Dustin Martin is playing Scully and Trengove on a break (Herald-Sun)

[Smokey]

didnt help that they were more interested in losing games to gain early draft picks rather than teaching the kids they had how to play football in a way that will win you games.

Possibly but the bigger issue is most definitely in the lack of development in the draftees you tanked to get into the club in the first place.

So I'll ask the obvious question - how do you develop kids when you're trying to lose?

[Penelope]

It's a similar principle as to how the TARDIS is bigger on the inside than the outside.

I believe its called the law of fantasy.

[yellowandback]

We have been here before so I'm not proposing we have the same arguement again.
All I am saying is that the development of young players is paramount in a club filled with youth.
Melbourne, Port Power, Gold Coast and GWS all are clubs filled with lots of young talent.

How that talent got there is one debate, how they develop it is another.

For me, how they got the the club is less important than how they develop them over the next few years.

If that thinking is fanciful, then I'm clicking my heels and going to Kansas!

[Smokey]

We have been here before so I'm not proposing we have the same argument again.

Why not?  It was fun.   

[Judge Roughneck]

didnt help that they were more interested in losing games to gain early draft picks rather than teaching the kids they had how to play football in a way that will win you games.

Possibly but the bigger issue is most definitely in the lack of development in the draftees you tanked to get into the club in the first place.

So I'll ask the obvious question - how do you develop kids when you're trying to lose?

Collingwood and hawthorn won the flag after tanking

So there goes your theory

[WA Tiger]

didnt help that they were more interested in losing games to gain early draft picks rather than teaching the kids they had how to play football in a way that will win you games.

Possibly but the bigger issue is most definitely in the lack of development in the draftees you tanked to get into the club in the first place.

So I'll ask the obvious question - how do you develop kids when you're trying to lose?

Go look at our VFL score, that's how...

[Smokey]

We have been here before so I'm not proposing we have the same arguement again.
All I am saying is that the development of young players is paramount in a club filled with youth.
Melbourne, Port Power, Gold Coast and GWS all are clubs filled with lots of young talent.

How that talent got there is one debate, how they develop it is another.

For me, how they got the the club is less important than how they develop them over the next few years.

If that thinking is fanciful, then I'm clicking my heels and going to Kansas!

Yep, but it was one of the main reasons I was against tanking right from the start - you can't develop kids properly in a side that is being coached to lose.  You can develop them in a scenario like our reserves because the structures are set up how they need to be, the players are being taught the skills they will need to succeed and the intent to win will always be there, so the development should (will) happen regardless of the outcome but when a side is deliberately being restructured and compromised to engineer a loss then only a kid with rare natural talent will be able to overcome that and grow to his full potential. 

And sliding off on a tangent (slightly), what are everyone's thoughts on chasing Trengrove at the end of the season?  I know he still has another year of his contract to go but trades can always be done to satisfy all parties.  He's young, has talent and might just be a bit jaded with the whole MFC scene after being thrown to the wolves as co-skipper a couple of years back and now can't get a game.  I reckon he would come on leaps and bounds under Choco.

Thoughts?

[Smokey]

didnt help that they were more interested in losing games to gain early draft picks rather than teaching the kids they had how to play football in a way that will win you games.

Possibly but the bigger issue is most definitely in the lack of development in the draftees you tanked to get into the club in the first place.

So I'll ask the obvious question - how do you develop kids when you're trying to lose?

Go look at our VFL score, that's how...

Ah, we're trying to lose are we?  1 game in and the sky has come crashing down on you again WAT.  Must be a sad environment to live in where instant gratification is the only measure of things.

[WA Tiger]

didnt help that they were more interested in losing games to gain early draft picks rather than teaching the kids they had how to play football in a way that will win you games.

Possibly but the bigger issue is most definitely in the lack of development in the draftees you tanked to get into the club in the first place.

So I'll ask the obvious question - how do you develop kids when you're trying to lose?

Go look at our VFL score, that's how...

Ah, we're trying to lose are we?  1 game in and the sky has come crashing down on you again WAT.  Must be a sad environment to live in where instant gratification is the only measure of things.

Well we sure as stuff aren't trying to win....Must be great living in the land of sunshine and lollypops..

[Judge Roughneck]

Do Thomas Penders Lewis roughed franklin have medals? Tanking wouldn't work. Better to come 9th

[taztiger4]

didnt help that they were more interested in losing games to gain early draft picks rather than teaching the kids they had how to play football in a way that will win you games.

Possibly but the bigger issue is most definitely in the lack of development in the draftees you tanked to get into the club in the first place.

So I'll ask the obvious question - how do you develop kids when you're trying to lose?

Go look at our VFL score, that's how...

Ah, we're trying to lose are we?  1 game in and the sky has come crashing down on you again WAT.  Must be a sad environment to live in where instant gratification is the only measure of things.

Well we sure as stuff aren't trying to win....Must be great living in the land of sunshine and lollypops..

WAT do yourself a favour and get to a couple of our VFL games, go to the 1/4 & 3/4 time huddle and actually listen to what the line coaches , players & Clarke say, you may well change your thinking

[Penelope]

i see that we are back to the old chestnut that every team except richmond that finished last did so because they tanked 

[Judge Roughneck]

Does that override the score board?

Do we even have a younger reserves than footscracy?


Ah al. You and vlad right. Tanking has never existed

[Penelope]

i see you have been to the george bush school of if you arent with us you must be against us.

what was it called when clubs finished last before the draft?

[Judge Roughneck]

Why do the Nba have a lottery?