Richmond interested in Dylan Shiel [merged]

[Penelope]

how much have richmond offered him, how much have collingwood offered him and how much would you offer him?

[Andyy]

I'd start at $1mil/3 years. See if that's anywhere near the mark.

[Loui Tufga]

I wouldn't be offering Greenwpod much.
I'm not completely convinced he can play! Yes he's had an ok year but so did Daniel Jackson last season. Only 52 games in 6 years with 22 of those this season. IMO his stats don't warrant paying big money for.
If he wants to come to us then let it happen but let's not get caught up in a bidding war over a player who's yet to proove anything.

[Andyy]

I wouldn't be offering Greenwpod much.
I'm not completely convinced he can play! Yes he's had an ok year but so did Daniel Jackson last season. Only 52 games in 6 years with 22 of those this season. IMO his stats don't warrant paying big money for.
If he wants to come to us then let it happen but let's not get caught up in a bidding war over a player who's yet to proove anything.

List needs to improve, especially in the midfield where duds like Grigg are getting a game. We could always offer a guy like Dangerfield $6 million for 5 years, or for a third of that yearly cost you could get a bloke like Greenwood who has finally shrugged off his injury issues and had a great season.

Do you think our current list has the potential to win a flag? Otherwise, who should we be chasing to improve the list, and how much should be be looking to spend on them?


Honestly we're talking $300-400k/year max. It's not exactly a high price. You want a superstar you need to pay easily $500-600k/year for a cheapish one, and $700-1.2+year for a big name.

If North pays Higgins $400k/year surely we could throw $300-400k/year at a bloke like Greenwood.

[Owl]

less greenwood more shiel

[dwaino]

Let dogs and pies battle it out and pay overs for Greenwood and snatch Howlett instead.

[Loui Tufga]

I wouldn't be offering Greenwpod much.
I'm not completely convinced he can play! Yes he's had an ok year but so did Daniel Jackson last season. Only 52 games in 6 years with 22 of those this season. IMO his stats don't warrant paying big money for.
If he wants to come to us then let it happen but let's not get caught up in a bidding war over a player who's yet to proove anything.

List needs to improve, especially in the midfield where duds like Grigg are getting a game. We could always offer a guy like Dangerfield $6 million for 5 years, or for a third of that yearly cost you could get a bloke like Greenwood who has finally shrugged off his injury issues and had a great season.

Do you think our current list has the potential to win a flag? Otherwise, who should we be chasing to improve the list, and how much should be be looking to spend on them?


Honestly we're talking $300-400k/year max. It's not exactly a high price. You want a superstar you need to pay easily $500-600k/year for a cheapish one, and $700-1.2+year for a big name.

If North pays Higgins $400k/year surely we could throw $300-400k/year at a bloke like Greenwood.

Your missing my point. I'd be happy to take Greenwood but not for overs.
All I'm saying is lets not get caught up in a bidding war with Collingwood over a 26yo who in reality for one reason or another has only played 50 games.
If Howlett is on the table then he is the exact player type we need to improve out list.
He is quick, can play both inside and out and has a great kick. If I were Richmond I'd be doing my darndest to get him to Tiger land😉

[dwaino]

I think Carlton are circling Howlett. Will surely start with their second pick so we might have to look at something like second round + someone like Elton? Would cost a bit but if you could get him in and still have our first pick to have a dip in the draft we'd be laughing as he would immediately improve the side.

[tony_montana]

Is that Howlett from the bombres?

[Andyy]

Yes that Howlett. Battler IMO, nothing more.

[tony_montana]

Id prefer Greenwood tbh, Howlett has some talent and a big leap for his size but from what ive seen of him, he doesn't get the ball anywhere near enough, nor does he kick many goals. Good as a defensive fwd but can do better. Of course he did have a career best game against us not too long ago so lock it in eddie, he'll be a tiger.

As long as we don't pay overs Im all for getting another strong inside body to help out Miles and Cotch in the trenches. Like Andy said, 1 mill over 3 years is very reasonable for Greenwood imo, if we get outbid so be it. Howlett wouldnt be on my radar

[Judge Roughneck]

Howlett is poo

[Andyy]

Your missing my point. I'd be happy to take Greenwood but not for overs.
All I'm saying is lets not get caught up in a bidding war with Collingwood over a 26yo who in reality for one reason or another has only played 50 games.
If Howlett is on the table then he is the exact player type we need to improve out list.
He is quick, can play both inside and out and has a great kick. If I were Richmond I'd be doing my darndest to get him to Tiger land😉

Since comparo's are in atm, here Howlett VS Greenwood basic stats.

                     Howlett                    VS                 Greenwood

Age:              25 (21/10/88)                               25 (19/02/89)

Height:          180cm                                          181cm
Weight:          80kg                                             87kg

Games total:   97                                                74
Goals total:     47                                                26

Games '14:     21                                                22
Goals '14:       12                                                16
Av DT points:  77                                               101
Av Disp:          15                                                25
Av Kicks:          9                                                 15
Av HBalls:        7                                                 10
Av Marks:        4                                                   5
Av Tack:          6                                                   4
Av I50:            3                                                   4
Av: Reb50:       1                                                  1


So Greenwood maybe isn't as quick by foot and is 2 tackles down on Howlett. He is far superior everywhere else IMO. Has had a much better year than Howlett. Far bigger body also, and we need inside mids badly. Chimp is brave but not big enough/strong enough. Miles is brace and tougher than Chimp, but still not big enough. Thomas is crap. Jackson retired.

Who are our inside mid options now?

Inside mids:
Chimp (not big/tough enough, plenty courageous though)
Miles (not big enough, but tough/courageous enough)
Thomas (slow/crap)
Foley (not big enough)
Conca (not big enough)

Outside mids:
Deledio
Martin
Edwards
Ellis
Grigg (crap)


I see a massive deficiency of skill and size in our inside mid group. Getting blokes like Greenwood and Shiel would free up guys like Chimp to go forward or outside.

[scjhammo]

we will not be getting Dylan from GWS and that's a gurantee. Greeenwood still up in the air as much as people don't like to hear there are very strong rumours pointing to mitch yep that's right robinson hardwick loves tough guys know that kingy probably our only real bloke that would throw a few punches is gone we need someone in to fly the flag and he could be it and get him at a buy as well

[Phil Mrakov]

Howlett is a spud