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Re: Richmond vs Gold Coast @ Heritage Bank Stadium --- Opening Round, 2024
« Reply #105 on: March 10, 2024, 08:36:11 PM »
baker,
grimes
macca
ross
bolton
rioli
floss
young

3 tackles

i rest my case. Yze better wake the stuff up and instill some defensive  pressure in this group or he will finished as a coach
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Re: Richmond vs Gold Coast @ Heritage Bank Stadium --- Opening Round, 2024
« Reply #106 on: March 10, 2024, 09:01:58 PM »
"That was the most disappointing thing to come out of this game."

Kane Cornes on how Richmond's midfield, including the stars they 'sold the farm for', was well off the pace against the Suns.

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Re: Richmond vs Gold Coast @ Heritage Bank Stadium --- Opening Round, 2024
« Reply #107 on: March 10, 2024, 11:34:04 PM »
Whilst I don't disagree with Cornhead you have to realise the GCS midfield is mostly high picks. Swallow 1 albeit old, Rowell 1, Anderson 2, Flanders 11, Powell 19, Fiorini 20, Miller 29.

Even the King 6 and Lukosius 2 combo is high picks.

We gave 12+19 for Taranto who had a AA year IMO for 2023 and those picks slid down to 14+22 which I can live with.

Paying 31 + 1st '23 for Hopper was clearly a mistake with those picks becoming 34 and 8.

The only other year besides 23 that we've had a genuinely good pick was 21 with Gibcus and aside from injuries he's looked good so far.

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Re: Richmond vs Gold Coast @ Heritage Bank Stadium --- Opening Round, 2024
« Reply #108 on: March 10, 2024, 11:36:39 PM »
Trading for Taranto and Hopper has been a monumental stuff up. Set us back 2 years in our rebuild.

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Re: Richmond vs Gold Coast @ Heritage Bank Stadium --- Opening Round, 2024
« Reply #109 on: March 11, 2024, 10:29:07 AM »
2 first round picks for either one was stupid both struggle to hit a target no player is worth let alone one if they can't do the basics in footy.

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Re: Richmond vs Gold Coast @ Heritage Bank Stadium --- Opening Round, 2024
« Reply #110 on: March 11, 2024, 10:52:20 AM »
i can accept one as he has delivered last year, but 2 of them to chase a flag that was really a one in 50 shot was just plain stupid. Dusty is not the same player and was never going to win us another flag.

has set us back a few years for sure. All we managed to do is copy the hawthorn model post success. It didnt work then chasing o'meara mitchell and it wont here.

Hopper should be offloaded IMO.

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Re: Richmond vs Gold Coast @ Heritage Bank Stadium --- Opening Round, 2024
« Reply #111 on: March 11, 2024, 11:25:56 AM »
Dunno what you're all complaining about - we're in the 8!

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Re: Richmond vs Gold Coast @ Heritage Bank Stadium --- Opening Round, 2024
« Reply #112 on: March 11, 2024, 02:19:58 PM »
i can accept one as he has delivered last year, but 2 of them to chase a flag that was really a one in 50 shot was just plain stupid. Dusty is not the same player and was never going to win us another flag.

has set us back a few years for sure. All we managed to do is copy the hawthorn model post success. It didnt work then chasing o'meara mitchell and it wont here.

Hopper should be offloaded IMO.



Additionally if we didn't trade then in then the pick we gave for Hopper would probably have been top 5 minimum lol

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Re: Richmond vs Gold Coast @ Heritage Bank Stadium --- Opening Round, 2024
« Reply #113 on: March 11, 2024, 03:26:51 PM »
It was a high price to pay, probably driven by a coach who had already checked out, but can you imagine our midfield without these two  :-\

A cooked Prestia, 6 touches Dow...
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Re: Richmond vs Gold Coast @ Heritage Bank Stadium --- Opening Round, 2024
« Reply #114 on: March 11, 2024, 03:52:31 PM »
It was a high price to pay, probably driven by a coach who had already checked out, but can you imagine our midfield without these two  :-\

A cooked Prestia, 6 touches Dow...

so with him we may finish bottom 4 and without him we may end up bottom 4? same poo.

we could have got a bloke like mitchell with a later pick who could do the same job as hopper if not better, and we keep our top picks.

i think hopper is a dime a dozen type of footballer at this stage and his stats prove it.

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Re: Richmond vs Gold Coast @ Heritage Bank Stadium --- Opening Round, 2024
« Reply #115 on: March 11, 2024, 05:16:24 PM »
Report Card

Ben Cotton, Jack Jovanovski and Ben Waterworth
Fox Sports
March 11th


RICHMOND

Many pundits predicted a long season for Richmond — and perhaps Saturday’s loss to the Suns provided the footy world with a glimpse as to why commentators have been thinking like that. Outside of the third quarter — in which Richmond kicked 6.2 to 0.3 — the Tigers were comprehensively outplayed by the Suns, going down by 39 points. New coach Adem Yze said despite the display early, he was proud of how his team responded in the second half. But the reality is the Tigers suffered the biggest loss of Opening Round.

In the votes

Jacob Hopper booted two goals from 23 disposals in a solid hit-out in the midfield. Young defender Josh Gibcus did his best under pressure with eight intercepts, with Nick Vlastuin also clean with his intercepting and disposal from half-back. Shai Bolton’s three goals were crucial, while Seth Campbell showed promise with two goals.

Room for improvement

The Tigers looked shell-shocked in the first half as the Suns piled on 11 unanswered goals to lead by a game high 67 points late in the second quarter. As Yze said post-game, the Tigers were “all over the shop in the first half on all three phases” after conceding 11 goals to two. They finished the game well down in contested possessions (-26), clearances (-13) and inside 50s (-20), while they also had 14 less scoring shots. Samson Ryan didn’t fire a shot, subbed out with two disposals to his name, while recruit Jacob Koschitzke went scoreless from four touches and Thomson Dow finished with only six disposals after a much-hyped summer. Tim Taranto was also well down on his lofty standards, finishing with 15 disposals.

Grade

C-

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2024-opening-round-report-card-highlights-grades-analysis-every-club-reviewed-best-and-worst-players-video-stats/news-story/34df43fefa2259ae3a35aa7685d20f5e

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Re: Richmond vs Gold Coast @ Heritage Bank Stadium --- Opening Round, 2024
« Reply #116 on: March 11, 2024, 05:17:22 PM »
Coaches' votes (Yze & Hardwick)

Gold Coast v Richmond

10 - Matt Rowell (GCFC)
8 - Wil Powell (GCFC)
3 - Touk Miller (GCFC)
3 - Jarrod Witts (GCFC)
2 - Ben King (GCFC)
2 - Sam Flanders (GCFC)|
1 - Noah Anderson (GCFC)
1 - Sam Collins (GCFC)

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1085508/coaches-votes-or-carlton-blues-hero-harry-mckay-gold-coast-suns-bull-matt-rowell-collect-perfect-10s

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Re: Richmond vs Gold Coast @ Heritage Bank Stadium --- Opening Round, 2024
« Reply #117 on: March 11, 2024, 05:27:29 PM »


What they got right

Showed some sort of fight

After a dreadful first half, the Tigers at least showed a bit of fight in the second half for just over a quarter.

Adem Yze must have had some choice words at the main break because his side was remarkably different in the third term when piling on six goals to none.

Some players were thrown around and had an impact, namely Noah Balta who went into the ruck and up around the ball, and Jack Ross who had an immediate impact after coming on as the sub.

It was a poor day but at least there were some tiny positives to hold onto.

Debutant Seth

A quick nod to rookie draftee Seth Campbell who played well on debut.

He finished with two goals, which could have been three, and looked comfortable at the level.

It was a bad day for the Tigers but they would have been happy to see a rookie selection go well.

What they got wrong

Abysmal beginning

Apart from Shai Bolton’s opening goal, the fist half was abysmal.

Richmond conceded 11 straight goals from the five-minute mark to half-time, appearing helpless at stages.

It all started in the middle where they were utterly slaughtered from the very start.

Annihilated at stoppage and clearance

In the first half, Richmond’s starting midfield of Tim Taranto, Dion Prestia and Jacob Hopper combined for 32 disposals and eight clearances.

Gold Coast trio Matt Rowell, Touk Miller and Noah Anderson came together for 49 disposals and 17 clearances. This is where the game was won and lost.

Rowell was able to do as he pleased to finish with a massive 20 clearances, the Tigers unable to get anywhere near his maniacal attack on the ball.

It was a colossal smacking in the middle despite Sam Naismith holding his own in the ruck against Jarrod Witts.

As Yze said, they were “all over the shop” in the first half.

Ill-disciplined act

The Tigers shot themselves in the foot when the game was potentially there to be won.

Ill-discipline, which plagued the team during the latter years of Damien Hardwick’s reign, reared its ugly head when former captain Dylan Grimes let his ego creep in by felling Tom Berry off the ball after an inexplicable kick on the full under no pressure.

If they had avoided the ensuing goal and managed to haul the margin in below 20 points, who knows what would have happened.

But they never got that chance due to Grimes’ indiscretion before a somewhat questionable umpiring decision for a deliberate rushed behind against Nathan Broad.

However, the damage had well and truly already been done earlier.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/03/11/what-they-got-right-and-wrong-each-clubs-wins-and-woes-from-opening-round/

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Re: Richmond vs Gold Coast @ Heritage Bank Stadium --- Opening Round, 2024
« Reply #118 on: March 11, 2024, 06:10:37 PM »
It deserves to be mentioned that Tom Berry's DIVE when touched by Dylan Grimes was of world standard ...     ::)
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