Malcolm Blight once quipped post match after Geelong were belted in Round 1.
"The race is a marathon the one leading out of the stadium is not necessarily the one leading into the stadium".

Yeah maybe we should remind them of their Premiership Credentials in 2004 after Schwabby said they could go all the way and by round 7 riga mortis was more advanced on his corpse than Spud's.

If neither team wins a premiership during these players tenures at these clubs well what have Hawthorn got to gloat about. Its all about premierships isn't it. If Richmond wins a flag first and either Lids or Richie are not in the 22 does that make our success tarnished in the Hawk fans eyes b/c either of these boys were not playing? Please.

I have said it before and I will say it again Hawthorn fans still think we live in a time warp and it is 1989 and that they have a divine right to a flag. Furthermore they are what a psychiatrist who is worth his salt would describe characters with an inferiority complex not about what they are actually doing but more concerned with what others are doing and belittling the way they go about it. If my club had been called the Mayblooms once during its history and wore brown and yellow I too would have an inferiority complex.

Hawks are one loss away from oblivion.
Premiership Score since 2005
Richmond 0
Hawthorn 0.