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« Reply #1215 on: August 09, 2010, 10:19:33 PM »
Here's Mark Robinson's The Tackle’s list from those under the greatest prssure to the least

4. Ben Cousins
Not the man him it smacked of a farewell game. I dare say if there is one, Cousins will simply smile and say he had fun.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tackle

maybe in public but he will be gutted in private.

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« Reply #1216 on: August 10, 2010, 12:06:18 PM »
Ben Cousins rules out Gold Coast

    * Finn Bradshaw
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    * August 10, 2010



BEN Cousins has ruled out seeking a contract with the Gold Coast if Richmond axes him at the end of this year.

Cousins is out of contract at the end of this season, and while the former Brownlow Medallist is keen to play on, the Tigers have been quiet about re-signing him.

The former Eagle has been among the Tigers' best in recent weeks, but the club may want to clear room on the list for younger players.

The Gold Coast has not said it was interested in Cousins, but may have room for him if it doesn't land other higher profile veterans such as Geelong's Gary Ablett.

Cousins said he was satisfied with his career, even if it finished this year, and "probably" wouldn't look for a contract with the Gold Coast.

"I have really enjoyed my time at Richmond and I think it has been about leaving the game on my own terms. If I get the opportunity to do that whether it is the end of this year or the end of next year, I will be satisfied with what I have achieved in footy and look forward to the next chapter in my life," he told radio station Nova 100 this morning.

More than 90 per cent of voters in a recent Herald Sun poll recently said they wanted to play on next year, but Cousins said he could see why the club may not agree.

“It is up to the footy club what happens from here. I have to sit down at the end of the year, it is a list management decision. It is a developing side but we have some young guys that are improving rapidly and where they will be in the next 12 months is probably a fair bit further down the track than where they are now. It is not a decision just about me it has an impact right across the list. If I am not there I am sure there will be a young blokes that can do the job for me," Cousins said.

He said he was focussed on enjoying the Tigers' remaining games this year, in case they are his last at AFL level.

“I think I am playing OK. I am just trying to squeeze every bit out of my footy at the moment. I am not sure how long it will last for, so if it finishes this year I want to finish on a good note. I may get the opportunity to play on next year but not dissimilar to last I am playing this year as if it is my last. I want to go out on a good note," he said.

They discuss the Herald Sun had a poll whether Ben Cousins should continue on next year and how over 90% of the public wanted Ben to continue to play. Ben said,

Would you consider the Gold Coast? Ben said, “Probably not,

Are you saying you couldn’t be bothered learning the words to another song? Ben said, “yeah well you never know…Especially after coming from the song that we’ve got now, very hard to beat.”

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ben-cousins-rules-out-gold-coast/story-e6frf9jf-1225903323437

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« Reply #1217 on: August 11, 2010, 04:18:18 AM »
Ben comes clean for uni study
JAKE NIALL
August 11, 2010

 
IN A frank interview for a soon-to-be-published international academic journal, Ben Cousins has told a pair of Melbourne researchers how he had been treated more positively when receiving drug treatment in the US than in Australia.

Cousins has contrasted how Americans were willing to ''high five'' him during his stay in a drug and alcohol treatment centre with an Australian environment in which his addiction was ''looked down upon'' by society. But the researchers said that the Brownlow medallist did not ''whinge'' about his lot and was simply explaining how he viewed his situation.

Cousins, whose future with Richmond is yet to be settled, was interviewed by Monash University academics Dr Kate Seear and Dr Suzanne Fraser for an article that will be published later this year in British-based social science/public health journal Critical Public Health.

The article, which is the second on Cousins by the pair (the first was not based on interview), is expected to be published in September or October. The interview took place late last year.

Cousins also told the academics, who are from the Department of Political and Social Inquiry at Monash:

■To deny that he had taken drugs was worse than actually taking them.

■He drew a link between his disciplined training regime and his propensity to party - though he did not necessarily ''reward'' himself for effort.

''He sort of said that the partying side is part and parcel of the ability to discipline yourself to go hard and train hard for weeks on end, and I think he said at one point he went for a month without putting butter on his toast and then he has a kind of [response] to that … control by having a big kind of party, party night or whatever,'' said Fraser, who has interviewed hundreds of drug users in Sydney and Melbourne.

''It's the prospect of being able to do something different that gets him through the training. It's the kind other side of self-denial. We talked about the fact that taking drugs or partying's not the opposite of self-discipline and focus. For some people, some people who are supremely successful, it can be part of it.''

■That he considered himself an addict - a self-assessment they believed was genuine. ''We were convinced that he genuinely saw himself as an addict. We were very interested in that,'' Fraser said.

Fraser said of Cousins's American experience: ''He talked to us about going to the US and the different treatment of the idea of addiction over there and … finding himself sort of regularly congratulated and lauded as a recovering addict and how that was kind of so different from in Australia where you're just looked down upon.

''So he's sort of drawing a contrast between a culture that rewards admitting addiction and treating it, and a culture that simply wants to kind of discard the addict in his view. He said, 'you walk out and everyone's giving you high fives'.''

Cousins was twice admitted to a drug treatment centre in Malibu, California, during 2007. The article examines Cousins's treatment by media and public. Seear said there had been ''a series of mixed messages about who Cousins is, what drug addiction or drug use is, [and] how he is expected to behave''.

''Certainly a substantial proportion of the media coverage, I would say, in the early days … spoke about him being insufficiently contrite and then not genuinely remorseful for his behaviour and … quite a bit of speculation about the extent to which he really believed himself to be an addict or whether that was a strategic deployment of the term in order to garner favour or whatever.''

Fraser doubted Cousins saw himself as having a disease. ''He clearly, clearly had a sense of himself as being physically fit and strong and not as harmed by his other activities, including taking drugs. So in a way I find it hard to imagine him going so far as [to say] he had a disease.

''The paper in part talks about his sense of relief, the kind of opening up the issue, because in his mind to proceed as though drug taking was something he never did was much more inauthentic experience than taking drugs. Not being able to to be honest and say, 'yes, I'm a fantastic sportsman and sometimes I party and take drugs', to deny those things went together in his life he said felt like a lie.

''We found interesting … what he was pointing to was that it's more the social opprobrium that forces people to deny what is quite a common thing.''

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/ben-comes-clean-for-uni-study-20100810-11y88.html

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« Reply #1218 on: August 11, 2010, 08:13:40 AM »
"Fraser said of Cousins's American experience: ''He talked to us about going to the US and the different treatment of the idea of addiction over there and … finding himself sort of regularly congratulated and lauded as a recovering addict and how that was kind of so different from in Australia where you're just looked down upon.

''So he's sort of drawing a contrast between a culture that rewards admitting addiction and treating it, and a culture that simply wants to kind of discard the addict in his view."

Reading the footy forums about you can see where he is coming from with this.
No real surprise that they draw this conclusion, really;

"what he was pointing to was that it's more the social opprobrium that forces people to deny what is quite a common thing.''
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Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are my ways higher than your ways,
And my thoughts than your thoughts."

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« Reply #1219 on: August 14, 2010, 03:17:34 PM »
3aw saying Cuz's future will be known at least internally within the RFC on Monday.

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« Reply #1220 on: August 14, 2010, 03:25:53 PM »
If he's broken his leg - gawn

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« Reply #1221 on: August 14, 2010, 03:40:23 PM »
Cuz is back out there. Unless he's thinking this is it anyway so might as well have a jab and get back out there he may not have a crack in the leg.

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« Reply #1222 on: August 14, 2010, 03:48:11 PM »
Cuz hobbling around so it may actually be more serious  :(. A sad way to end such a positive 2nd half of the season if so. If it's a crack in the leg then yep Bents the injury has made the decision easy for the club.
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« Reply #1223 on: August 14, 2010, 04:10:18 PM »
Cuz has got through 26 minutes which isn't bad. Cuz pushed the doc away but he's come off and they've put a protective pad around the leg where he got the knock according to 3aw.
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« Reply #1224 on: August 14, 2010, 05:35:23 PM »
Any idea Of the extent of his leg injury he looked in a lot of pain when he first came off.
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« Reply #1225 on: August 14, 2010, 05:52:24 PM »
Any idea Of the extent of his leg injury he looked in a lot of pain when he first came off.
Dimma said after the game that it's nothing serious. Cuz just copped a kick to the calf. Let's hope so  :pray.

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« Reply #1226 on: August 14, 2010, 08:41:49 PM »
3aw saying Cuz's future will be known at least internally within the RFC on Monday.
Jon Ralph just said again a meeting is on Monday about Cousins' future and a decision will be known mid-week. The media have Cuz retiring but Hardwick said the decision will be purely a football-based decision.

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« Reply #1227 on: August 14, 2010, 09:01:48 PM »
Decision on Cousins' future due next week
By Jason Phelan
Sat 14 August, 2010



A LEG injury to Richmond's Ben Cousins is not season-threatening Tigers coach Damien Hardwick insisted after his side went down to Carlton by 89 points at the MCG on Saturday.

Cousins hobbled to the bench grimacing in pain after a marking contest in the third quarter, but Hardwick reported he had just copped a knock to his left calf.

Cousins should be available to play St Kilda with his future beyond the remaining two matches of the season to be decided next week.

“We’ll meet with him on Monday and make an informed decision later in the week whenever that may be,” Hardwick said of Cousins’ playing future.

“There are a number of factors that come into it. We’ll sit down with our recruiting staff, our list management and decide how many draft picks we need to have, decide what our talent base is and make an informed decision [on Cousins] from there.”

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/100349/default.aspx

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« Reply #1228 on: August 14, 2010, 09:53:21 PM »
If it's purely football based then he has to play on
At this stage he's still easily in our Top 10 players and arguably our Top 5

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« Reply #1229 on: August 14, 2010, 09:54:29 PM »
what's to stuffin decide,seriously?

Do u keep the best gut runner,grand final star,brownlow medalist who clearly has another season in him or do u keep the hislops,thomsens,mcmahons,polos,etc.

This is bull poo.