Australian Politics thread [merged]

[Damo]

Have you actually read a One Nation policy, WP

ALP and the Libs are both playing a part in their rise. Not surprising as Albo is arguably the worst prime minister of the last 50 years

Yes I'm well aware of One Nations policies. There's even a couple I'm fully in agreement with. But my issue with their policies is that they give no indication on how they intend funding any of them.

AT I'm a older than you so in 50 years I've lived through a lot of Prime Ministers, reckon I'm up to number 10....can as it stands right now Albo isn't the worst ...not even close

Every one of them has had failings. All of them

He’s close to the worst

Gillard worse?
Keating maybe?

[Andyy]

Albo is very run of the mill IMO, especially when compared to what Liberals dished up in that last run with Abbott, Turnbull and Morrison.

If you think he's so much worse it's only because you lean the other way.

[Assange Tiger 😎]

Have never voted Liberal in my life personally.

Albo, Turnbull and Gillard the worst I've seen.

The country is at an all time low. Not an easy time to govern but the ALP are doing a poor job.

[1965]

Albo's doing a crap job according to most on this site. The coalition will be in no state to win an election for the next  10 years. So I guess the PM's job is all Albo's for a while yet.

[WilliamPowell]

He’s close to the worst

Gillard worse?
Keating maybe?

In my lifetime

Morrison is the worst by a long way. Fprget abpit holdong hoses...What he did to the NDIS after Abbott's initial butchering of it is staggering. What should be something that is the envy of the world was decimated and it will take years if not decades to repair. Unforgivable! FWIW we deal with it on daily basis, until you have to deal with it then you really don't have understanding of how it works and should work

Followed by Fraser... he gets easily forgotten. But I will never forget his policies that forced my recently widowed Mum with 2 kids 9 & 7 to go in to then social security and basically have to beg to for a widows pension and child endowment payments...he was the epitome of ensuring the rich got richer and the poor got poorer

Then it is Keating the most arrogant PM ever. Could have been a great ended up being tosser

Rudd was a shocker too. Spineless

[Assange Tiger 😎]

The NDIS is the biggest fraud I've ever encountered in life.

I worked for one of the biggest plan managers in the country. Resigned in part due to being able to do very little about the obvious fraud being committed.

Mourning for every 2nd kid having autism now too. It's an absolute joke and the death of this country

[Andyy]

The NDIS is the biggest fraud I've ever encountered in life.

I worked for one of the biggest plan managers in the country. Resigned in part due to being able to do very little about the obvious fraud being committed.

Mourning for every 2nd kid having autism now too. It's an absolute joke and the death of this country

Agreed.

I work closely with NDIS in my hospital role.

Unbelievably hard to navigate the system for people with genuine disabilities who need significant care. It sometimes takes us 6 months in a hospital bed just to get someone home with carers.

Then you get the 'care coordinators' who email you and ask for unnecessary meetings every week to discuss basically nothing, billing the NDIS $80/hr to send emails for nothing.

Then you have children under 6 who can't read well enough getting onto NDIS as well for 'developmental delay' - I don't mind this to some extent but then there are examples (very close to me) where parents would rather find a problem than work at a solution.

Throw in the autism stuff too. Man...these need to be reviewed ongoing. Again, very close to me personally, some parents will spin any crap to a paediatrician just to get a BS diagnosis so they can just on the scheme.

Plenty of people in need of course, but for some people it's like Munchausen's + laziness.

[Assange Tiger 😎]

Well said mate

[WilliamPowell]

I agree with you Andyy. There are people who should not be on the system but the system allows it and for that GPs have alot to answer for

AT, it isn't a fraud.

It is a system that if it was administered they way it was intended and those who it was designed to assist received what they should it would be brilliant

The Abbott and then Morrison govts but especially ScoMo stripped funding out of the most important part of the program and that was the auditors who were there to hold service providers to account. Do you know what their solution was?

It was to audit the NDIS recipients not the service providers but the recipients...

So in my families case with my oldest bro-in-law who was in his late fifties but has the mental capacity of an 8 to 10 year old was going to have to explain why he should continue to receive funding. This is bloke who can't read or write and doesn't have any concept of money. In his world everything is $50. But let's audit him and see if he deserves NDIS funding..

That was their great idea on how to reign in costs and stop service providers rorting the system.

Talk about Robodebt of the Disabled. I could go on....

[Assange Tiger 😎]

It is fraud, WP. Providers are committing it in bulk as are participants. I can't tell you how many cases i encountered where an independent support worker was clearly splitting money with a participant when invoices were paid.

One of the best examples I reported to my employer for review was a participant who blew through 80% of their budget in 3 months. My favourite invoice was 32 hours of community access on a weekend, 18 of those hours on a Sunday. Who the stuff goes out into the community for 18 hours in one day   This participant's support coordinator rang the customer service team to express concern about the budget at an earlier time and enquired how the invoices were being approved. The participant had it set that they can approve the invoices on the participant portal before it went to the finance department for processing. Every invoice went through without a hitch. Invoices with 70+ hours a week of community access - that's a crazy amount of tax payer money. As long as an invoice looks professional enough and has no errors, it is processed.

There are thousands of cases like this with just one plan manager. I shudder to think how many overall. We are all being taken for a ride and footing the bill...and there is nothing we can do about it

[Andyy]

Oh and I believe it's stopped now, but previously the NDIS would fund sex workers for NDIS participants as part of their 'psychosocial health'.

Can you believe that? Taxpayers paying prostitutes to have sex with people with disabilities.

Nope, not joking here.

[Andyy]

Sad to hear of your family experience WP. It's dreadful.

As for the fraud...well put simply it's an insurance scheme and people who are paid by NDIS abuse it to the enth degree.

Not all. But plenty..