2009 list structure

[one-eyed]

Time for an update me thinks please OE - 

Done Bents  .

Check the updated first post in this thread.

[Judge Roughneck]

Certainly wouldn't have Joel Bowden anywhere near the backline for 2009

I would not have him anywhere near the best XXII. I cannot see where he is going to fit in. A White or Moton type is going to have to miss out. I would like to see Connors play 18+ games 09. Doubtful if Johnson & Bowden play most games.

I would expect the team to look something like:

Moore - Thursfeild - McGaune
Newman - Rance - McMahon
Richo - Coughlan - Deledio
Cousins - Riewoldt - Tambling
Brown - Hughes - Cotchin
Simmonds - Tuck - Foley

Pattison
Johnson
Bowden
Morton / White ?


 * Schultz / Rance for CHB - Schultz / Hughes for FB - Schultz / McGaune for BP ??
 * Vickery 3rd choice ruckman to hopfully pressure Hughes / Pattison for spot.
 * 2nd teir mids fighting for deapth midfielder and flanks; (Cogs / Johnson / Bowden / bench spots etc.);
        - Morton, White, Connors, Thomson, Edwards / Hislop / Polo / Raines / Jackson.

It will be intersting to see how our backline looks. Bowden / McMahon / Schultz vs. Rance / Connors / Tambling

[Judge Roughneck]

Time for an update me thinks please OE - 

Done Bents  .

Check the updated first post in this thread.

 

We'll the list looks in fairly healthy state these days I think.

If Coughlan can come back or/and Cousins can play two or three years we might plug that older gap in the list (26yoa-30) abit better than in the past.

How does 26 players under 22 yoa compare to other AFL lists ?

[mightytiges]

How does 26 players under 22 yoa compare to other AFL lists ?

Too much work to figure it out fully lol but you would reckon the Eagles, Bombers, Blues, Pies and Port would also have a few U22s on their list too off the top of your head. I think we still have more U23s than those sides. We had the most this year I believe. Melbourne will probably end up with the most now they are going down the youth path. Crows, Saints and Swans you'd think would have lists with the least youngsters (?).

[Judge Roughneck]

How does 26 players under 22 yoa compare to other AFL lists ?

Too much work to figure it out fully lol

http://www.footywire.com/

[tigersalive]

How does 26 players under 22 yoa compare to other AFL lists ?

Too much work to figure it out fully lol

http://www.footywire.com/

Off you go then, if you're the one interested. 

[bojangles17]

what I like about our structure from 2009 is that we have some more size to complement our fleet of GF sprinters...If Thmo and Hislop click and you know who then we will really start to look dangerous....We were very much exposed in this area in 2008 ultimately costing us a place in the finals when the heat was on EG Dogs, Saints games 

[mightytiges]

How does 26 players under 22 yoa compare to other AFL lists ?

Too much work to figure it out fully lol

http://www.footywire.com/

We're pretty much around the mean now as far as U23s (including rookies):

Hawthorn      33
Carlton          32
Brisbane        31
West Coast     31
Essendon       30
Melbourne      30
North Melb     29
Richmond      28
Adelaide        28
Collingwood   28
Sydney          28
Bulldogs        27
Port Adel       27
St Kilda         26
Fremantle      22
Geelong         22

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/tp-richmond-tigers?sby=9&year=2009

[one-eyed]

The other component of list structure is experience (games played). We're now getting a young group that have either played or will pass 50 games in 2009.......


251+:   Richo (276), Bowden (253)

201-250: Cousins (238 ), Johnson (220), Brown (206)

151-200: Simmonds (179)

101-150: McMahon (136), Newman (133), Pettifer (109), Polak (106)

51-99: Tuck (91), Deledio (84), Coughlan (83), Tambling (75), Foley (70), Schulz (67), Pattison (53), Raines (53)

21-49: Jackson (47), Moore (46), Thursfield (40), White (38 ), King (33), Edwards (32), McGuane (32), Polo (31), Morton (29), Thomson (28 ), Riewoldt (26)

1-20: Hughes (16), Cotchin (15), JON (9), Connors (8 ), Hislop (7), Graham (2)

0: Collins, Post, Putt, Rance, Vickery, Browne#, Gilligan#, Gourdis#, Nahas#, Silvester#

[tiogar]

Interesting thread. Well done on the work involved.

you look at that crucial 50 to 99 game group and realise it is time Tambling and Schulz really stepped forward. They really need to stake a claim as first 18 men.

[mightytiges]

It still shows we are a couple of years away in terms of the young guys coming through. When you take away Polak and Petts who won't be apart of 2009 due to injury we only have 3 guys in the 100-200 game experience bracket. In 2-3 years time we'll have the large group below hitting their early-mid 20s with 100+ games under their belt at the same time. Provided there's enough class in that group it should sustain us for a few years up the top end of the ladder for a shot at the flag. This year is more one last shot (maybe 2010 also if Richo, Simmo, Browny and Cuz's bodies can hold up) at finals for the 30+ y.o. 200+ gamers.

[yellowandback]

If we avoid injury to our starting 22, we should have about a dozen players passing the 100+ games mark this year with another 8 passing the 50+ games mark.

Thats enough experience to play finals, now for the talent and player development piece.

[Judge Roughneck]

If we avoid injury to our starting 22, we should have about a dozen players passing the 100+ games mark this year with another 8 passing the 50+ games mark

Newman - Thursfeild - McGaune
Moore - Rance - Tambling
Cotchin - Deledio - Cousins
Riewoldt - Richo - Brown
Morton - Hughes - Connors
Simmonds - Coughlan - Foley

Tuck
McMahon
Pattison/Schulz/
Edwards/Bowden/Raines

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It is the midfeild that is comming toward 100+ games this season - what'd you would expect to be at there prime. Lids, Cogs, Tuck, Foley, Tambling. Chuck in Cotch/Cuz as the book end and the kids White, Morton, Edwards, Jacko, Thomson, Raines are the next level.

Should start winning games now.

[richmondrules]

151-200: Simmonds (179)

101-150: McMahon (136), Newman (133), Pettifer (109), Polak (106)

Too few in that 100-200 game bracket. Considering Pettifer and Polak are both coming back from injury and unlikely to play soon (if ever) you can see the gaping hole we have in that range of experience which should be the engine for the team.

If anyone wants to know why we lose winnable games and put in some inconsistent performances then here's your answer.

2011 and onward is looking pretty good though. Hmmm. Wonder which coach said that, and was ridiculed, at the beginning of 2007? ... TW knows exactly where we stand.

[Gracie]

151-200: Simmonds (179)

101-150: McMahon (136), Newman (133), Pettifer (109), Polak (106)

Too few in that 100-200 game bracket. Considering Pettifer and Polak are both coming back from injury and unlikely to play soon (if ever) you can see the gaping hole we have in that range of experience which should be the engine for the team.

If anyone wants to know why we lose winnable games and put in some inconsistent performances then here's your answer.

2011 and onward is looking pretty good though. Hmmm. Wonder which coach said that, and was ridiculed, at the beginning of 2007? ... TW knows exactly where we stand.

There is nothing set in stone that you need 15 guys over 100 games to be able to win the premiership. It obviously helps but just because you only have two over 150 games doesn't mean you cant do it.

The losing winnable games and inconsistency will work in our favour quicker than expected. The trials of 2007 have made sure none of our players from that time are under any false illusions of where they are at.

The youthful competitiveness for spots is in our favour. With the draw we have a top 4 finish is possible. Get to the top 4 you have a 50/50 chance of making the Grand Final. Make the Grand Final anything can happen

dare to dream