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Tigers face unrest over finances (Age)
« on: November 28, 2010, 03:28:35 AM »
Tigers face unrest over finances
Jon Pierik
November 28, 2010


CONCERNS over sponsorship and selling matches interstate have prompted a call for change on the Richmond board.

Tigers president Gary March and fellow board members Peggy Haines and John Matthies are up for re-election, prompting Tigers coterie member Philip Anderson and Neil McKay, part of the club's executive group and a director of the Coburg Football Club, to nominate.

The Tigers have made considerable progress under March's stewardship, although there was major agitation among potential challengers early last season about the club's on-field fortunes before the wins started to come for rookie coach Damien Hardwick.
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The Tigers are in the middle of negotiations with a new major sponsor after Dick Smith and Luxbet opted to reduce their contributions.

McKay, a general manager with GE Capital, has told club members the Tigers should have greater financial stability.

''In fact, it has been a long time since Richmond has had a sustainable corporate relationship, unlike some other clubs in the competition who are deemed to be successful both on and off the field,'' he said.

''The three companies who were on our jumper and shorts in 2010 will no longer be significant supporters of the Tigers. I think that it is reasonable to ask why.''

The Tigers have struck a lucrative three-year deal to play the Gold Coast Suns in Cairns and McKay fears the club could soon become a ''nomad''.

''The board of the club has seen fit to commence selling games to interstate locations clearly to generate additional income,'' he said.

''This is income that we are not generating from corporate support and the club has been forced to seek alternative revenue streams.

''I find this trend concerning as I would hate to see the Tigers go the way of some other AFL clubs who are fast becoming 'nomads'.

''There is no real strategy in playing one game in Darwin and one in North Queensland as you will not gain additional membership from playing in a region so infrequently,'' McKay said.

The Tigers are one year into a five-year plan focused on achieving three finals appearances, no debt and 75,000 members by the end of 2014.

March recently revealed a 12-month plan to eliminate the club's $4.5 million debt. The timing of this announcement has been questioned by Anderson, the founding director of a fibre optic company.

''I congratulate them on finally taking this initiative. This has been a topic of discussion within our coterie groups for many years,'' he said.

''The only point that I would like to make is that this debt has been in place for as long as some of the candidates that are up for re-election.''

March has told members his board has delivered on three platforms - attracting the best people to run the club, upgrading facilities and providing a stable financial model.

He says he hopes to eradicate debt and achieve sustained on-field success in his next term.

Election results will be announced at the Tigers' general meeting on December 15.

http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/tigers-face-unrest-over-finances-20101127-18bhy.html

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Re: Tigers face unrest over finances (Age)
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2010, 08:51:02 AM »
I will fess up to having voted for McKay in the board elections. I only decided to make one change with McKay in and one incumbent out. This type of story shows hes a real smart operator IMHO.

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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2010, 09:54:57 AM »
We need to challenge the board on revenue raising and debt. They are 2 aspects of the off field where we perform poorly compared to the good clubs. Our sponsorship program is poor. This is because our staff have been unable to build a major partner that can last beyond a year or 2. We need a sponsor who we feel can committ for 4 or 5 years as it takes the pressure off and provides a revenue cushion to get more from our secondary sponsors ie collingwood and hawks.
It is hard to build ling term relationships with sponsors when you have turnover of staff at a senior level of corporate operations/marketing.
It's even worse when you employ light weights who do not have relationships with potential sponsors.

It's the last piece in the off field puzzle the club needs to fix.
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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2010, 06:58:17 PM »
I will fess up to having voted for McKay in the board elections. I only decided to make one change with McKay in and one incumbent out. This type of story shows hes a real smart operator IMHO.

Actually the article highlights why I DIDN'T vote for McKay or Anderson

Fear mongering

I actually found this bit rather offensive in its fear mongering :

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McKay, a general manager with GE Capital, has told club members the Tigers should have greater financial stability.

''In fact, it has been a long time since Richmond has had a sustainable corporate relationship, unlike some other clubs in the competition who are deemed to be successful both on and off the field,'' he said.

Very selective and twists something to try and make a point. Name the Clubs Neil your referring too...  really disappointing to me at least

BTW Neil, why don't you get your company with 26%+ interest rates to step up to major spoinsor  :help ;D

Also didn't like the comment about greater "financial stability" either but seeing it isn't a direct quote I'll refrain from being too critical.

Fact is from where I am sitting and knowing what I know about sporting clubs, their boards and how they work and how tough it can be... the 2010 accounts of the RFC are a very good set of numbers

 


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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2010, 07:20:07 PM »
Absolutely spot on WP.
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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2010, 07:32:57 PM »
I will fess up to having voted for McKay in the board elections. I only decided to make one change with McKay in and one incumbent out. This type of story shows hes a real smart operator IMHO.

Actually the article highlights why I DIDN'T vote for McKay or Anderson

Fear mongering

I actually found this bit rather offensive in its fear mongering :

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well said WP, i saw right through that article, and I mean right through for what it was, a political piece of trash that's what it was

McKay, a general manager with GE Capital, has told club members the Tigers should have greater financial stability.

''In fact, it has been a long time since Richmond has had a sustainable corporate relationship, unlike some other clubs in the competition who are deemed to be successful both on and off the field,'' he said.

Very selective and twists something to try and make a point. Name the Clubs Neil your referring too...  really disappointing to me at least

BTW Neil, why don't you get your company with 26%+ interest rates to step up to major spoinsor  :help ;D

Also didn't like the comment about greater "financial stability" either but seeing it isn't a direct quote I'll refrain from being too critical.

Fact is from where I am sitting and knowing what I know about sporting clubs, their boards and how they work and how tough it can be... the 2010 accounts of the RFC are a very good set of numbers

 



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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2010, 07:40:15 PM »
The reason I voted for the incumbents is because coterie members trying to influence the club has been the reason we've been crap for almost 30 years. The last thing we need is them actually being on the board.

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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2010, 07:50:56 PM »
This just shows anyone can be a footy journo these days. Go to any supporter forum or blog then just cut and paste and add a sentence of our own spin and hey presto you have your story for the newspaper editor  ::).


Anyway there's a simple reason why our corporate support is poor compared to other clubs - we suck onfield and have done so for most of the past 30 years. We can't expect to have companies banging on our door wanting to sponsor us when our season has been over within the first month of the past four years. Winning just 6 games in total from the first halves of the past four years (44 matches) shows where we've been really at onfield in recent years. People want to be associated with winners not losers.
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« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2010, 08:00:58 PM »
I will fess up to having voted for McKay in the board elections. I only decided to make one change with McKay in and one incumbent out. This type of story shows hes a real smart operator IMHO.

Actually the article highlights why I DIDN'T vote for McKay or Anderson

Fear mongering

I actually found this bit rather offensive in its fear mongering :

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McKay, a general manager with GE Capital, has told club members the Tigers should have greater financial stability.

''In fact, it has been a long time since Richmond has had a sustainable corporate relationship, unlike some other clubs in the competition who are deemed to be successful both on and off the field,'' he said.



Very selective and twists something to try and make a point. Name the Clubs Neil your referring too...  really disappointing to me at least

BTW Neil, why don't you get your company with 26%+ interest rates to step up to major spoinsor  :help ;D

Also didn't like the comment about greater "financial stability" either but seeing it isn't a direct quote I'll refrain from being too critical.

Fact is from where I am sitting and knowing what I know about sporting clubs, their boards and how they work and how tough it can be... the 2010 accounts of the RFC are a very good set of numbers

 




Geelong Collingwood Adelaide are just 3 clubs that have shown long term that they can keep sponsors. We have failed continually on this over the period. Its not offensive what he said- what he said is actually the truth! Maybe sometimes the truth isnt what we want to hear but we have continually turned over sponsors and we have continually struggled on the sponsorship front since the 1980s. McKay's criticisms may be tough - but they are factual!

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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2010, 08:03:54 PM »
I might also say that other clubs like Norf who we take the pee out of on this forum continually have done a heaps better job marketing and sponsorship wise and its an open secret and has been for years that other clubs dont rate our marketing efforts or strategies.

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« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2010, 08:05:21 PM »
BTW Neil, why don't you get your company with 26%+ interest rates to step up to major spoinsor  :help ;D

26% interest has nothing to do with this. People need to be financially responsible enough not to go to an electrical appliance store or something and rack up 10k in purchases on credit. I agree however that GE Capital should come to the party and sponsor the club.

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« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2010, 08:47:43 PM »
I might also say that other clubs like Norf who we take the pee out of on this forum continually have done a heaps better job marketing......
It can't be that good if they have needed to be propped up for years.

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« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2010, 08:53:27 PM »
The reason I voted for the incumbents is because coterie members trying to influence the club has been the reason we've been crap for almost 30 years. The last thing we need is them actually being on the board.

Agreed.  Especially when said coterie members have offered nothing in the way of a plan to improve what they perceive to be a problem.

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« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2010, 09:17:55 PM »
Geelong Collingwood Adelaide are just 3 clubs that have shown long term that they can keep sponsors. We have failed continually on this over the period. Its not offensive what he said- what he said is actually the truth! Maybe sometimes the truth isnt what we want to hear but we have continually turned over sponsors and we have continually struggled on the sponsorship front since the 1980s. McKay's criticisms may be tough - but they are factual!

Glad you bought it up Flags

Up until we lost the TAC because of a players stupidity they had been our major partner for over 10 years - it was at the time 2nd longest continuous partnership in the league behind the Cats. That shows we can hold to a sponsor

We had Dick Smith for 3 years & Luxbet for 2. Before that we had AFG for 3 years until the GFC hit, before that we had Motorola for 4 or 5 years so the argument that we turn them over is IMHO wrong.

Look at every club that has lacked on filed success over the last 10 years and how they have struggled to get sponsors. Case 1 - Melbourne - lost Primus and took a good 6 months to get the 2 they've got now (Hancook & Kapersky) and they've had them for only 2 years.

Look at Port Adelaide it took until the week before the 2010 season commenced before they finalised all their majors.

Sometime sit is just the nature of the beast. We are talking massive $$ here and companies rightly want value for their buck.

I hate to rain on Neil's and anyone elses parade here but he should know seeing he is already a Director at a footy club but sometimes companies just decide to cease sponsoring and it has nothing to do with the Footy Club it can simply be a case of them wanting to channel their advertsing $$$ somewhere else.



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« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2010, 09:29:44 PM »
I might also say that other clubs like Norf who we take the pee out of on this forum continually have done a heaps better job marketing and sponsorship wise and its an open secret and has been for years that other clubs dont rate our marketing efforts or strategies.

And it took them until 2009 to post consecutive operating profits for the first time in the club's history.  Must have been an absolutely smashing job of marketing and sponsorship that couldn't meet the financial needs of the club for virtually it's entire history.