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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #135 on: October 07, 2022, 11:46:02 AM »
From Barrett's Sliding Doors column:



IF ...
you're thinking it will be difficult to secure Jacob Hopper after coughing up picks 12 and 19 for Tim Taranto ...

THEN ...
yes, it will be difficult. But it will get done by trade period deadline on Wednesday night. Good clubs get the big deals done.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/854531/if-horne-francis-wants-out-of-north-quick-smart-then

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #136 on: October 07, 2022, 11:48:31 AM »
An extra 100ish points hardly worth it.

No doubt the giants won’t be using all of those picks - they don’t have the list spots available to even do so. Think I read somewhere that there’s an afl rule that clubs can’t stockpile draft picks that they can’t even use.

I suspect the giants will package up those picks in the teens to try and get another top10 pick or there’s even talk they want another top5 pick to get Cadman. Would a north, west coast, bombers, suns (from Adelaide) consider giving up their top5 for 3 or even 4 of the giants picks in the teens?

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #137 on: October 07, 2022, 12:12:17 PM »
An extra 100ish points hardly worth it.

No doubt the giants won’t be using all of those picks - they don’t have the list spots available to even do so. Think I read somewhere that there’s an afl rule that clubs can’t stockpile draft picks that they can’t even use.
Brisbane has a lot to do though. They need a stack of points for both Father-Sons Ashcroft & Fletcher, picks to trade in Dunkley, and they'll also need a late pick for Gunston. It's likely they will need to go into points deficit, so any extra points would be worthwhile IMO.

I suspect the giants will package up those picks in the teens to try and get another top10 pick or there’s even talk they want another top5 pick to get Cadman. Would a north, west coast, bombers, suns (from Adelaide) consider giving up their top5 for 3 or even 4 of the giants picks in the teens?
Cadman is a generational key forward and will be the first live pick (ignoring Ashcroft). GWS aren't going to get him. If Norf stupidly trade away pick 1 or pass on Cadman then they might as well be kicked out of the comp. It would be the most incompetent recruiting decision ever made.
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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #138 on: October 07, 2022, 12:37:19 PM »
"Soldo doing a medical at the Giants while in Canberra shows that the Giants are keen to have him apart of the deal."

- @RileyBev on Ivan Soldo being courted by GWS

https://twitter.com/traderadio/status/1578191225550536705

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #139 on: October 07, 2022, 01:02:50 PM »
"Soldo doing a medical at the Giants while in Canberra shows that the Giants are keen to have him apart of the deal."

- @RileyBev on Ivan Soldo being courted by GWS

https://twitter.com/traderadio/status/1578191225550536705
Here's the audio [From 10:10 min mark:[/i]

https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/jason-horne-francis-and-how-the-deal-gets-done-will/id820692706?i=1000581866554


Beveridge also said Soldo moving could be done as part of the Hopper deal or separately aiding Richmond in getting more picks to get the Hopper deal done. Giants want more than a Future 1st and pick 31.

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #140 on: October 07, 2022, 01:24:05 PM »
An extra 100ish points hardly worth it.

No doubt the giants won’t be using all of those picks - they don’t have the list spots available to even do so. Think I read somewhere that there’s an afl rule that clubs can’t stockpile draft picks that they can’t even use.
Brisbane has a lot to do though. They need a stack of points for both Father-Sons Ashcroft & Fletcher, picks to trade in Dunkley, and they'll also need a late pick for Gunston. It's likely they will need to go into points deficit, so any extra points would be worthwhile IMO.

I suspect the giants will package up those picks in the teens to try and get another top10 pick or there’s even talk they want another top5 pick to get Cadman. Would a north, west coast, bombers, suns (from Adelaide) consider giving up their top5 for 3 or even 4 of the giants picks in the teens?
Cadman is a generational key forward and will be the first live pick (ignoring Ashcroft). GWS aren't going to get him. If Norf stupidly trade away pick 1 or pass on Cadman then they might as well be kicked out of the comp. It would be the most incompetent recruiting decision ever made.

I think twomey has cadman going pick 4 or 5 although he could have just been listing his top 5 in no particular order.

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #141 on: October 07, 2022, 02:43:15 PM »
Looks like the Hopper trade is heading into the last week

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #142 on: October 07, 2022, 03:17:49 PM »
Sam Edmund's latest on the Hopper to Richmond deal and how it's playing out.

https://twitter.com/1116sen/status/1578234882459070465


Not sure how this is the "latest" when Edmund is just repeating what's been discussed over the past 48 hours :huh3.

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #143 on: October 07, 2022, 04:01:14 PM »
An extra 100ish points hardly worth it.

No doubt the giants won’t be using all of those picks - they don’t have the list spots available to even do so. Think I read somewhere that there’s an afl rule that clubs can’t stockpile draft picks that they can’t even use.
Brisbane has a lot to do though. They need a stack of points for both Father-Sons Ashcroft & Fletcher, picks to trade in Dunkley, and they'll also need a late pick for Gunston. It's likely they will need to go into points deficit, so any extra points would be worthwhile IMO.

I suspect the giants will package up those picks in the teens to try and get another top10 pick or there’s even talk they want another top5 pick to get Cadman. Would a north, west coast, bombers, suns (from Adelaide) consider giving up their top5 for 3 or even 4 of the giants picks in the teens?
Cadman is a generational key forward and will be the first live pick (ignoring Ashcroft). GWS aren't going to get him. If Norf stupidly trade away pick 1 or pass on Cadman then they might as well be kicked out of the comp. It would be the most incompetent recruiting decision ever made.

I think twomey has cadman going pick 4 or 5 although he could have just been listing his top 5 in no particular order.
You're right that Twomey does have Cadman at 5 but if what Twomey has was the actual draft then GWS wouldn't be bothering trying to trade up to pick 1. IMO, by draft night, Cadman will be #1 or #2 (if the bid for Ashcroft is first). Generational KPFs are harder to find than mids (albeit quality ones), plus Norf need a gun KPF with Larkey currently their only tall forward target.
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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #144 on: October 07, 2022, 07:25:58 PM »
Blair Hartley sighted today by Mitch Cleary on 7news.


"The Tigers to spend the weekend juggling talks over Giant Jacob Hopper."


https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1578291695342743553

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #145 on: October 07, 2022, 08:01:00 PM »
Blair Hartley sighted today by Mitch Cleary on 7news.


"The Tigers to spend the weekend juggling talks over Giant Jacob Hopper."


https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1578291695342743553
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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #146 on: October 08, 2022, 03:41:46 AM »
Blair Hartley sighted today by Mitch Cleary on 7news.


"The Tigers to spend the weekend juggling talks over Giant Jacob Hopper."


https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1578291695342743553
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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #148 on: October 08, 2022, 06:16:28 PM »
Soldo, 31, next year's first for hopper 44, 61 and 63. It's done. Just waiting on paperwork lodgement

https://twitter.com/TigerTuff9/status/1578269692644720641

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #149 on: October 08, 2022, 10:13:17 PM »
Soldo, 31, next year's first for hopper 44, 61 and 63. It's done. Just waiting on paperwork lodgement

https://twitter.com/TigerTuff9/status/1578269692644720641

Good deal imo.

Just need to grab a depth ruck