Richmond Squad for Yea

[RollsRoyce]

Has anybody heard how Richmond's 2nd 18 is going? I believe they have a match at Craigieburn (against Essendon's 2nd 18?) which started at 2pm. Any scores or updates?

http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum//index.php?topic=10373.30

 

Thanks - I think

[mightytiges]

I believe that Relton Webberley Taylor Dea will all play.

Good to hear blaisee.

Interesting to note that White, Rance, Mcmahon all left out of the side.

Statement or coincidence you think?

It doesn't appear any of them made a reply to that statement at Coburg today 

[WA Tiger]

So, what players have they got out compared to us, we have nearly a full strength side and they are minus most of their main players. I am not treating this game anything other than a practice match and I didn't say anything that would indicate other wise. All I said is with the amount of players they have out compared to our side we should beat them,. Play the youth ra ra ra we all know that, everyone has been saying that since half way through last year. 

I think one of the flaws in your agrument WAT is how you appear to view Geelong's second stringers.

Some of them would easlity walk into a young side like ours.

So even if we have nearly a full squad that doesn't equate to us being ahead of a weaker Cats line up

So our supposed top line players cant beat their second stringers, thats what I am saying, we have a full on side named, we should be able to beat their second stringers yeah or not. If not we are 6-8 years off a premiership.

[WA Tiger]

Kinda missed my first post then smokey?

Interesting to see who will come out of that side actually, looks pretty close to having all our main players in that will play round one, bar Polak. Might wan't to play the bets of that lot and include some of the newbies to see where we are at playing the Cats. Interesting to see Polo out too!!

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Yeah

WTF?  What is the relevance of your first post to my point?

WTF was yours to mine then????

[WilliamPowell]

So our supposed top line players cant beat their second stringers, thats what I am saying, we have a full on side named, we should be able to beat their second stringers yeah or not. If not we are 6-8 years off a premiership.

You've missed my point

If you are saying that the squad we've put up is close to our best then I am saying that some of their 2nd stringers are currently better than some of those in our squad this weekend. And part of that is simply because we are so young.

I don't quite understand how you can suggest that the likes of Webberley, Taylor and Dea are part of our best at this point when we haven't seen them play and they are in their first AFL season

[tony_montana]

So, what players have they got out compared to us, we have nearly a full strength side and they are minus most of their main players. I am not treating this game anything other than a practice match and I didn't say anything that would indicate other wise. All I said is with the amount of players they have out compared to our side we should beat them,. Play the youth ra ra ra we all know that, everyone has been saying that since half way through last year. 

I think one of the flaws in your agrument WAT is how you appear to view Geelong's second stringers.

Some of them would easlity walk into a young side like ours.

So even if we have nearly a full squad that doesn't equate to us being ahead of a weaker Cats line up

So our supposed top line players cant beat their second stringers, thats what I am saying, we have a full on side named, we should be able to beat their second stringers yeah or not. If not we are 6-8 years off a premiership.

i think tomorrow will give you  reality check, of where we're really at

[Mr Magic]

It doesn't appear any of them made a reply to that statement at Coburg today 

Then again maybe they did.

[mightytiges]

Has McGuane been missing from training ?
My mail is he spent a week in hospital, is okay now, alhough wont be ready till round 1,
Got kneed in the groin at training.
Is well behind with his pre season ??

Luke was training last tuesday week. He was missing with some injury and in the rehab group prior to that training session AFAIK.

[jackstar is back again]

Has McGuane been missing from training ?
My mail is he spent a week in hospital, is okay now, alhough wont be ready till round 1,
Got kneed in the groin at training.
Is well behind with his pre season ??

Luke was training last tuesday week. He was missing with some injury and in the rehab group prior to that training session AFAIK.

Went to hospital,
Is okay now although wont be ready to round 1 ?

[Smokey]

WTF was yours to mine then????

There was none. I never commented on your first post!  For the record, here is my initial post:

Well in all honesty then if we can't beat them with those players out......

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And we won't have our full side and it's a practice match and it's in the middle of woop woop and it's still Feb.  Anyone putting more than a poofteenth of relevance on the outcome is kidding themselves.  Like the first game I just want to see what the kids have to offer.

You then fired back with:

So, what players have they got out compared to us, we have nearly a full strength side and they are minus most of their main players. I am not treating this game anything other than a practice match and I didn't say anything that would indicate other wise. All I said is with the amount of players they have out compared to our side we should beat them,. Play the youth ra ra ra we all know that, everyone has been saying that since half way through last year.

So I'll say it again - I think you missed the point of my post.  My point being that there are so many factors that will influence or mask the reality of both lists on the day that it will be irrelevant to make any sort of comment about who should beat who.  You appeared to agree with that yet immediately disagree with yourself in your reply so I'm not sure what perspective you were viewing it from or taking.

"I am not treating this game anything other than a practice match" vs "with the amount of players they have out compared to our side we should beat them" says to me that you are treating it as more than a practice match because a practice match is just that - for clubs to test, try, practice and evaluate all sorts of things - and there is no relevance to the reality of who should beat who.  Playing lists mean nothing in practice matches.

What any of this had to do with your first post or why you considered my post was referring to it I have no idea.

[WA Tiger]

WTF was yours to mine then????

There was none. I never commented on your first post!  For the record, here is my initial post:

Well in all honesty then if we can't beat them with those players out......

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And we won't have our full side and it's a practice match and it's in the middle of woop woop and it's still Feb.  Anyone putting more than a poofteenth of relevance on the outcome is kidding themselves.  Like the first game I just want to see what the kids have to offer.

You then fired back with:

So, what players have they got out compared to us, we have nearly a full strength side and they are minus most of their main players. I am not treating this game anything other than a practice match and I didn't say anything that would indicate other wise. All I said is with the amount of players they have out compared to our side we should beat them,. Play the youth ra ra ra we all know that, everyone has been saying that since half way through last year.

So I'll say it again - I think you missed the point of my post.  My point being that there are so many factors that will influence or mask the reality of both lists on the day that it will be irrelevant to make any sort of comment about who should beat who.  You appeared to agree with that yet immediately disagree with yourself in your reply so I'm not sure what perspective you were viewing it from or taking.

"I am not treating this game anything other than a practice match" vs "with the amount of players they have out compared to our side we should beat them" says to me that you are treating it as more than a practice match because a practice match is just that - for clubs to test, try, practice and evaluate all sorts of things - and there is no relevance to the reality of who should beat who.  Playing lists mean nothing in practice matches.

What any of this had to do with your first post or why you considered my post was referring to it I have no idea.

Are you kidding me or what, "playing lists mean nothing in practice matches"???????????? How do you work that out, I know its a practice match and I am treating it the same as you were thats why your post didnt make any sense to me, just because I said we should win. If we go into this game with the side we have on paper practice match or not we should beat the Cats as they have 80% of their best GF side out. Do you really think playing lists mean nothing????? Honestly dont you think we should win this based on our team on paper, if not I am not sure when you want or expect us to win because this will be just about our best side minus maybe 4 average players.

[one-eyed]

Troy Simmonds has been named for today's match after recovering from minor injury, with Cousins, Troy Taylor and mature-aged rookie Graham Polak also in the squad.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-fight-to-hold-fans/story-e6frf9jf-1225834979525

[Judge Roughneck]

is the game on radio or tv?

[Smokey]

Are you kidding me or what, "playing lists mean nothing in practice matches"

No, dead serious.  They don't mean a thing in practice matches.  You can have the best looking list on paper but because it's a proctice match you decide to try your best forwards out as defenders, rucks as forwards, practice the skill of 'keepings off' instead of your normal attacking gameplan, change your normal rotations to blood kids, etc etc etc.  There are a thousand things you might/can do in practice matches that bear no resemblance to the performance of a team in the real season, and because of that you can put no stock in a.  the list, and b. the result.

I know its a practice match and I am treating it the same as you were thats why your post didnt make any sense to me, just because I said we should win. If we go into this game with the side we have on paper practice match or not we should beat the Cats as they have 80% of their best GF side out. Do you really think playing lists mean nothing.

No, I don't believe you are treating it the same as me, otherwise you would have placed no expectations on a win.

Honestly dont you think we should win this based on our team on paper, if not I am not sure when you want or expect us to win because this will be just about our best side minus maybe 4 average players.

See above.  I have no expectations of any result - there are so many variables in a practice match that to set any expectation based on names alone is a folly.  We will probably lose because of where are coming from as a club but it's a practice match - who knows what Hardwick or Thompson have planned for their respective teams?

[mightytiges]

It doesn't appear any of them made a reply to that statement at Coburg today 

Then again maybe they did.

Good to hear that Taylor is in the side today btw. A chance to show footy and being under the eyes of the RFC is the best way to get his life on track.