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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #2370 on: June 04, 2014, 07:48:21 AM »
Did anyone else find it pee poor that the football world celebrated the Tony Abbott government's meagre 500k donation to Adam Goodes' Indigenous program (complete with live TV appearance), after axing 534 million dollars in Federally funded Aboriginal Programs and Assistance?

Wheres the $533,500,000 balance being directed?

I suppose all those Ballet School Mansions, Knighthoods and School Chaplins arent going to pay for themselves....

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« Reply #2371 on: June 04, 2014, 08:27:53 AM »
Not surprised after he took five billion a way from poor people worldwide - thay bed shaft the indigenous
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« Reply #2372 on: June 04, 2014, 08:42:18 PM »

Looks like Tony has pissd off the Nationals as well as most of the rest of us.

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Budget: Liberals boast of 'playing the Nats' over contentious fuel excise hike

By political reporters Mark Simkin and Latika Bourke

One of the budget's most contentious measures, the fuel excise, was born out of a double-dealing power play.

At the very top of the Government there was ferocious arguing, furious lobbying and extraordinary political manoeuvring, as senior Liberals tried to manipulate their Nationals colleagues.

This is the inside story.

Months out from budget day, senior ministers were searching for savings and contemplating something politically toxic.

They wanted to resume indexing the fuel excise to ensure petrol prices rise in line with inflation.

Treasury calculated the measure would reap $2.2 billion over the forward estimates and, most importantly, it would keep raising more and more money every year.

The hard-heads liked the idea but knew they had a problem. How would they get the Coalition's junior partner on board?

A cunning plan is born

Promising to pour money into roads would help, but higher petrol prices are still toxic in the bush, where people drive long distances. So they hatched a cunning plan.

At budget time, Treasury routinely suggests putting the diesel fuel rebate on the sacrificial chopping block.

Worth around $5.5 billion a year, critics call the rebate a hand out, but farmers and miners, who use diesel to run machinery and vehicles vital to their operations, consider it a Holy Grail.

They get a rebate because they use their trucks off road and because the diesel is a business input.

It is considered unfair and inefficient to slug inputs rather than outputs.

Some ministers liked the look of the potential savings but others considered it crazy and said so. Cabinet was split.

Julie Bishop, a West Australian, argued strenuously against touching the rebate.

Trade Minister Andrew Robb was equally vocal, telling colleagues the proposed change was "anti-investment" and would undermine Tony Abbott's mantra that Australia is "open for business".

The Nationals were apoplectic, with one saying "this is a fight we have to win". Barnaby Joyce, the Agriculture Minister, is said to have been "non-negotiable" over the issue.

Outside Parliament, powerful lobby groups were loading their muskets and sharpening their bayonets.

The farmers talked about tractors on the lawns of Parliament House. The miners warned of World War IV - World War III having been its devastatingly successful campaign against Kevin Rudd's super-profits tax.

'Play the Nats'

But it was all a game. Senior Liberals have told the ABC they were never serious about cutting the diesel fuel rebate.

They are boasting it was a tactic to "play the Nats"; the rebate was put on the agenda and deliberately leaked to inflame the Nationals so the party would support the higher fuel excise as the lesser of two evils.

"[Changing the rebate] was never the plan," one senior source declared. "Gina and Twiggy would've come after us" – a reference to two of Australia's richest miners, Gina Rinehart and Andrew Forrest.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-04/liberals-boast-of-playing-the-nats-over-fuel-excise/5500704

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« Reply #2373 on: June 05, 2014, 07:44:05 AM »
Even John Howard thinks Tony's budget is unfair.

John Howard rebukes Tony Abbott over fairness
   
June 5, 2014

Michael Gordon
 
Former prime minister John Howard has delivered a guarded rebuke to Tony Abbott, saying today's politicians rely too heavily on slogans and declaring Australians will support change and reform so long as they are satisfied it is ''fundamentally fair''.

Describing politics today as less ideological than in his time, the country's second longest-serving prime minister has observed: ''We sometimes lose the capacity to argue the case - we think that it sufficient that we utter slogans.''

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/john-howard-rebukes-tony-abbott-over-fairness-20140604-39jgi.html

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #2374 on: June 05, 2014, 04:40:58 PM »
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"Much of the social history of the Western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good...."

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« Reply #2375 on: June 05, 2014, 04:51:17 PM »

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« Reply #2376 on: June 05, 2014, 04:52:04 PM »
Ahh Poo it looked better before the snip with more Spam

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #2377 on: June 08, 2014, 10:50:51 AM »
Australias multi billion dollar purchase of the F-35 has been described as a sham, with the development of the fighter icreasing by hundreds of Billions of dollars in the USA and taking over 20 years to deliver an end product.

The fighter has also come under massive scrutiny for not being able to undertake textbook sharp turns and evasive manoeuvres due to its weight and size, and would be "shredded" in every combat scenario by jets 30 years old, let alone Chinese and Russian planes currently under development and due for delivery.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=abb_1402178861

Well done Tony Abbott. $12,800,000,000.00 down the drain and the security of the country compromised.


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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #2378 on: June 09, 2014, 04:49:13 AM »





Welcome to America
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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #2379 on: June 09, 2014, 09:48:54 PM »

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #2380 on: June 10, 2014, 12:38:32 AM »
Feed the homeless to the hungry.
"Much of the social history of the Western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good...."

- Thomas Sowell


FJ is the only one that makes sense.

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #2381 on: June 10, 2014, 06:50:24 AM »
New Country to visit ....

Canadia  :clapping
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« Reply #2382 on: June 10, 2014, 08:00:34 AM »
Feed the homeless to the hungry.

Whilst throwing away half of the worlds food daily

Consumer-captalism  :bow

I know 1/2 the foodggets thrown away. But genetically modified food is still a good idea.   :whistle
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