Why 6-6-6 rule could force Tigers into a radical shake-up (afl site)

[Slipper]

Stupid & unnecessary window dressing...as someone said elsewhere- could you imagine the EPL changing the rules of football on the say so of some wanker peeant journalist like Whately? Amateur hour in Clown World.

Pretty average look with the application of the new rule in the West Coast V Geelong game.

Umpires did not notice the Cats didn't have players in the right positions. Hurn alerts umpire, who kills the play. No one knows what is going on. Game stops for 30 seconds or so. West Coast finally take a free kick from the middle, thump it long to their forward line and get a contested mark and I think Allen then kicked a goal. Pretty high price to pay.
 

[Willy]

I think a free kick is pretty reasonable penalty for breaking the rules. What do you suggest?

[Gracie]

I think a free kick is pretty reasonable penalty for breaking the rules. What do you suggest?

5 laps of the oval after training

[one-eyed]

Nick Vlastuin: New rule could help Tigers improve

Peter Ryan
The Age
5 March 2019

The new six-six-six rule could be an advantage for Richmond as they look to atone for last year's preliminary final loss to Collingwood, according to premiership defender Nick Vlastuin.

The Tigers showed their ability against Melbourne in Shepparton on Sunday to rebound quickly off half-back once they intercepted the ball, with Bachar Houli and Jayden Short using their speed to break the game open in the second and third quarters.

Nick Vlastuin likes one-on-one contests, which the six-six-six rule is expected to highlight.Credit:Jason South

Richmond had 16 running bounces compared to Melbourne's two and Vlastuin said the Tigers had the confidence and ability to turn defence into attack and they were also prepared to surge forward quickly from stoppages.

"This six-six-six might actually help us because we have got a lot of strong runners who can carry [the ball up] the ground," Vlastuin said.

The Tigers also have explosive midfielders Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin, Dion Prestia and Shane Edwards, who are likely to benefit from space the rule creates at centre bounces.

Champion Data has predicted that Richmond might be the team that needs to adjust their style of play the most under the new rule as the Tigers commonly set up two spare players behind the ball at centre bounces, which not only stopped the opposition from scoring but helped the Tigers surge the ball forward if they won first possession.

However Vlastuin said defenders also enjoyed the challenge of one-on-one contests and it made the game easier for players in some regards.

"I like the one-on-ones. It's when you are playing spare and you don't get to either contest ... that is when you feel like a goose," Vlastuin said.

"At least with one-on-one contests you are always kind of in it."

Richmond conceded the second fewest points last season and were the second most prolific scorers. The AFL hopes the new rule can help clubs score more.

The Tigers' defender said Richmond were still experimenting with what style of play to adopt under the new rules and he expected that to continue, with Sunday's game having thrown up some surprises.

"We're not really sure what it will look like at the end of the year," Vlastuin said.

"Maybe some coach will turn around and introduce something and everyone will be doing that."

Despite losing last year's preliminary final, the Tigers have dominated for most of the past two seasons, winning 37 of their past 49 games.

They also won their first JLT Community Series match against Melbourne - who also played in a preliminary final last year - on Sunday by 12 points.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/nick-vlastuin-new-rule-could-help-tigers-improve-20190305-p511ru.html

[Diocletian]

I think a free kick is pretty reasonable penalty for breaking the rules. What do you suggest?

For breaking a stupid rule - an Order of Australia for services to football....

[Slipper]

I think a free kick is pretty reasonable penalty for breaking the rules. What do you suggest?

My point merely was that it seems a harsh penalty (a goal from the chance to drive the ball deep into the forward line kept artifically open by keeping players in assigned positions) for a simple infraction.

Have you seen the footage I was referring to?

Sure, we have the centre square and an infringement there attracts a similar penalty, I get that and the fact that the centre square (or diamond as it orignally was) has helped football evolve into a more watchable game.

I just think it was a harsh penalty.

[Willy]

I think a free kick is pretty reasonable penalty for breaking the rules. What do you suggest?

My point merely was that it seems a harsh penalty (a goal from the chance to drive the ball deep into the forward line kept artifically open by keeping players in assigned positions) for a simple infraction.

Have you seen the footage I was referring to?

Sure, we have the centre square and an infringement there attracts a similar penalty, I get that and the fact that the centre square (or diamond as it orignally was) has helped football evolve into a more watchable game.

I just think it was a harsh penalty.

I take your point but to suggest that the penalty was a goal is a stretch. They still had to mark inside 50 then kick truly to get the goal. Not every free kick in the centre leads to a goal.

[one-eyed]

RETRO RUCKS

Michael Gleeson
The Age
12 March 2019

What the new rules look to have done is kill off the pseudo-ruck. It is doubtful Damien Hardwick would choose to use Shaun Grigg in the ruck again with the new rules allowing rucks to grab the ball out of the ruck without it being deemed prior opportunity, and the six-six-six rule opening space at centre bounces and making the ruck and onballers more damaging.

These two rules have made rucks more effective and with that the risk of not having a specialist ruckman to compete is too great. Most teams are now looking to use two rucks and to have them be able to rotate forward - how very retro.

Max Gawn might win the Brownlow this year with these new rules, but the query is what the Demons do with their other talls. As impressive as Braydon Preuss was in a couple of early practice matches, the Demons' best set up still looks to be Gawn, Tom McDonald and Sam Weideman.

Likewise at Richmond - and this one has not been tested in the pre-season because we haven't seen Tom Lynch yet - but what do the Tigers do for second ruck? They are unlikely to use Lynch, who is coming off a PCL injury. So who do they use as their second ruck without becoming too top heavy forward of the ball?

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/what-we-learnt-from-the-afl-pre-season-20190311-p513b6.html

[one-eyed]

What did everyone think about the new 6-6-6 rule? Did it affect the way we played?

[Tiger Khosh]

Little to no impact.

[Go Richo 12]

What did everyone think about the new 6-6-6 rule? Did it affect the way we played?

We will find out next week when Rance is unavailable. I reckon not having his leadership and direction will hurt us down there more so than his physical impact.

[mightytiges]

We were beaten in the centre clearances after 1/4 time. It didn't matter as we still racked up 60 inside 50s and outscored Carlton heavily from defensive midfield chains once we intercepted the ball. We can't rely on that however against the top sides as they will make it harder to break out and score from attacks starting in our defence.

[WilliamPowell]

What did everyone think about the new 6-6-6 rule? Did it affect the way we played?

Last night proved that like the new kick in rule it was a change for change sake.

[Tiger Khosh]

Even worse was the no runners being allowed.

Does the afl really think it looks better having guys hold up numbers up on the sideline to let players know who needs to come off. Also leaves players off for longer than they need to.

[mightytiges]

The stupidest thing tonight was the Geelong bench holding up a plain red board to tell their players it was red-time and late in the quarter. Ummm that's what the clock on the scoreboard is for fellows!


One thing about the 6-6-6 rule from the two games so far is it creates a couple of over the top out the back goals from a long clean centre clearance. The tall forwards push up under the incoming ball to let it get over the back and someone waits behind or runs past the pack to anticipate it. Nank got at least one of his goals last night from this.